jon marston
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Glad he’s able to get his education at the U.
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From the article: He remains enrolled at the U and will be considered a “medical non-counter,” the source said. This means his financial aid will remain for less than a year and he won’t be included in the program’s scholarship limits, according to NCAA bylaws.
Huh? How does this work? Does he get an academic scholarship?
Here's the ruleThey have a non-active player scholarship system available for injured players. His funding will actually be for the entirety of his 4 years.
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Wow - Alex Riegelsperger and now him. That is a lot of career ending injuries. And people thought Nolan Edmonds was transferring due to lack of playing time.
I often wonder how players like Rodney Smith, Shannon Brooks, and Antoine Winfield Jr if they will fully recovered to their injury enough to be the same player they were.
They have a non-active player scholarship system available for injured players. His funding will actually be for the entirety of his 4 years.
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Here's the rule
(e) Eligibility Exhausted/Medical Non-counter. A student-athlete who has exhausted eligibility and is exempt from counting (per Bylaw 15.5.1.5) in the institution’s financial aid limit, or a student athlete who is exempt from counting (per Bylaw 15.5.1.2) due to an injury or illness may receive athletically related financial aid for less than one academic year. If an institution awards aid under this provision, the institutional financial aid agreement shall include specific non-athletically related conditions (e.g., academic requirements) the student-athlete must satisfy in order for the aid to be renewed for the next academic term or terms. If the student-athlete satisfies the specified conditions, the institution shall award financial aid at the same amount for the next term or terms of the academic year. If the student-athlete does not satisfy the specified conditions, he or she must be provided a hearing opportunity per Bylaw 15.3.2.3.
https://financialaid.arizona.edu/general/ncaa-manual-bylaw-15-financial-aid-excerpts
I thought he was pushed off the plank by PJ.
Went back and looked- don’t think anyone postulated that in regards to Nolan. Many, including I, spoke in generalities about hoping kids who compose our annual attrition aren’t pushed off the team. Nice try though[emoji6].
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I don’t think anyone has ever said a player was forced out by PJ. Yet we seem convinced that it is a common practice that Fleck will eventually resort to like the other coaches.
These could become more common from a mental health standpoint.
There was an article I believe that 30% of our athletes are affected by a mental health issue. That could easily be a reason to not continue with football. If you are depressed, have anxiety issues, etc., those could all be reasons to quit football and seek the medical non-count waiver.
I don’t think anyone has ever said a player was forced out by PJ. Yet we seem convinced that it is a common practice that Fleck will eventually resort to like the other coaches.
Of course not, but it would be insane to act like you knew the particular reasons for a particular player.
I cannot imagine anyone following college football closely would ever come to any conclusion but that pushing players happens in college football. I am not sure why you are acting like the inability to speak towards a particular player's situation somehow contradicts a general narrative. It's always easier to notice and observe a general phenomenon that it is to find the granular examples.
For example, I think we can all agree that there are probably quite a few college players who use PEDs. I can't point to random people who haven't tested positive and say "that person is on steroids". However, that does not take away from the idea or likelihood that players are taking PEDs. You can say the same thing with players receiving money or getting help with courses, etc.
Your example is a poor one as you are referring to things players are trying to keep secret. I do not think that is the case with players being forced out. <b>It happens, </b>but I do not think it is super common. I think a coach would get a bad reputation if they did this often. It sounds like this was the case with St.-Juste at Michigan, and I've read similar stories happening at Bama, but these coaches have great reps, it would take a lot to damage them. <b>The arguments for why a kid would keep quiet about being forced out are super weak. </b>Once the kid lands at a new school there is nothing to stop him from opening his mouth, even before then it's debatable how detrimental it would be to speak up. If having an honest discussion with the kid about their chances of future playing time is considered "pushing them out", then I agree, that is common I'm sure. I don't even know if a coach even has the power to take away the scholarship without cause if the kid doesn't agree to leave.
Why do you suspect those you acknowledge having it happen to didn’t bash the coaches afterwards?
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Your example is a poor one as you are referring to things players are trying to keep secret. I do not think that is the case with players being forced out. It happens, but I do not think it is super common. I think a coach would get a bad reputation if they did this often. It sounds like this was the case with St.-Juste at Michigan, and I've read similar stories happening at Bama, but these coaches have great reps, it would take a lot to damage them. The arguments for why a kid would keep quiet about being forced out are super weak. Once the kid lands at a new school there is nothing to stop him from opening his mouth, even before then it's debatable how detrimental it would be to speak up. If having an honest discussion with the kid about their chances of future playing time is considered "pushing them out", then I agree, that is common I'm sure. I don't even know if a coach even has the power to take away the scholarship without cause if the kid doesn't agree to leave.
Well since 2015 P5 teams are not allowed to pull scholarships for athletic reasons, so if a player wanted to speak out they’d have to prove the reason they were cut was made up.