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Why is this forum so much more positive and uplifting that the Football Forum? Hummmmm. Oh, that's right we have a solid BB coach. I remember now. And he's a bargain. Build that practice facility now and just play football with an HC with the savings, couldn't be any worse.
 

It is more positve because it is the off season. First loss and the board goes negative.

Off season is when we claim the defense is more talented and Rodney Williams will be a lottery pick.
 

Check back after the first loss. This place gets nasty too. Tubby is a very solid coach, but bargain is a stretch. He is paid well.
 


I have noticed a very big difference in the two boards, not just in positive / negative, but even the worst "fight" on this board are never THAT bad, on the basketball board things are discussed with Iowa State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, Illinois, Purdue, etc. fans in a fairly positive way.

That's the biggest difference I have noticed.

Another big difference is that the basketball team, more often than not, wins, while the football team, well, doesn't.
 


While other posters are correct that things can get nasty over here during the winter season, I would attribute the better attitude to the fact that we have a coach who has proven he can in fact coach. Have there been disappointments? You bet, a couple of big ones. But even through all of that, the team has won 20 games for three straight years and made the NCAA Tournament the last two seasons. Now Tubby has established a certain level of stability, success and identity with the team, which leads to more support. And finally, the basketball team should be pretty good this year and in the future. Football? The jury is out for sure.
 

It's an interesting question that is raised often. A big part is the fact that Tubby is a proven coach and only in the absolute heat of the moment do folks forget that. And even before Tubby we've had proven coaches. Whatever his faults, Dan Monson did as well as anyone could have hoped his first several years. And even when it was apparent he was in over his head, it wasn't nearly as bad as Brewster.

Another factor is simply the fact that there are more games. If the basketball team had lost a similar game to USD, we'd probably be playing another game by Wednesday. There's less time to over-analyze.

Finally, even though Minnesota is a basketball school and the relative fan support is stronger for basketball, there are more 'casual' sports fans who follow a given gopher football game then any gopher basketball game. And those folks love to come out of the woodwork with each football loss.
 

Why indeed?

Why try to bring the negative stuff from the football board over to the basketball board? Its rather obvious why the basketball board isn't negative right now. And anyone who claims that the basketball board doesn't get negative either wasn't around for this last year or is just relishing that wonderful feeling one gets from giving the sh!t pot a good stir in a new forum.
 




Go Gophers

With the exception of a few posters (yes Art you are one of them), this board has many smart and positive posters who are not short-sited. They understand that this program is going to the right direction. I think that Tubby does deserve more credit that some may have given him. Remember, University of Michigan has had two of the best players in the country but failed to perform. How would you feel if you were their fan (yes I know that they beat us 4 times). On the other hand, we had players who were so distracting that were not allowed to even practice with the team. We still made it to the B10 championship game. We are very lucky to have him as a coach. This year, we'll have a young team with some really good veterans. I have a feeling that 20 wins will be repeated.

Go Gophers
 


The football teams wins 30% of their big ten games, what do you think would happen if the basketball team goes 5-13.
 

idagopher said:
Why is this forum so much more positive and uplifting that the Football Forum? Hummmmm. Oh, that's right we have a solid BB coach. I remember now. And he's a bargain. Build that practice facility now and just play football with an HC with the savings, couldn't be any worse.
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How can anything be more negative than Gopher football? In 1960 and 61 they were one of, if not the best team in the country. Since then the program has deteriorated, almost non-stop for 49 years. Deteriorated to the point that North Dakota St. and South Dakota now put better teams on the field than we do.

This descent has gone on through many coaches; some good and some not so good. Coaching would seem to have little to do with it. While wilderness states like Kansas and Nebraska are able to attract top players, for some reason we are not.

Actually basketball has much the same problem. The difference is you only need 2 or 3 outstanding basketball player to have a decent team.

Attracting recruits to Minnesota is the problem. Even a fine coach like Tubby is finding that out.
 



"""Attracting recruits to Minnesota is the problem."""

The main reason for that is that potential recruits read these message boards and are influenced by comments made here by all of our expert analysts.
 


Dr.Don said:
"""Attracting recruits to Minnesota is the problem."""

The main reason for that is that potential recruits read these message boards and are influenced by comments made here by all of our expert analysts.
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Are you being serious right now?
 

Dr.Don said:
"""Attracting recruits to Minnesota is the problem."""

The main reason for that is that potential recruits read these message boards and are influenced by comments made here by all of our expert analysts.
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Do you disagree with what I said or are you saying, I can't say that?

What a useless thing this board would be if we all have to confine ourselves to glowing, positive remarks.
 

figi said:
How can anything be more negative than Gopher football? In 1960 and 61 they were one of, if not the best team in the country. Since then the program has deteriorated, almost non-stop for 49 years. Deteriorated to the point that North Dakota St. and South Dakota now put better teams on the field than we do.
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While I won't disagree with you on the above. In 1958 and 59 Coach Warmath was being hung in effigy on campus and people wanted him gone. Obviously a national championship and Rose Bowl win can make a big difference in people's minds.
 

figi said:
How can anything be more negative than Gopher football? In 1960 and 61 they were one of, if not the best team in the country. Since then the program has deteriorated, almost non-stop for 49 years. Deteriorated to the point that North Dakota St. and South Dakota now put better teams on the field than we do.

This descent has gone on through many coaches; some good and some not so good. Coaching would seem to have little to do with it. While wilderness states like Kansas and Nebraska are able to attract top players, for some reason we are not.
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Do you honestly not know the #1 difference between the lanscape of college football in 1960 and 2010? There is a single glaring difference that greatly benefited the U of M football program.
 

Were you reading this board last season?? It got pretty negative because of bad losses early in the season, Royce issues, Trevor issues, Nolen issues, everybody worrying if we would make the tourney. Also the constant worrying about Tubby taking every opening job that became available got real annoying.
 

NorthernVaGopher said:
While I won't disagree with you on the above. In 1958 and 59 Coach Warmath was being hung in effigy on campus and people wanted him gone. Obviously a national championship and Rose Bowl win can make a big difference in people's minds.


You're certainly right about that, and if we win a national championship in the next few years, is my face going to be red.
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idagopher said:
Why is this forum so much more positive and uplifting that the Football Forum? Hummmmm. Oh, that's right we have a solid BB coach. I remember now. And he's a bargain. Build that practice facility now and just play football with an HC with the savings, couldn't be any worse.
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Agreed. Tubby is what could be classified as a "pro" at high-level college basketball. We went from Monson (amateur) to Tubby (pro). Even though the Board here gets negative, overall the program is moving in a positive direction. The same obviously can't be said for football; the program there is in complete and utter disarray. If I was a serious football fan of the U (I'm not), I would be seriously worried about the program having been set back a decade with Brewster at the helm.
 


Juicer said:
Agreed. Tubby is what could be classified as a "pro" at high-level college basketball. We went from Monson (amateur) to Tubby (pro). Even though the Board here gets negative, overall the program is moving in a positive direction. The same obviously can't be said for football; the program there is in complete and utter disarray. If I was a serious football fan of the U (I'm not), I would be seriously worried about the program having been set back a decade with Brewster at the helm.
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Art Vandelay said:
Do you honestly not know the #1 difference between the lanscape of college football in 1960 and 2010? There is a single glaring difference that greatly benefited the U of M football program.
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If you believe many of those on the football board, it's the big, bad, evil Vikings, and if we could just get them to move away, it will become 1960 again.

However, I believe you are probably referring to the admissions policies of certain univerities in the SEC and other conferences and how they have changed since 1960....
 


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