Will Duke be stripped of '10 title?

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I'll go with the 'laying on the ground' theory.
 

It'll be the same thing as the Maggette thing. Nothing will happen.
 


There is an exception in the NCAA rule book for benefits of less then 150k from NYC jewelry stores. Nothing to see here.
 



Another example of you not being able to trust anybody. JoPA and coach K. With those two fallen, anyone is fair game. What about the guys that aren't nearly the boy scouts as coach K, like fake tan Roy in Chapel Hill and Izzo. I'm sure their time will come. Not to mention cheating Thad, in that cesspool of filth, Columbus. Even Billy Self has some serious clouds swirling.
 

balds said:
Another example of you not being able to trust anybody. JoPA and coach K. With those two fallen, anyone is fair game. What about the guys that aren't nearly the boy scouts as coach K, like fake tan Roy in Chapel Hill and Izzo. I'm sure their time will come. Not to mention cheating Thad, in that cesspool of filth, Columbus. Even Billy Self has some serious clouds swirling.
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You should stick to bashing Calipari, Scott Drew and Ben Howland for cheating in basketball. If you want to broaden your scope, go after Steve Lavin. None of the basketball coaches you mentioned were named as cheaters by their fellow coaches in a recent poll. There's nothing to suggest Coach K had anything to do with Lance Thomas' jewelry purchase (or how he got $30K) - Duke may get penalized for it (perhaps their 2010 title will be vacated), but the reality is Coach K didn't have to do any cheating to get a guy like Lance Thomas to come to Durham because guys like Thomas are lining up to go to Duke. I don't think that any of the schools you mentioned "have it coming" as you suggest, but if Duke is penalized it's most likely not going to be related to the coaching staff doing anything wrong - I think it's just a fluke. Calipari, Drew and Howland are the ones who "have it coming" so to speak.
 

Where did he get the $30K down payment? His mother works at a Ford plant and I don't think his father is in the picture. I don't think it's family money.
 



Art Vandelay said:
Where did he get the $30K down payment? His mother works at a Ford plant and I don't think his father is in the picture. I don't think it's family money.
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They'll just put Cleveland State or Minnesota on probation as a result of this
 

This is much, much, much, much different than the Maggette situation. Much. Has me worried. Always liked Lance Thomas. That he could be that stupid to put his team's NC banner in peril is just mind-boggling. Either the facts are incorrect or he's an idiot.

His Mom does have a decent paying job but can't imagine it's one that would pay for $30k in jewelry. Also, that's not the real issue. The real issue is he was offered $60k+ in credit for jewelry. Is that something a non-student athlete would be offered? If not, he should be ruled ineligible and the NCAA has to make a decision.

Likely a bad, dumb decision by a person I thought was better than that. If true, he'll be banished from the Duke family for life for such a selfish act. Jewelry for your team's NC and reputation? Deserves multiple swift kicks to the balls if true.
 

This reminds of the scene from Goodfellas where DiNiero gets pissed at his cohorts for going out and buying cars, furs, and expensive jewelry right after they pulled off a big heist.

How dumb does Lance Thomas have to be to think nobody would notice, especially if he had no intention on paying off the balance? How does this go unreported so long? Are you saying if Trevor Mbakwe walked into a jewelry store with $30K in cash to buy $100K worth of jewlery....nobody would say anything for 2-3 years??!?!?!
 

Art Vandelay said:
This reminds of the scene from Goodfellas where DiNiero gets pissed at his cohorts for going out and buying cars, furs, and expensive jewelry right after they pulled off a big heist.

How dumb does Lance Thomas have to be to think nobody would notice, especially if he had no intention on paying off the balance? How does this go unreported so long? Are you saying if Trevor Mbakwe walked into a jewelry store with $30K in cash to buy $100K worth of jewlery....nobody would say anything for 2-3 years??!?!?!
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I hope Dick Vitale has to eat his words about the purity of Duke, et al.
 



Art Vandelay said:
This reminds of the scene from Goodfellas where DiNiero gets pissed at his cohorts for going out and buying cars, furs, and expensive jewelry right after they pulled off a big heist.

How dumb does Lance Thomas have to be to think nobody would notice, especially if he had no intention on paying off the balance? How does this go unreported so long? Are you saying if Trevor Mbakwe walked into a jewelry store with $30K in cash to buy $100K worth of jewlery....nobody would say anything for 2-3 years??!?!?!
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Well, it was about 24 months after his payment was due when he was sued, I guess they expected him to pay them out of his first pro contract or something. I doubt they wanted it to come to this point because it won't be good for a business that caters to athletes to be in the news for suing them.
 


Never trust a college basketball coach with slick hair, period. Who will be the next to fall? Billy D? Mad That Matta?
 

howeda7 said:
Never trust a college basketball coach with slick hair, period. Who will be the next to fall? Billy D? Mad That Matta?
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Haven't been paying close attention to this story so I may have missed something, but how do we know Coach K knew anything about this? I doubt Thomas asked Coach K to spot him $30k. If someone gave it to him it was probably some random booster I would guess.
 


