Why are coaches leaving Wisconsin? - From ESPN

[MNGoldenGophers1]

There are only 2 differences between the U and UW:
1. Wisconsin does require one additional year of a language over Minnesota.
2. Wisconsin requires 2 years of additional academic or arts classes. This either or, so an applicant can have 2 years of academics and no arts. Minnesota requires one additional year of arts.

There is a third, wi sucks and we don't.

 

[oak_street1981]

Personally, I wish Andersen stayed. I really think he had the potential to trend Wisconsin back to mediocrity once Bielema recruits cycled through. I have a bad feeling Barry will make a better hire this time.[/QUOTE

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I am on the opposite side, and am thrilled the Gary Andersen chafed under the BA meddling and left. GA was the real deal. Jerry Kill might have started to beat UW at times in future years, but vs. Gary Andersen it would have been tougher than under Paul Chryst. I nook note of Gary Andersen's teams at Utah State and was impressed with GA. I always assumed he was a hard core Mormon like the other Utah FBS coaches and would not move from Utah, but that proved not to be correct (regarding his LDS status). I would have been thrilled with a Gary Anderson hire at Minnesota back in 2011.

He lost all of the Bret B defensive talent from 2013 and was able to field a tough defense with mostly different players this year, using a new system. He was a pure running spread type coach at Utah St., but at Wisconsin ran a lot more traditional power football to match his O line and RB strengths.

Any good coach can innovate and adapt, and is not held hostage by his "system". I think the meddling by Barry Alvarez is the 75% of why he left and the rest became a problem later. The guy can recruit, and if he lost 4-5 good players due to an overly selective UW policy, and Alvarez probably gave him no support, I can see how that was a big #2 problem for him. The story line that he went "home" to the west is beyond credible. Logan Utah is almost 800 miles from Oregon State in culturally miles further. Corvallis is not that far from the leftist/ granola belt of western Oregon and not much like conservative Utah. Eastern Utah has a lot more in common with Madison Wisconsin than does Logan Utah. He left because of Barry Alvarez looking over his shoulder daily, and not backing him up.

Nothing lasts forever and when Barry can't hang in there as he approaches his mid 70's there is a chance for failure and decline at Wisconsin. Chryst is not the coach in the dynamic-leader mold that Andersen is, and he will not have huge success in Madison, nor will he fall on his face.

We as Gopher fans should be pleased that Nebraska dumped Bo for a 61 year old, and that UW (BA) drove off Gary Andersen. I think Mike Riley can coach, but his still is 61 years old, and most programs have difficulty processing any change for a couple of years. Riley can probably match the results of Bo Pelini, but he is no Bill Snyder, who had the ability to innovate on offense, bring in loads of JC talent, and coach into his seventies.

Iowa should have filled up the Brinks truck and lured Bill Snyder to Iowa back in 1998. They probably would have played in, and won many BCS bowls in the last 15 years under Snyder, one of the most impressive coaches of the last 25 years. Iowa, especially on coattails of Hayden Fry had a lot more going for it than Kansas State, and probably still is more appealing of a job.

 

[Word]

I get a hoot out of how some of the talking heads (looking at you Gerry DiNardo) are turning this into an UW "academic standards" thing. Give me a break. You'd think Wisconsin was right up there academically with Northwestern, Stanford, Harvard, and Yale listening to DiNardo's blabbering last night on the BTN.

Mason was on Barreiro yesterday and basically said Wisconsin recruits the same low-academic kids as everyone else - and he knew because he was recruiting some of the same kids.

Also - I forgot where I saw it, but I believe the University of Minnesota has a lower acceptance rate than Wisconsin does now.

 

[justthefacts]

We as Gopher fans should be pleased that Nebraska dumped Bo for a 61 year old, and that UW (BA) drove off Gary Andersen. I think Mike Riley can coach, but his still is 61 years old, and most programs have difficulty processing any change for a couple of years. Riley can probably match the results of Bo Pelini, but he is no Bill Snyder, who had the ability to innovate on offense, bring in loads of JC talent, and coach into his seventies.

Iowa should have filled up the Brinks truck and lured Bill Snyder to Iowa back in 1998. They probably would have played in, and won many BCS bowls in the last 15 years under Snyder, one of the most impressive coaches of the last 25 years. Iowa, especially on coattails of Hayden Fry had a lot more going for it than Kansas State, and probably still is more appealing of a job.

In 1998 Bill Snyder was 59.

 

[year of the gopher]

Mason was on Barreiro yesterday and basically said Wisconsin recruits the same low-academic kids as everyone else - and he knew because he was recruiting some of the same kids.

Also - I forgot where I saw it, but I believe the University of Minnesota has a lower acceptance rate than Wisconsin does now.

True on acceptance rates. Wisconsin 51 pct, Minnesota 44 pct., though truthfully the freshman classes at both are about the same profile.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-minnesota-3969

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-wisconsin-3895

 

[maroonedinCA]

The author found one guy who couldn't get in and came to the conclusion that Anderson left because Wisconsin's admission standards would never let him win there despite his record to the contrary.

Pure bullshat, but on a day where we've started another thread full of posters who weren't there telling us what happened in Mankato, can't castigate him for it.

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Rohan Blackwood and Joe Keels were two JuCo players from last year that didn't make the cut, either. I know this because I was hoping MN would make a run at Keels though he's been nothing at Nebraska. Additionally, big time DT prospect from Madison last year had to go to MSU according to the 247 guys because he couldn't get into UW.

Talk is that in general UM and UW are similar admissions standards for general population but they don't ease up for athletes AS much. It's probably not a big difference but as we know with JJ 1 point on an ACT can make a difference.

Who knows and who cares, though. GA is gone and that's good in my opinion. Chryst is an unknown and may fail which seemed unlikely with Andersen.