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Nice to see that Charlie Walters knew what he was writing about.
 

Minnesota Rivals rank #1 Olson and now #3 Westerhaus verbally in the fold. Farrow #2?? Not sure where the kid from Edina is listed but not in the top 5 at this point.
 




Bayfieldgopher said:
Minnesota Rivals rank #1 Olson and now #3 Westerhaus verbally in the fold. Farrow #2?? Not sure where the kid from Edina is listed but not in the top 5 at this point.
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Rivals doesn't even list Minnesota among any of Farrow's suitors. I hope this means Brewster pulled Farrow's offer and stopped recruiting him after he committed-decommitted.
 





Here's some YouTube.

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"The current plan is for Westerhaus to line up on offense, but he will do whatever it takes to help the team. "Right now it looks like I am going to be a tight end and I am really happy with that. They have some very creative uses for the tight end in their offense. If they need me to play linebacker or anywhere else I am ready to do that as well. I will lineup anywhere I can help the team win. I really don't care what I do as long as I am doing what is best for my team."
 

Is Westerhaus a Gopher commit? I could not tell because there are only 3 other threads about it. I don't believe it until there are 5 different threads about something
 

Time to be a naysayer...
Westerhaus has an impressive list of schools that are after him, I'm glad he committed.

That said, does it feel like this class is shaping up to be extremely mediocre? We have a ton of 2-star type talent and there doesn't seem to be any kid even close to blue-chip caliber who has the slightest interest in becoming a Gopher.

I know Blue Chips don't mean championships, but what is the problem this year?
 



Tommy Olson and Kyle McAvoy, are both rated by ESPN as just below 4 star, with Matt LaCosse not far behind them. Shortell being a big athelete, should be a 4 star, but not being projected against a specific position hurts him. Crawford-Tufts will be a high 3 star before the ratings are done. We have at least three ratings adjustments before signing day. those players we identifyed as flying below the radar, will all be reevaluated by then. I expect to see a lot of upward movement in our comminments ratings by then.
 

I'm not worried, seems as if the staff is going after specific types of players that fit the system, not just the ones who are highly recruited who may not fit the system quite as well. I think it is a rather solid class thus far and from what I've been reading, we are in on a few highly recruited kids as well.
 

I think Brewster is going after a specific type of athlete this year. He doesn't have a great sell to the high end athlete and so he's going after solid kids who will be solid depth and high contributors as they mature. It's a wise move. This is opposed to his other option of taking high risk kids or underperformers with the proper measureables.

It's the right approach for this phase of the recruiting cycle. Brewster knows recruiting. And for you naysayers who think he's settling, he could do that later, these kids are targeted.
 

Schnoodler said:
I think Brewster is going after a specific type of athlete this year. He doesn't have a great sell to the high end athlete and so he's going after solid kids who will be solid depth and high contributors as they mature. It's a wise move. This is opposed to his other option of taking high risk kids or underperformers with the proper measureables.

It's the right approach for this phase of the recruiting cycle. Brewster knows recruiting. And for you naysayers who think he's settling, he could do that later, these kids are targeted.
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+1 I like to use the term program kids, they spend two or three years developing, and then contribute for two years. It kids like that that give programs the reputation for never rebuilding just reloading. A perfect example is Tripplet.
 

nsmike said:
+1 I like to use the term program kids, they spend two or three years developing, and then contribute for two years. It kids like that that give programs the reputation for never rebuilding just reloading. A perfect example is Tripplet.
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Tripplet sucked until his last year. Tackling on special teams does not count as a contribution, you can use your stud players on special teams and sprinkle in some walk on scrubs.
 

bankonit said:
Tripplet sucked until his last year. Tackling on special teams does not count as a contribution, you can use your stud players on special teams and sprinkle in some walk on scrubs.
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Which studs? I can only assume you are referring to 4+ star studs, since anything less than that should not even see the field.

Does this sound familiar? "When walk-ons are on the field I feel cheated about a less than acceptable talent being on the field over a kid who is going to help us win. Walk-ons should be tackling dummies and water boys, nothing more or your program is seriously lacking. How many walk-ons does Alabama have starting?"

So which way to you want it? No walk ons see the field because they should only be tackling dummies and water boys? Or can they "contribute" because they are serving an important need on special teams?

Get your tirades straight.
 

bankonit said:
Tripplet sucked until his last year. Tackling on special teams does not count as a contribution, you can use your stud players on special teams and sprinkle in some walk on scrubs.
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He's wasn't much of a factor until last year but "he sucked"? Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech has made a good living on Special Teams play, and any coach who's given-up a touchdown on a kick-off return would also vehemently disagree.

I know when it came to Weber your hyperbole is almost unmatched but this stuff?

You might be the worst, most ignorant and arrogant poster in the history of mankind! That goes back to peasants writing on the pyramid at Giza!

You're right, it might not be even-handed but it is fun!:)
 

And here I thought tackling on special teams was a contribution. What a mistake I made, siding with every coach who has ever lived. I didn't know it tackling on special teams wasn't important - far better to let the return man keep running and running!

Seriously, you can't neglect special teams, you will pay dearly for that.
 

bankonit said:
Tripplet sucked until his last year. Tackling on special teams does not count as a contribution, you can use your stud players on special teams and sprinkle in some walk on scrubs.
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Say what?

You are simply the biggest moron on this board.
 

People tend to take special teams for granted. Except when every long snap is an adventure. Except when teams are breaking long punt and kickoff returns.

When the long snaps are delivered precisely, when the opponent only makes short returns, people tend not to notice special teams. The forget that that 5 yard return could have been 25 or longer. Special teams play a vital role.
 

RodentRampage said:
And here I thought tackling on special teams was a contribution. What a mistake I made, siding with every coach who has ever lived. I didn't know it tackling on special teams wasn't important - far better to let the return man keep running and running!

Seriously, you can't neglect special teams, you will pay dearly for that.
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re read the post dip*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#, I said use your stud players, i.e. starters at other positions, I did not say don't tackle people or neglect special teams, rather use guys like Tinsley, Cooper, TS, etc..
 

Should I pat Tripplet on the back and thank him for his 4 years of not starting at Linebacker? The dude was a waste of scholarship for 4 years before finally getting a starting spot
 



bankonit said:
re read the post dip*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#, I said use your stud players, i.e. starters at other positions, I did not say don't tackle people or neglect special teams, rather use guys like Tinsley, Cooper, TS, etc..
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Have you played football before? I would love to see you coach a team for one season. You would be worse than Brewster in his first year because at least he won a game. You have unrealistic goals and ideas for everything ranging from recruiting all the way up to game planning and depth charts.
 

bankonit said:
Should I pat Tripplet on the back and thank him for his 4 years of not starting at Linebacker? The dude was a waste of scholarship for 4 years before finally getting a starting spot
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I usually do not try to bash people's posts, but this shows a complete lack of football know how. Have you ever been to a college practice? Obviously, you have never played at any sort of a competitive level or maybe at all. Special teams is a HUGE part of the game and especially in college where good return men can completely change games. I guarantee you that if an opponent were to have an average starting field position of the 50 you would notice special teams.

Also, I bet that Heath Farwell has been a total waste of a player for the Vikings. Oh wait, he was made a Pro Bowler for his contributions on special teams.
 

Tripplet is the perfect example of an outstanding athlete that takes awhile to figure out how to use him. I suspect that if Coach Butler had been here his entire career we would have had him for two years as a starter. Developing players is what separates football programs we are just now seeing results. I can't wait for the season so I can watch the team develop especially on defense. I think the offense is just now getting the building blocks in place so I expect it to be better but somewhat of a work in progress.
 

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