I'd rather not even see this kind of thing because it just irritates me that the NCAA will not do anything ever to punish one of its sacred cows. This will all be just swept under the rug somehow.

Makes a person wonder if all the programs that are historically good got that way by knowing how to cheat for over half a century and not get caught.
 

GophersOnTheRise said:
Haven't been paying close attention to this story so I may have missed something, but how do we know Coach K knew anything about this? I doubt Thomas asked Coach K to spot him $30k. If someone gave it to him it was probably some random booster I would guess.
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Doesn't matter if Coach K knew. NCAA used "strict liability" to penalize Memphis for Derrick Rose being rule ineligible, after the NCAA had cleared him prior to the season, upon finding out his SAT score was invalidated. Whether Memphis knew was irrelevant, the fact is they played an ineligible player. Same logic can apply to Duke. Whether the NCAA actually gets the facts they need in order to apply it is the $100K question.
 

OSUfan said:
Doesn't matter if Coach K knew. NCAA used "strict liability" to penalize Memphis for Derrick Rose being rule ineligible, after the NCAA had cleared him prior to the season, upon finding out his SAT score was invalidated. Whether Memphis knew was irrelevant, the fact is they played an ineligible player. Same logic can apply to Duke. Whether the NCAA actually gets the facts they need in order to apply it is the $100K question.
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That is the exact point. If the kid did what he is accused of, HE made himself ineligible, and unfortunately, other innocent people will pay the penalties for that.

Like it or not, that is the way it is.
 

OSUfan said:
Doesn't matter if Coach K knew. NCAA used "strict liability" to penalize Memphis for Derrick Rose being rule ineligible, after the NCAA had cleared him prior to the season, upon finding out his SAT score was invalidated. Whether Memphis knew was irrelevant, the fact is they played an ineligible player. Same logic can apply to Duke. Whether the NCAA actually gets the facts they need in order to apply it is the $100K question.
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You misunderstood my point. I was responding to the idea that you can't trust Coach K, which doesn't make sense unless he had something to do with it, which to my knowledge there's no proof of. I realize that the program itself is guilty either way.
 

"Coach, I need a $30,000 down payment on some jewelry I really want."

"No problem, I will get it in cash for you. That way it can't be tracked."

"Thanks, coach, you won't regret it."

Does anyone really think that Coach K would put a multi-million dollar per year contract in jeopardy???
 


Dr.Don said:
"Coach, I need a $30,000 down payment on some jewelry I really want."

"No problem, I will get it in cash for you. That way it can't be tracked."

"Thanks, coach, you won't regret it."

Does anyone really think that Coach K would put a multi-million dollar per year contract in jeopardy???
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Coach, I just raped dozens of kidsover the past decade. I need you to zip your lip about it.

Do you really think a legendary coach would risk decades of a winning and his own legacy by covering up an troublesome truth?

I can envision it.
 

balds said:
Coach, I just raped dozens of kidsover the past decade. I need you to zip your lip about it.

Do you really think a legendary coach would risk decades of a winning and his own legacy by covering up an troublesome truth?

I can envision it.
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I guess I can to, when ya get right down to it.
 

It looks like St. Mary's could be this decade's version of Cleveland State:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...rt-saint-marys-being-investigated-by-the-ncaa

And Duke? Looks like Teflon K will be keeping his banner, in all likelihood lauded by his sycophantic lapdogs:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...s-is-probably-gonna-be-the-new-corey-maggette

(while it makes my stomach churn to link to a Gregg Doyel column, his point about C. Maggette needs to be heard over and over):
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...gain-yes-unless-the-heat-stays-on-blue-devils

My instinct tells me that Coach K didn't know what Lance Thomas was doing behind the scenes, but an ineligible player is an ineligible player and if banners are taken down at UMass and Memphis for transgressions that were deemed no fault of the head coach (Slick Cal, as we all know) then the same should apply all over, wouldn't one think?

I wonder if after Coach K retires and one of his lackeys steps into the job, if the NCAA will hit Duke with some minor or not so minor rules violations, much like what happened at UCLA shortly after John Wooden retired and they finally enacted retribution for Sam Gilbert's influence. Obviously the NCAA is not going to make a peep while K is around.
 

Perhaps this observation has been made before by more astute people than I, but when thinking of Coach K's replacement at Duke, it could very well be Chet from Weird Science:
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coolhandgopher said:
And Duke? Looks like Teflon K will be keeping his banner, in all likelihood lauded by his sycophantic lapdogs:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...s-is-probably-gonna-be-the-new-corey-maggette
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I'm 100% positive that in preparation for the 2012-13 season, Dukie V is anxiously waiting to tongue-dart Coach K and Roy Williams, and to harshly scold all those who even dare suggest it's possible some unsavory things have happened under their watch, whether they knew about those things or not.
 

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