Who Wins the Whole Enchilada?

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I realize it likely won’t happen, but I hate chalk bets; so Boise it is.

My guess is that they have a better chance to win than ASU vs. Tejas, but it would be amazing if both won.
 

My picks as of now (obviously to change if injury)
Texas v ASU
OSU v Oregon (though this certainly feels like a whoever has the ball last kind of game)
PSU v Boise
ND v GA

TX v Oregon
PSU v ND

ND v Oregon

To me, just too many ways Oregon can score on you and is the same pick I have had since about midseason (got a little worried when Tez Johnson got hurt but he's back now). Don't think any team is "elite" this year (Michigan last year, 2019 LSU, etc) or clearly head and shoulder better than the others, so we may see more chaos this season but to me it feels a bit like the best two teams are playing this weekend with OSU/Oregon. Think TX can beat both of them if they're perfect or OSU/Oregon struggle, but if OSU/Oregon play their best TX cannot hang with them. The other half of the bracket feels very up in the air. ND probably the best team left with Beck done for GA though obviously a ton of athletes on that team. Think whoever wins that game is the other side in the NC game.
 


balds said:
Whoever wins the Big Ten matchup. Clearly the two best teams, in my opinion. It's a shame they have to meet this early. Need to fix it so the 5/6 seeds aren't the most advantageous.
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this is actually a very very interesting take. I don't think you can say necessarily "most" advantageous given you still have to play another game and anything can happen, but yes inherently at least one of those teams is going to get a "weaker" CC as compared with the 1 and 2 seeds who are going to get likely a hot 2nd/3rd place team from the SEC/B10 as their quarter game. Personally I'd be a big fan of the 1 seed plays the lowest remaining seed and so on for 2 reasons:
1: it rewards your top seed with getting the "perceived" better matchup and rewards your regular season and
2: it prevents too much advantage from game planning ahead of time given you in theory would be prepping for 4-8 teams depending on your seed. You know Lanning had been drilling OSUs playbook all week the same as Kirby was just pumping Irish film for GA to get ready (as were boise and asu likely). That's a massive advantage to get 2 weeks to scheme plus rest up. Now that's great for the 2 underdog CCs but I don't love it for the long term as it's a really large grade advantage given we know that there are going to be some very lopsided scores in round 1 due to the inherent nature of there will be some borderline/weaker teams that make the field every year
 


upnorthkid said:
My picks as of now (obviously to change if injury)
Texas v ASU
OSU v Oregon (though this certainly feels like a whoever has the ball last kind of game)
PSU v Boise
ND v GA

TX v Oregon
PSU v ND

ND v Oregon

To me, just too many ways Oregon can score on you and is the same pick I have had since about midseason (got a little worried when Tez Johnson got hurt but he's back now). Don't think any team is "elite" this year (Michigan last year, 2019 LSU, etc) or clearly head and shoulder better than the others, so we may see more chaos this season but to me it feels a bit like the best two teams are playing this weekend with OSU/Oregon. Think TX can beat both of them if they're perfect or OSU/Oregon struggle, but if OSU/Oregon play their best TX cannot hang with them. The other half of the bracket feels very up in the air. ND probably the best team left with Beck done for GA though obviously a ton of athletes on that team. Think whoever wins that game is the other side in the NC game.
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Was going to type my picks but you already did.

Games i am most curious about are Texas vs Arizona state
I’m not actually sure Texas is that good. If it’s not a blowout for Texas…Arizona state I think I would take in a close game. I just don’t know how good Texas is. No way Arizona state blows out Texas. So I have to take Texas.

Boise state hung with oregon early in the year. Would be hugely funny if Franklin lost to Boise atate
 

Going to guess the team with the best defense, which is…I don’t know. I’d like Boise State to go on an insane, unlikely run but yeah thats probably not going to happen.
 

upnorthkid said:
this is actually a very very interesting take. I don't think you can say necessarily "most" advantageous given you still have to play another game and anything can happen, but yes inherently at least one of those teams is going to get a "weaker" CC as compared with the 1 and 2 seeds who are going to get likely a hot 2nd/3rd place team from the SEC/B10 as their quarter game. Personally I'd be a big fan of the 1 seed plays the lowest remaining seed and so on for 2 reasons:
1: it rewards your top seed with getting the "perceived" better matchup and rewards your regular season and
2: it prevents too much advantage from game planning ahead of time given you in theory would be prepping for 4-8 teams depending on your seed. You know Lanning had been drilling OSUs playbook all week the same as Kirby was just pumping Irish film for GA to get ready (as were boise and asu likely). That's a massive advantage to get 2 weeks to scheme plus rest up. Now that's great for the 2 underdog CCs but I don't love it for the long term as it's a really large grade advantage given we know that there are going to be some very lopsided scores in round 1 due to the inherent nature of there will be some borderline/weaker teams that make the field every year
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It’s hard because that would mean the bracket moves. If they’re trying to get ncaa hoops tourney vibes have to be able to print the bracket


