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Vikings - Bud Grant

Twins - Tom Kelly

Wild - Yao

Wolves - Flip

Gopher Basketball - Mussleman

Gopher Football - Murray Warmath

Gopher Hockey - Herb Brooks (don't even think about arguing with this one!)
 

Mpls Lakers - Gopher legend John Kundla.

Go Gophers!!
 

Oh and Bernie Bierman blows Warmath away as best Gopher football coach. No comparison, and that's not a knock on Warmath.

Go Gophers!!
 

I forgot about Bernie.
 

if we're including muss (sanctions) then we get to include the gem. final four, elite 8 and s16. clem wins hands down.
 


If your talking teams, The Mychal Thompson, McHale, Winey, Ray Williams, Flip team would have crushed Clem's best team IMO. I know I'm missing another stud from that team.

Of course this team did best for Dutcher in 76-77 and was ineligible for post season play for selling tickets. But they were mostly Musselman's Recruits.

Besides, how can you top the pregame?
 

I would say Clem the Gem is the best for hoops. Lemaire hands down for the Wild. Can't argue with Bud, Tom Kelly or Herb Brooks. Could make the argument for Musselman with the wolves, he just didn't jive with ownership wanting to tank, I think he would've been their Jacque Lemaire, but I would still go with Flip. Bernie over Warmath. Cheryl Reeves Bob Gainey for the North Stars
 

Best Coaching Rant in Minnesota History! Hands Down!!!
 

MN Kicks- Freddie Goodwin

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Gopher Volleyball
I still worship at the altar of Mike Hebert. How we got him, I don't know. The state of the program now is basically The House That Mike Built.

Gopher Womens Hoops
If we'd only been able to hang onto her: Brenda Oldfield (Frese). She's an example of a risky, non-conventional, speculative hire gone right and why you can't be afraid to take a risk like that when the situation is right.

As for the major sports, Tom Kelly won championships, but it was (or should have been) a no-brainer, with him standing there, waiting in the wings. The Bud Grant hire was brilliant and much more courageous. There was no telling whether success in the CFL would transfer to the NFL (e.g. Marc Trestman).
 

MN Thunder/MN United: Manny Lagos.

North Stars: Lou Nanne.

Fighting Saints: Glenn Sonmor.

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Bad Gopher said:
Gopher Volleyball
I still worship at the altar of Mike Hebert. How we got him, I don't know. The state of the program now is basically The House That Mike Built.
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You have to thank Chris Voelz. She talked Hebert into the job and cleared the way with a somewhat controversial firing-probably in reverse order; but I don't know.

Regarding Basketball: I'm going with Clem.
 

Jay Robinson deserves mention here. He and his predecessor span 60 plus years of Gopher wrestling.

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http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...hives/2011-12-12/memory-lane-mike-hebert.html

From the archives-the Illini perspective on the hiring of Mike Hebert:

Hebert's five-year contract at Minnesota includes a base salary of $86,300 and a yearly media income of $10,000. He will also get two transitional payments of $9,500 each.

Minnesota added to the package by hiring Sherry Hebert, an elementary school teacher in Urbana, as an academic counselor for its football and new women's ice hockey programs. Voelz said Sherry Hebert's salary would be about $30,000.

"It just made good sense to match them up and kind of get two for one here," Voelz said

And hiring coaches can be messy:

Minnesota first became interested in Hebert after the 1994 season.

But that contact ended when former Minnesota coach Stephanie Schleuder sued the school, claiming it discriminated against her in her pay and that the university had fired her because she sought equal compensation for women's and men's coaches.

"In January, unfortunately, we got handed an injunction, which prevented us from hiring a coach," Voelz said.

Hebert withdrew his name from consideration. The school settled out of court with Schleuder, and offered the position to two other coaches, Voelz said.

"They said "No, we don't think so,' " Voelz said. "We went "Timeout. We're not going to get a great coach now.' We took our restricted earnings coach (Miller-Dombeck) and asked her to be the interim head coach. She knew she would not be the head coach from Day 1." went after Hebert. She met with the Illinois coach at the NCAA Final Four in Amherst, Mass. Hebert then went to Minneapolis last week to see the campus. Then came the offer.

Hebert called Voelz on Christmas Day to tell her he would accept
 

Don't forget:

Minnesota Goofy's (softball) coached by Lou White

Minnesota Muskies - Jim Pollard
 


Ignatius L Hoops said:
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...hives/2011-12-12/memory-lane-mike-hebert.html

From the archives-the Illini perspective on the hiring of Mike Hebert:

Hebert's five-year contract at Minnesota includes a base salary of $86,300 and a yearly media income of $10,000. He will also get two transitional payments of $9,500 each.

Minnesota added to the package by hiring Sherry Hebert, an elementary school teacher in Urbana, as an academic counselor for its football and new women's ice hockey programs. Voelz said Sherry Hebert's salary would be about $30,000.

