Why was Trevor arrested?

[GopherinPhilly]

In the article written in the Strib..."Mbakwe's lawyer, Laura Nolen of Berndt Law Office in Minneapolis, said this is the first time she's heard of police arresting someone for allegedly violating a restraining order without violence. She said she worked as a domestic violence attorney for 13 years."

After reading the message, knowing that there was never any violence in the original restraining order and that there was no violence or personal contact this time...why did the Mpls police run out and arrest Trevor at his home? I doubt they could have gotten to him faster if he was wanted for murder...rather than a misdameaner bench citation.

Does anyone have any experience with the MPLS police in a matter like this?

I know here in Philly they would have sent him a citation in the mail with an order to appear in family court (in about 6 months) and that would have been that.

 

[J35Jazz]

In the article written in the Strib..."Mbakwe's lawyer, Laura Nolen of Berndt Law Office in Minneapolis, said this is the first time she's heard of police arresting someone for allegedly violating a restraining order without violence. She said she worked as a domestic violence attorney for 13 years."

After reading the message, knowing that there was never any violence in the original restraining order and that there was no violence or personal contact this time...why did the Mpls police run out and arrest Trevor at his home? I doubt they could have gotten to him faster if he was wanted for murder...rather than a misdameaner bench citation.

Does anyone have any experience with the MPLS police in a matter like this?

I know here in Philly they would have sent him a citation in the mail with an order to appear in family court (in about 6 months) and that would have been that.

I have been an attorney for over 25 years and Laura Nolen is living in a dream if she never saw an arrest for violation of an HRO under these circumstances. Second, Trevor was arrested for a felony assault which was pending at the time the HRO was issued here. Third, if the defendant has a home address, that is where the police go first. Last, no one knows what the woman told the police or what the woman told the judge regarding her problems with Tevor. It was serious enough to for the court to issue the order predicated on harrassment.

My experience with the MLPS is limited but worked with Chicago police often enough to see these cases pop up and this is not that unusual.

 

[CP Gopher]

She is Trevor's attorney, that's why she questions his arrest.
Does anyone else think this isn't going to end well?

 

[BarnBurner]

She is Trevor's attorney, that's why she questions his arrest.
Does anyone else think this isn't going to end well?

"White girl, give her the phone!"

That is what TM said, per the ST article.

Boot him now.

 

[jmag21]

"White girl, give her the phone!"

That is what TM said, per the ST article.

Boot him now.

That's what TM ALLEGEDLY said in 2009, before he was a member of the basketball team. Either you have a major ax to grind, or you didn't read the article carefully. Unlike you, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, so I'd simply suggest you read more thoroughly next time.

 

[BarnBurner]

That's what TM ALLEGEDLY said in 2009, before he was a member of the basketball team. Either you have a major ax to grind, or you didn't read the article carefully. Unlike you, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, so I'd simply suggest you read more thoroughly next time.

You are correct - allegedly. No axe, only facts.

I dont care when he said it, if he said it it shows true colors. But if it makes you feel better to think about it in the context that he wasnt a member of the team, outstanding!

 

[From the Barn]

Wait, white girl give her the phone is that bad? Really? Kick him off the team for THAT? oy.

 

[Blizzard]

"White girl, give her the phone!"

That is what TM said, per the ST article.

Boot him now.

I hope I'm not the only person who doesn't have a problem with what Trevor said. It doesn't bother me in the least.

Edit - agree with what FTB said as well.

 

[jjgopher]

I have been an attorney for over 25 years and Laura Nolen is living in a dream if she never saw an arrest for violation of an HRO under these circumstances. Second, Trevor was arrested for a felony assault which was pending at the time the HRO was issued here. Third, if the defendant has a home address, that is where the police go first. Last, no one knows what the woman told the police or what the woman told the judge regarding her problems with Tevor. It was serious enough to for the court to issue the order predicated on harrassment.

My experience with the MLPS is limited but worked with Chicago police often enough to see these cases pop up and this is not that unusual.

Oh so you're a lawyer? That explains alot

 

[507Gopher]

"White girl, give her the phone!"

That is what TM said, per the ST article.

Boot him now.

Because none of us have ever possibly said anything more stupid than that...

I guess my horse isn't so high, or maybe im more realistic with myself and other people.

Athletes aren't role models, on the rare occasions when they are though, it's great and good for them.

 

[Section201]

hmmmm

I personally do not care for this kind of "phraseology".

Is, "hey, black boy..." appropriate? I don't think so.

In any case it certainly is not worthy of being booted from the team.

IMHO.

 

[KyGopherfan]

He's black, she's white. Of course the cops are going to overreact.

 

[scools12]

"...why did the Mpls police run out and arrest Trevor at his home?"

MPLS Police did not arrest him. This is a St Paul charge and St Paul police contacted the U of M Police Department and they arrested him for St Paul.