I think perhaps the solution is say top 4 conference champs have to be top 8 seeds instead of top 4 seeds.
 

upnorthkid said:
this is actually a very very interesting take. I don't think you can say necessarily "most" advantageous given you still have to play another game and anything can happen, but yes inherently at least one of those teams is going to get a "weaker" CC as compared with the 1 and 2 seeds who are going to get likely a hot 2nd/3rd place team from the SEC/B10 as their quarter game. Personally I'd be a big fan of the 1 seed plays the lowest remaining seed and so on for 2 reasons:
1: it rewards your top seed with getting the "perceived" better matchup and rewards your regular season and
2: it prevents too much advantage from game planning ahead of time given you in theory would be prepping for 4-8 teams depending on your seed. You know Lanning had been drilling OSUs playbook all week the same as Kirby was just pumping Irish film for GA to get ready (as were boise and asu likely). That's a massive advantage to get 2 weeks to scheme plus rest up. Now that's great for the 2 underdog CCs but I don't love it for the long term as it's a really large grade advantage given we know that there are going to be some very lopsided scores in round 1 due to the inherent nature of there will be some borderline/weaker teams that make the field every year
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Plus every year is its own entity. There will be years where the ACC and Big 12 have teams like FSU in 2023 or Clemson in the mid to late 2010's where they produce top five teams and it feels more deserving. Boise a playoff team but not a three seed but this was a year where the ACC had an upset in its CCG and the Big 12 had a ton of parity. Although I would say ASU has been playing really well after a slow start, think they'll be a tougher out for Texas then people think. That should have been the Fiesta bowl and Georgia should be in Atlanta, Boise and Penn State in New Orleans
 



upnorthkid said:
My picks as of now (obviously to change if injury)
Texas v ASU
OSU v Oregon (though this certainly feels like a whoever has the ball last kind of game)
PSU v Boise
ND v GA

TX v Oregon
PSU v ND

ND v Oregon

To me, just too many ways Oregon can score on you and is the same pick I have had since about midseason (got a little worried when Tez Johnson got hurt but he's back now). Don't think any team is "elite" this year (Michigan last year, 2019 LSU, etc) or clearly head and shoulder better than the others, so we may see more chaos this season but to me it feels a bit like the best two teams are playing this weekend with OSU/Oregon. Think TX can beat both of them if they're perfect or OSU/Oregon struggle, but if OSU/Oregon play their best TX cannot hang with them. The other half of the bracket feels very up in the air. ND probably the best team left with Beck done for GA though obviously a ton of athletes on that team. Think whoever wins that game is the other side in the NC game.
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No one is elite this year.

Ohio State and Oregon roll out ultra-talented teams that play bad football.

The teams that play good football have either just flipped over their coaching staffs or the dominant portion of their teams. So they've been in a state of regrouping this year.

In these circumstances, the teams that just roll out talent tend to win.

That's why they had Oregon and Ohio State play one another in this round. They don't want an all-B1G championship. And they know that's what would happen absent engineering that out of the realm of possibility.
 

I feel like the winner of the Oregon and Ohio St game has the best chance. Ohio St looks like they're peaking at the right time and Oregon beat them last time around. Sounds a little Big Ten centric but think the third best team left might be Penn St.
 

touchdownvikings said:
No one is elite this year.

Ohio State and Oregon roll out ultra-talented teams that play bad football.

The teams that play good football have either just flipped over their coaching staffs or the dominant portion of their teams. So they've been in a state of regrouping this year.

In these circumstances, the teams that just roll out talent tend to win.

That's why they had Oregon and Ohio State play one another in this round. They don't want an all-B1G championship. And they know that's what would happen absent engineering that out of the realm of possibility.
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Plus the rematch would have happened in Indy had OSU not face planted against Michigan. Winner would have been the one seed loser probably the fifth and a good chance round three would have been in the semis. OSU deserved to be eighth or ninth after that loss and Oregon the only logical choice for the one seed. Pen State has a pretty manageable path to the final so me may get an all big ten title anyways
 

touchdownvikings said:
No one is elite this year.

