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Is this the crazy dude that put geese around his practice facility to symbolize "flocking together"?


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Spoofin said:
Is this the crazy dude that put geese around his practice facility to symbolize "flocking together"?


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Pft... he talks a big game but throws his players under the bus more than any coach I can remember here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efuMyNlvz1c

"We're not deep enough, we don't have enough talent"
"Why didn't we deserve to win? We turned the ball over. That's the story of the game right there."
"Special teams, we miss a kick off for field position."
"We throw a pick in the red... er... green zone."
"There were plenty of times we had him, we just didn't tackle well in space."
(After listing pretty much every phase of the game) "They exposed a lot of our weaknesses, and that's how we go to practice and fix the things that we're not really good at right now"
"I don't think we did a good job blocking."
(start bull****) and this is on me by the way (end bull****)
 


hello-world said:
Pft... he talks a big game but throws his players under the bus more than any coach I can remember here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efuMyNlvz1c

"We're not deep enough, we don't have enough talent"
"Why didn't we deserve to win? We turned the ball over. That's the story of the game right there."
"Special teams, we miss a kick off for field position."
"We throw a pick in the red... er... green zone."
"There were plenty of times we had him, we just didn't tackle well in space."
(After listing pretty much every phase of the game) "They exposed a lot of our weaknesses, and that's how we go to practice and fix the things that we're not really good at right now"
"I don't think we did a good job blocking."
(start bull****) and this is on me by the way (end bull****)
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I don't think you understand what throwing someone under the bus means.
 

Spoofin said:
Is this the crazy dude that put geese around his practice facility to symbolize "flocking together"?


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Just bought one on Amazon. Hope it comes water proofed.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don't think you understand what throwing someone under the bus means.
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I don't think you understand that he's not actually accepting any blame.
To throw someone under the bus: "cause someone else to suffer in order to save oneself or gain personal advantage."

Every criticism that people could make of him he blames on his players (or lack-there-of) to avoid any kind of accountability.
That is greatly to his advantage as long as people are buying into his bull****.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's going to learn from that loss and come out with a better team today, but he is not as nice of a guy as people keep claiming.
 

hello-world said:
I don't think you understand that he's not actually accepting any blame.
To throw someone under the bus: "cause someone else to suffer in order to save oneself or gain personal advantage."

Every criticism that people could make of him he blames on his players (or lack-there-of) to avoid any kind of accountability.
That is greatly to his advantage as long as people are buying into his bull****.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's going to learn from that loss and come out with a better team today, but he is not as nice of a guy as people keep claiming.
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The press conference I heard, he pretty much straight out said it's on him and he needs to do a better job coaching.

You must have missed that part.

Watch the whole thing over beginning to end, then do it again... then keep doing it so you post here less.

Then come back and respond to your thread about whether he took accountability or not.

Thanks so much!
 



If he's going to single out the individuals with off the field issues then it's perfectly fair to single out individuals that aren't performing on the field. Personally I'd rather not see either discussed in public.
 

Spoofin said:
Is this the crazy dude that put geese around his practice facility to symbolize "flocking together"?


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Yeah, oof. This could be one of those unintentionally comical ideas that may live in infamy. Suppose he looks at them like sixth graders. Belichick, Walsh do stuff like that?

Deadspin article on motivational gimmicks:

In case you missed it earlier this week, new Raiders interim coach (and soon-to-be-former Raiders employee) Tony Sparano ceremonially buried a football in front of his team to give them a fresh start, or something. The footage is super ****ing awkward, especially since Sparano narrates the burial as he's conducting it, as if he's doing a radio simulcast. I copied the beginning of the speech here verbatim…

"What this ball represents and what this hole represents are the first four games of the season. The first quarter of our season … This ball, to me, goes in this hole! Okay? Four game's worth! [drops the ball] All right? Goes in the hole. And now I'm gonna put the first piece of dirt on it. Okay? Anybody else that wants to put any dirt on it, you help yourself. And if you don't feel like you need to do anything like that, okay, I'm fine with that." [everyone comes and helps shovel so it's not awkward]
Jesus, that is weak. He even gave players the choice of not burying it. "Let's go kick some ass! Or, if that's not really your thing right now, let's not." Needless to say, this will not prevent the Raiders from getting crushed by the Chargers this weekend. There is no future in which the Raiders make the playoffs and Darren McFadden is sitting at a press conference going, "That hole turned everything around for us." Sparano's ball-burying will go right into the historical dustbin of amusing motivational coaching gimmicks, such as:

-Jack Del Rio putting an axe and a stump in the middle of the locker room, which resulted in Jaguars punter Chris Hanson burying that axe in his own leg.
-Marty Mornhinweg riding off early from Lions practice in a motorcycle
-Herm Edwards' "We can build on this!" speech
-Jackie Sherrill castrating a bull in front of his own players when he was at Mississippi State (Sherrill later apologized)
-A Tennessee high school coach vandalizing his own school with spray-painted insults directed at his own players (which he hoped they would assume were put there by a rival school). He was arrested.
-Bob Knight "brandishing soiled toilet paper" at his own players. I'm not even sure of the intent there, frankly. "Play better or I will touch you with this."
-Another high school coach pretending to shoot himself in front of his team. He resigned.
-Mike Singletary pulling his pants down at halftime in the 49ers locker room. "I used my pants to illustrate that we were getting our tails whipped on Sunday and how humiliating that should feel for all of us." They went on to lose that game. Pants, in general, should only be used for wearing.
-Dennis Franchione staging a terrorist raid of his own locker room, followed by a SWAT team coming in and liberating the locker room from the pretend terrorists. Here is part of a description of that incident: "[T]wo of the Rangers burst into the room portraying terrorists bearing (wooden fake) weapons. They 'captured' Scott in front of the group and tied him up and blindfolded him, while the others held the players hostage." (God, I wish there was video of that. That's amazing.)

https://deadspin.com/the-worst-motivational-coaching-gimmicks-in-history-1644267255



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Pompous Elitist said:
Yeah, oof. This could be one of those unintentionally comical ideas that may live in infamy. Suppose he looks at them like sixth graders. Belichick, Walsh do stuff like that?
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Unfortunately, lots of coaches do this stupid stuff. When I read the geese story the first thing I thought of was "fat cats". Equally as dumb and "motivating".


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Would placing a piece of Rose Bowl turf in the locker room count?
 




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