 

[GopherinPhilly]

I have been an attorney for over 25 years and Laura Nolen is living in a dream if she never saw an arrest for violation of an HRO under these circumstances. Second, Trevor was arrested for a felony assault which was pending at the time the HRO was issued here. Third, if the defendant has a home address, that is where the police go first. Last, no one knows what the woman told the police or what the woman told the judge regarding her problems with Tevor. It was serious enough to for the court to issue the order predicated on harrassment.

My experience with the MLPS is limited but worked with Chicago police often enough to see these cases pop up and this is not that unusual.

Ur a lawer? No wonder I hate everything you have written so far.

 

[ProfessorBum]

In the article written in the Strib..."Mbakwe's lawyer, Laura Nolen of Berndt Law Office in Minneapolis, said this is the first time she's heard of police arresting someone for allegedly violating a restraining order without violence. She said she worked as a domestic violence attorney for 13 years."

After reading the message, knowing that there was never any violence in the original restraining order and that there was no violence or personal contact this time...why did the Mpls police run out and arrest Trevor at his home? I doubt they could have gotten to him faster if he was wanted for murder...rather than a misdameaner bench citation.

Does anyone have any experience with the MPLS police in a matter like this?

I know here in Philly they would have sent him a citation in the mail with an order to appear in family court (in about 6 months) and that would have been that.

Among other subjects, I teach about this element of the criminal code. I can tell you that Minneosta has a "shall arrest" standard for violations of this type of court order. Many officers, and even prosecutors and judges, don't actually expect that an arrest will be made for every minor violation of a restraining order. But the law gives no quarter. Police officers are actually committing a crime themselves when they have probable cause that a restraining order was violated and yet make no arrest. That's the law.

 

[Blizzard]

I personally do not care for this kind of "phraseology".

Is, "hey, black boy..." appropriate? I don't think so.

I don't agree with it either but it would seem, as I've certainly heard those phrases before, that generally they are done in the spirit of humor. Can we know this is true of what Trevor said? I guess not with 100% certainty, but, I would guess it's likely.

My .02 cents.

 

[CP Gopher]

Trevor's pattern of behavior is really disturbing.

 

[sanowai]

Trevor's pattern of behavior is really disturbing.

+1

This seems like one of those domestic situations you will read about a few years down the road and wonder why something wasn't done to prevent it from happening. Hope Trevor smartens up and is able to leave all this behind him from here forward.

 

[scher215]

Trevor's pattern of behavior is really disturbing.

I disagree. What is this pattern?

Two years ago, he handled a break up with an ex he dated from 16-19 VERY poorly, absolutley awful. Most teenagers are distraught after a break up like that, but he took it to far. That was his biggest mistake. This caused a restraining order. He did not contact her once during the two years he thought he was under such order (That's good, smart, mature behavior actually after the horrible break up behavior). He believed (and stupidly did not check on it) that the order expired Jan. 1. He sent a facebook message, at 21, to smooth things over and wish her well and she called police. Do I think she overreacted? Yeah, but I do not know all of the facts either. The one thing I know for sure is what HUGE mistake Trevor made.

I am still, however, unsure how the above incidents equate to a "pattern"?

 

[Mulligan]

+1

This seems like one of those domestic situations you will read about a few years down the road and wonder why something wasn't done to prevent it from happening. Hope Trevor smartens up and is able to leave all this behind him from here forward.

We don't know that, but there is incident upon incident of judges, police, social workers, etc. being burned because they weren't aggressive enough where a person had a restraining order against them. You often just don't know what level the threat of violence is at just as we don't know if the woman in question really feels threatened or if she just used this to get back at Trevor. I appreciate the take of the couple of people who actually have some expertise in this area. Point is, officials are going to be cautious. I'd also like to hear from somebody with expertise in domestic violence and get his or her take on Trevor's original message. How harmless was it or does it fit a pattern in these types of situation? I really don't know, but it makes me uneasy. As does the tweeting after before somebody finally gagged him.

Despite Trevor making me uneasy, I'm enough of a hypocrite to be glad it was resolved this way because he's a hell of a player we can ill afford to lose.

 

[scher215]

+1

This seems like one of those domestic situations you will read about a few years down the road and wonder why something wasn't done to prevent it from happening. Hope Trevor smartens up and is able to leave all this behind him from here forward.

Don't those situations usually involve drinking and a pattern of violence? I haven't seen either of those from Trevor ...

 

[Silvio]

His lawyer isn't very good if she couldn't get him to understand that he probably shouldn't comment on twitter about his violation.

 

[scher215]

We don't know that, but there is incident upon incident of judges, police, social workers, etc. being burned because they weren't aggressive enough where a person had a restraining order against them. You often just don't know what level the threat of violence is at just as we don't know if the woman in question really feels threatened or if she just used this to get back at Trevor. I appreciate the take of the couple of people who actually have some expertise in this area. Point is, officials are going to be cautious. I'd also like to hear from somebody with expertise in domestic violence and get his or her take on Trevor's original message. How harmless was it or does it fit a pattern in these types of situation? I really don't know, but it makes me uneasy. As does the tweeting after before somebody finally gagged him.