Ohio State and Oregon roll out ultra-talented teams that play bad football.

The teams that play good football have either just flipped over their coaching staffs or the dominant portion of their teams. So they've been in a state of regrouping this year.

In these circumstances, the teams that just roll out talent tend to win.

That's why they had Oregon and Ohio State play one another in this round. They don't want an all-B1G championship. And they know that's what would happen absent engineering that out of the realm of possibility.
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Well they risk it because they put penn state on the side of a Georgia team that is using their backup QB, a notre dame team that lost to northern Illinois, and Boise state
 



I don’t see anyone beating Oregon. Georgia with a back up QB seems unlikely. Penn St hasn’t impressed me. ASU is peaking, but the level of competition probably getting too high for them at this point. Boise State, nope. Texas and Ohio St maybe. If there’s a sleeper it may be Notre Dame.
 

Not a lot of love for Texas here. If Ewers steps up and plays solidly going forward, I think they can be there at the end. Oregon plays unbelievably fast, but they are more physical than they sometimes appear. I think the winner of that semi-final (if it is indeed does occur) wins it all.

I think Georgia without Beck isn't going to score (and I don't think that much of Beck). I'm not a Riley Leonard guy, but Notre Dame should win that game. I will take Penn State over Boise State and Penn State/Notre Dame should be a battle.
 

Oregon can score at will against seemingly anyone. They've been tested against 3 of the teams in the playoffs.
I want to see Boise State advance. I enjoy seeing smaller schools hold their own against powerhouses. Jeanty is such a fun player to watch
 

Maybe another interesting question is what we’d have with the old two or four team playoff.

The savants who always seem to know who the best teams are may have trouble polishing the crystal ball this year. Popular bet has to be Oregon or Ohio State. Is that where the money is flowing?
 


Notre Dame beats Ohio State in the national title to win it all. To get there, though, they’ll have to win two NY6 games when they haven’t won a single one in decades so who knows how likely that is LOL
 

Some guy said:
It’s hard because that would mean the bracket moves. If they’re trying to get ncaa hoops tourney vibes have to be able to print the bracket


I think perhaps the solution is say top 4 conference champs have to be top 8 seeds instead of top 4 seeds.
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If they want NCAA hoops vibes, the conference champions get in, but the committee seeds the tournament.
 

UST82Gopher said:
If they want NCAA hoops vibes, the conference champions get in, but the committee seeds the tournament.
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They already have it in current format
The lower seeds are going to win games in this format
 

If Ohio State remembers that, no, you don't need to run the ball to set up the pass, then they're the best team.
 

50PoundHead said:
Not a lot of love for Texas here. If Ewers steps up and plays solidly going forward, I think they can be there at the end. Oregon plays unbelievably fast, but they are more physical than they sometimes appear. I think the winner of that semi-final (if it is indeed does occur) wins it all.

I think Georgia without Beck isn't going to score (and I don't think that much of Beck). I'm not a Riley Leonard guy, but Notre Dame should win that game. I will take Penn State over Boise State and Penn State/Notre Dame should be a battle.
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TX has turned into a bit of an enigma. Before Clemson, TXs best win is... TX A&M? Michigan? then they choked away a game that should've been spoon fed to them against GA. When Ewers is on they're very good when he can get the ball sprayed all over the field and on time. When he's off (or jittery in the pocket), TXs whole offense falls apart and Bond being out at WR hurts them more than people acknowledge as he's their most dynamic wide out. The defense has seemed legit all year, but got torched by the first halfways decent passing team they'd seen since GA (who crushed them with Beck throwing 3 picks). Maybe it's just the Kirby has Sarks number?

Agreed 100% on Oregon's physicality. They can run the ball between the tackles much better than in years past and are not just a jet/speed team.

GA I think will be interesting. Their WRs have been rough comparatively without Bowers and their new QB is much more a dual threat. They may run a very different style of game but envision that game will be quite low scoring.
 

NateDawgUM said:
If Ohio State remembers that, no, you don't need to run the ball to set up the pass, then they're the best team.
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interestingly enough, the first time they played Oregon they actually ran it all over them in the first half then forgot to keep running in the 2nd. think it's a mix that you want to control the ball against Oregon and take them out of their gameplan but yeah their best offense is throwing the ball. To me the game all hinges on Howard, who had one of his best games of the season last time they played. If he plays like he did against Michigan or PSU, Oregon will win by double digits.
 

Feels like this is all setting up for Ryan Day to get the last laugh.
 

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