Possible fix for Empty Student Seats?

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I don't know about the rules here or what the AD said about it, but how permanent is the no alcohol rule? If college students are as big a drunk as myself that oughta get some more butts in the seats knowing they can go to the concessions and by a cold glass of over-priced beer. Plus we all benefit from it.:clap:
 



Why did they disallow alcohol in the first place? I don't live in MN and wasn't privy to the local news covering the matter. And yes I'm serious, its about as good any other ideas posted so far. You don't think getting rid of this rule would have a positive affect on student attendance, or any other attendane for that matter?
 

minibeaver said:
Why did they disallow alcohol in the first place? I don't live in MN and wasn't privy to the local news covering the matter. And yes I'm serious, its about as good any other ideas posted so far. You don't think getting rid of this rule would have a positive affect on student attendance, or any other attendane for that matter?
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first of all. you can thank our Minnesota lawmakers who had to stick there little nose into the Gophers business in the first place.
 


So it was not the U's decision? I don't know maybe it wouldn't help at all and judging by the comments I'm pretty much alone on this one.
I can't imagine there being a downside in this though. More money being spent at the stadium, potentially more people/students coming to the game, and a more hostile environment for our opponent to play in.
 

gophersfan said:
first of all. you can thank our Minnesota lawmakers who had to stick there little nose into the Gophers business in the first place.
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I have absolutely no interest in getting in a lengthy political debate on a sports message board, but this is a public stadium, at a public university, both of which receive government money and exemptions. "Gopher business" is the business of the state.
 

Gopherprof said:
I have absolutely no interest in getting in a lengthy political debate on a sports message board, but this is a public stadium, at a public university, both of which receive government money and exemptions. "Gopher business" is the business of the state.
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Oh my god, well you won't have to worry about a political debate. Some colleges have allowed beer however if you care to do the research.
 

The state didn't dissallow alcohol sales. let's not cloud the truth. The U only wanted to have it in the high brow areas. The leg. said, no-- all or none. So the U said, "fine none then". that's pretty much how it went. the U was adamant that the students should not have access to alcohol. so to your question, it is the U that wants to keep the beer out of the hands of the students.
 



Gopherprof said:
I have absolutely no interest in getting in a lengthy political debate on a sports message board, but this is a public stadium, at a public university, both of which receive government money and exemptions. "Gopher business" is the business of the state.
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The legislature has the power to appropriate funds, not pass laws that affect how the Regents govern the University. That's because the U has Constitutional Autonomy. So yes, Gopher business is the business of the state so far as the money is concerned. The legislature overstepped with their alcohol legislation. The U likely had a case to overturn if they wanted to, but they went dry instead.

Back to the OP's original question, its a non-issue because the U was never going to serve alcohol in the general seating precisely because it would be available to students.
 

Its the regents playing "nanny"

I have no problem with what the legislature did. Why should the U care if students are drinking a beer, as long as they are 21 and can pay for it? Obviously if they are too drunk you wouldnt serve them anyways. it just seems to me that a school that constantly talks about equality and "social justice" would try and only serve alcohol in the rich club seats. Its not as if the students are drinking before hand at a tailgate party and then righ afterwords in Dinkytown.
 

GoAUpher said:
The legislature has the power to appropriate funds, not pass laws that affect how the Regents govern the University. That's because the U has Constitutional Autonomy. So yes, Gopher business is the business of the state so far as the money is concerned. The legislature overstepped with their alcohol legislation. The U likely had a case to overturn if they wanted to, but they went dry instead.

Back to the OP's original question, its a non-issue because the U was never going to serve alcohol in the general seating precisely because it would be available to students.
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I wasn't really arguing the specifics of the situation, only against the general premise that somehow Gopher business and state business are not intertwined.
 





Too bad you guys weren't around for the endless GopherHole beer debates last summer. The "sell beer to fill the empty seats" argument might have carried the day for those of us who waged our lonely campaign for the right to enjoy a beer in Gopher Stadium
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Too bad you guys weren't around for the endless GopherHole beer debates last summer. The "sell beer to fill the empty seats" argument might have carried the day for those of us who waged our lonely campaign for the right to enjoy a beer in Gopher Stadium
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Wait, you mean you didn't win the day with the argument that denying the masses beer was an equal protection issue? :rolleyes:

This is over and done with. If tasty adult beverages ever make it back to TCF it won't be in the hands of those of us who's food comes from Goal Line Pizza. Military, its a perception issue and if the U is a nanny so are 99% of the universities in the US.
 

The only reason that beer was served in the Metrodome was that the U did not own or run the Metrodome. There are only a very few colleges that allow beer to be served in the general seating, most don't allow it anywhere but in the luxury boxes.

The legislature overstepped its power. They don't have the authority to tell the U where it can and can't serve beer. The U could have taken this to the state Supreme Court and won.
 


Goldmember said:
The student section is sold out.
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Thank you Goldmember.

To avoid another unending discussion about beer sales at the stadium, the premise of serving beers to fill seats was off base to begin with. Student tickets are sold out. 10,000 students can stand in 8,000 spaces because there is a lot of room and people aren't sitting. Selling beer wouldn't change whether or not students stand and whether or not the cram in to lower rows leaving the top rows of the section (or whether some tickets go unused on some weeks).

Overselling the student section is the most feasible way to fill the 10,000 spots.
 

I, for one, appreciate the OP's efforts to bring together two of the more controversial topics on GopherHole this year: beer in the stadium and the empty seats in the student section. I'll be even more impressed if, somehow, we can work Weber v. Gray or the relative merits of Mason and Brewster into this thread.
 

For next season, just reduce the width of the space alotted per person on the benches in the student section. That way, you can sell more student tickets. They don't need as much space, as on average, they aren't as wide as their elders.
 

RodentRampage said:
For next season, just reduce the width of the space alotted per person on the benches in the student section. That way, you can sell more student tickets. They don't need as much space, as on average, they aren't as wide as their elders.
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Not a bad idea...especially since I doubt they'd ever make the student section chairbacks (which is why the benches are so roomy in the first place).
 

gophersfan said:
first of all. you can thank our Minnesota lawmakers who had to stick there little nose into the Gophers business in the first place.
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Well they also gave us half the money to build it. idk it's not gonna happen. You can't buy beer at any other big ten stadium either so it makes sense. I like it.
 

MilitaryGopher said:
I have no problem with what the legislature did. Why should the U care if students are drinking a beer, as long as they are 21 and can pay for it? Obviously if they are too drunk you wouldnt serve them anyways. it just seems to me that a school that constantly talks about equality and "social justice" would try and only serve alcohol in the rich club seats. Its not as if the students are drinking before hand at a tailgate party and then righ afterwords in Dinkytown.
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or just don't serve it and don't deal with the 21?, too drunk, sober enough, BS. it just opens up a can of worms...plus it's a school they don't want to be seen as endorsing or encouraging drinking.
 

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