Despite Trevor making me uneasy, I'm enough of a hypocrite to be glad it was resolved this way because he's a hell of a player we can ill afford to lose.

Being someone who is of Trevors age/generation (I am 22), while I do not agree with that he was tweeting immediatley after (as a public figure, need to show restraint there) I understand why he did. When you date someone for three years (and to a 16-19 year old, that is a LONG time) you expect them to always care about you, etc. no matter what stuff happens (Granted, a restraining order should give a bigger hint) Anyways, Trevor felt he was trying to be nice and bury the hatchet and make peace and got burned, bad. And when that happens, the first instinct (as I have felt as well) is to go to facebook or twitter and start commenting on it and call out that person and be upset about it. Making the tweats and statuses taking little jabs at that person, only to calm down later and realize you were dumb and then delete them and apologize or let it go.

The post-practice twitter incident isn't a "Trevor is crazy!" thing its a, that is what today's young adults and teenagers do thing.

I am not sure how many 16-22 year old friends any of you have any facebook or twitter, but it is not uncommon to see tweets and statuses like those Trevor posted, especially following break ups, fights, etc.

 

[scher215]

His lawyer isn't very good if she couldn't get him to understand that he probably shouldn't comment on twitter about his violation.

His comments had very little to do with the violation (Other than the waitress tips comments which he smartly took down very shortly after). I saw nothing wrong with his comments other than that one and that he obviously felt betrayed and angry. He felt she only called the cops on him because he plays basketball and wanted the spotlight / to bring him down. That is what he meant with the waitress comment, hopefully now people will feel sorry for her and give her bigger tips (i.e., I hope getting me arrested was worth it to you) granted, a VERY dumb comment and he needs to be off of Twitter for awhile and facebook, but I saw no issue with his other comments, he obviously felt betrayed and that is how people of this generation deal with that, facebook and twitter.

 

[GopherJake]

Making the tweats and statuses taking little jabs at that person......is what today's young adults and teenagers do thing

Here's some advice: After you depart jail on violation of a restraining order, no matter what your age, don't do that.

 

[bga1]

Nolen or Nolan

Is it Linda Nolen or Linda Nolan? That's my biggest concern right now.

 

[scher215]

Here's some advice: After you depart jail on violation of a restraining order, no matter what your age, don't do that.

Oh exactly. I am not saying it was the RIGHT thing to do at all, I am just saying that is why he probably did it. Ask the football team how twitter / facebook can cause you all kinds of problems with regular things. Trevor made the wrong call to tweet about something much more serious right after, but he was frustrated and that was how he wanted to vent about it. Wrong call though, would have been better off with either only a "thanks for the support" tweet, or just not tweeting and talking to his teammates or other friends that he trusts.

 

[GopherinPhilly]

Being someone who is of Trevors age/generation (I am 22), while I do not agree with that he was tweeting immediatley after (as a public figure, need to show restraint there) I understand why he did. When you date someone for three years (and to a 16-19 year old, that is a LONG time) you expect them to always care about you, etc. no matter what stuff happens (Granted, a restraining order should give a bigger hint) Anyways, Trevor felt he was trying to be nice and bury the hatchet and make peace and got burned, bad. And when that happens, the first instinct (as I have felt as well) is to go to facebook or twitter and start commenting on it and call out that person and be upset about it. Making the tweats and statuses taking little jabs at that person, only to calm down later and realize you were dumb and then delete them and apologize or let it go.

The post-practice twitter incident isn't a "Trevor is crazy!" thing its a, that is what today's young adults and teenagers do thing.

I am not sure how many 16-22 year old friends any of you have any facebook or twitter, but it is not uncommon to see tweets and statuses like those Trevor posted, especially following break ups, fights, etc.

16-22...hell, Im 41 and got in a spat with my ex on facebook after she stabbed me in the back...took a couple of hours to calm down and delete the posts...it happens. The new communication tools really change things and we are all learning...cell phones and email changed things first...now its smart phones and social networks...next it will be something else.

 

[CP Gopher]

Ummmmm........how about using a little common sense? It's not rocket science.
And again, we enable an athlete to take no responsibility for their actions.
I'm willing to bet we haven't seen the last of Trevor's legal troubles.
But what the hell? He might get us some wins. Who really cares what happens to him when he's done being a Gopher?

 

[sanowai]

Don't those situations usually involve drinking and a pattern of violence? I haven't seen either of those from Trevor ...

Not saying he is guilty of anything, nor am I saying he will commit a serious violent crime in the future. I just agree that what has transpired over the past year or two is disturbing. I am sure drugs and alcohol are prevalent in many of the cases yes, I would guess they are not present in all of them. Just thinking about the stuff he has been involved in over the past few years makes red stop lights flash in my mind, reads like the beginning of a tragic story.

In the pioneer press article today it says he threatened to harm the "white girl" when she wouldn't hand over the phone to his ex, every abuser had to have had a first time they abused someone. You can call me what you want but even without a pattern of violence I wouldn't want him dating my daughter even if he doesn't drink or do drugs.