"It just made good sense to match them up and kind of get two for one here," Voelz said

And hiring coaches can be messy:

Minnesota first became interested in Hebert after the 1994 season.

But that contact ended when former Minnesota coach Stephanie Schleuder sued the school, claiming it discriminated against her in her pay and that the university had fired her because she sought equal compensation for women's and men's coaches.

"In January, unfortunately, we got handed an injunction, which prevented us from hiring a coach," Voelz said.

Hebert withdrew his name from consideration. The school settled out of court with Schleuder, and offered the position to two other coaches, Voelz said.

"They said "No, we don't think so,' " Voelz said. "We went "Timeout. We're not going to get a great coach now.' We took our restricted earnings coach (Miller-Dombeck) and asked her to be the interim head coach. She knew she would not be the head coach from Day 1." went after Hebert. She met with the Illinois coach at the NCAA Final Four in Amherst, Mass. Hebert then went to Minneapolis last week to see the campus. Then came the offer.

Hebert called Voelz on Christmas Day to tell her he would accept
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Wow, there was more to it than I thought. Thanks for the remedial history lesson!
 

Minneapolis Millers - Manager (player/manager btw) Bill Rigney

In 1955 Rigney and the Millers beat the Rochester Red Wings in the Junior World Series. Monte Irvin was on the team.
 

rrjackIII said:
Minneapolis Millers - Manager (player/manager btw) Bill Rigney

In 1955 Rigney and the Millers beat the Rochester Red Wings in the Junior World Series. Monte Irvin was on the team.
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So, rrjackIII, where do you rate Mauch, who managed the Millers to a 4-0 series sweep over Montreal in the '58 Junior World Series? The series Rigney was in went 4-3.

I had to try and look up the info about Rigney being a player/manager and came across the Mauch stuff. Always amazed me when guys were able to do that at such a high level.
 

Even tho Mauch (who also was a player/manager) beat Havana with Fidel Castro in attendance I am partial to Rigney. Millers were a giant farm team under Rigney. Under Mauch they were a Red Sox farm team. Under Rigney the Millers played at Nicollet Park. Under Mauch they played at Met Stadium. As a fan of both the Giants and Nicollet park I have to side with Manager Bill.

Part of the reason met stadium was built was to lure Horace stoneham and the Giants to Minneapols. when the Giants moved to San Francisco (at the urging of the Dodgers) instead of Minneapolis they could no longer have their farm team in mpls. Thus came the Red Sox affiliation. That was Slim consolation to having willy roaming center field again in Minneapolis.

When does baseball start?

Edit. Millers (under Mauch) lost the series to Havana. They did win a game in Havana tho.

http://stewthornley.net/millers_havana.html
 

Basketball....Musselman by a mile . Who would've have been in there had he stayed. Bill Fitch.
 


Bad Gopher said:
Gopher Volleyball
I still worship at the altar of Mike Hebert. How we got him, I don't know. The state of the program now is basically The House That Mike Built.

Gopher Womens Hoops
If we'd only been able to hang onto her: Brenda Oldfield (Frese). She's an example of a risky, non-conventional, speculative hire gone right and why you can't be afraid to take a risk like that when the situation is right.

As for the major sports, Tom Kelly won championships, but it was (or should have been) a no-brainer, with him standing there, waiting in the wings. The Bud Grant hire was brilliant and much more courageous. There was no telling whether success in the CFL would transfer to the NFL (e.g. Marc Trestman).
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I don't know how much of a no-brainer Kelly was at the time. He was only 36 when he was hired. He was the third-base coach for Ray Miller, who was fired toward the end of his second season with a 59-80 record. Kelly took over for the final weeks of the season. I don't remember if Kelly was named the permanent replacement immediately or in the off-season. But at a time when a total house-cleaning seemed in order, hiring the 36-year-old third-base coach seemed like a stretch for 33-year-old GM Andy MacPhail.
 

Hates Monikers said:
I don't know how much of a no-brainer Kelly was at the time. He was only 36 when he was hired. He was the third-base coach for Ray Miller, who was fired toward the end of his second season with a 59-80 record. Kelly took over for the final weeks of the season. I don't remember if Kelly was named the permanent replacement immediately or in the off-season. But at a time when a total house-cleaning seemed in order, hiring the 36-year-old third-base coach seemed like a stretch for 33-year-old GM Andy MacPhail.
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It was during the off season. I expected it, but it wasn't a sure thing. The reason I think of it as a no-brainer is because he had distinguished himself as a manager in the minor leagues (more than one manager of the year award) and as a coach at the major league level. He deserved a chance at some point. I suppose they could have passed him over for a veteran manager in the hopes that he'd still be available in the future, but I think of that as being self defeating (i.e. assuming your present-day hire isn't going to be successful and that you'll be looking for a manager again in a few years).
 


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