Just noticed that 247 now has him as a 4-star in its own rankings (and 148 nationally). Wow.
https://247sports.com/player/tre-williams-46046489/
Just noticed that 247 now has him as a 4-star in its own rankings (and 148 nationally). Wow.
https://247sports.com/player/tre-williams-46046489/
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I also see there are two rankings on 247. A composite ranking and a "Top 247" ranking. Tre is ranked 183rd in the composite and 148th in the other. Does anyone know the difference between these, or how they are computed?
Is he a guard, I was always under the assumption he was a SF.
the 247 ranking is their site's ranking. The composite is the average ranking between 247, ESPN, Rivals and maybe Scout.
the 247 ranking is their site's ranking. The composite is the average ranking between 247, ESPN, Rivals and maybe Scout.
I thought the 4 star designation usually only went down to 120 or 130.
The stars are kinda stupid IMO. I just like to see what number they are ranked. But that doesn't matter much either, they had Gabe at #198.
Rankings aren't perfect, but they're usually pretty reliable (obviously they didn't give Gabe enough credit). For everyone here who has never seen him play, rankings/offers are all we have to go by, which is why I was initially skeptical about how good he was. I'm encouraged by these new reports though. Sounds like someone who is definitely worth a scholarship. I like that he seems to have a good attitude and is willing to play hard on defense and do the little things. I'm happy to have him.
These reports are encouraging. It’s beginning to look as if I didn’t know what I was talking about, and I’ll be happy if that turns out to be the case.
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It's as if Pitino and staff do this recruiting thing for a living and we don't.These reports are encouraging. It’s beginning to look as if I didn’t know what I was talking about, and I’ll be happy if that turns out to be the case.
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None of us know a damn thing. But that low ranking sure lured us in. Now he’s re-evaluated and we like him. We STILL don’t know a damn thing. Time will tell but neither the kid nor his recruiters deserve any criticism before he’s ever played a minute. Maybe let it play out one time!
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Except for somebody who professionally scouts players and is the editor of a large recruiting website went and saw him play a couple games and then wrote detailed notes about it. So, someone does know a little something.
I’m guessing the same pro saw Gabe play in high school as well as college coaches and all are now saying they were wrong on where they had him. It happens. I liked Tre and Gabe. Didn’t know Gabe would make this impact so early. I don’t know if Tre will and neither does anyone else. We hope they do but we don’t know. My point was before we pass judgement on anyone we should let it play out.
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Agreed on that point. I was just speaking to the adjusted rankings
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Sounds like he played in a Thanksgiving tournament and was the player of the game in both wins his team had... many national scouts singled him out as a standout playerhttps://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Minnesota-signee-Tre-Williams-makes-statement-at-Holiday-Hoopsgiving-125318596/
He is now a 4-star under 247's ranking.
Did the Minnesota scholarship push him from 3* to 4*? Hahaha. We're comin'!
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Oh I don't know, maybe it's because his son didn't get many D1 offers which literally means most D1 coaches are doubting his ability to play on that level?Why would the father of a recruit get this idea that people are doubting his son’s talent? Maybe he read this thread, it is open to the public and has free access...
Everyone is free to express their opinion, but please pause a moment and think before you wildly speculate without any knowledge. It is read by more people than you think.
A large majority of the fans trust Pitino’s judgement over some recruiting site.
We are excited to see Tre wearing Maroon and Gold (and some white, black...) next year.
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Except for somebody who professionally scouts players and is the editor of a large recruiting website went and saw him play a couple games and then wrote detailed notes about it. So, someone does know a little something.
No, we also had the coaches evaluation that lead to an offer and a commitment. A lot of people were discounting and even ridiculing the coaches judgement. In hindsight, it looks like the problem was with the posters snap to judgement and not with the coaches We will know more in the years to come. It is nice to see some at least realize that they may have over reacted.
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Eric Bossi is respected by coaches for his opinion and he likes this recruit. Most of the internet scouts are hacks and just raise and lower rankings based on what coaches have offered. A name who coaches actually pay is THE GODFATHER OF SCOUTING , Tom Konchalski and he is not online, he is independent and his stuff sells for about 475.00 seperate from a individual evaluation. Rankings are for fans. Anyone can rank the the top 10. Real recruiting is finding guys like Murphy and Gabe. Non blue blood schools win big with these finds.
Rankings aren't perfect, but they're usually pretty reliable
Naivete. They aren't that reliable when you get beyond the most elite players and they are probably in some ways less reliable now than they were twenty-five years ago for the same reasons that "journalism" is less reliable than it was twenty-five years ago. Any schmuck with a laptop can now publish things that amount to little more than a combination of plagiarism and shallow acquaintance. And there are too many outlets and not enough quality editors.