Which of the three Heisman Trophy finalists will win the coveted award?

Which of the three Heisman Trophy finalists will win the coveted award?

  • Marcus Mariota

    Votes: 63 95.5%

  • melvin gordon

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Amari Cooper

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Total voters
    66
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Which of the three Heisman Trophy finalists will win the coveted award?
 

Mariota, and it won't be close.
 


Gordon had 3 very pedestrian games to close out the year if you're comparing him to other Heisman candidates. 31 rush for 200 yards (6.5/att) vs Iowa (88 of them on one play), 29 rushes for 155 yards vs MN (5.2/att), and 26 for 76 yards vs OSU in the CCG. I'm not saying a 200 yard game by itself is necessarily "pedestrian," but anyone who watched that game knows he wasn't a factor in the game the way he had been all season long in breaking opponents' backs, clearly the best player on the field, etc. Meanwhile, Mariota put up his great-to-insane numbers throughout the last few games of the season.

If the year ended on 11/16, Gordon wins it big time. Now, I think he's a fairly distant #2.
 



RailBaronYarr said:
Gordon had 3 very pedestrian games to close out the year if you're comparing him to other Heisman candidates. 31 rush for 200 yards (6.5/att) vs Iowa (88 of them on one play), 29 rushes for 155 yards vs MN (5.2/att), and 26 for 76 yards vs OSU in the CCG. I'm not saying a 200 yard game by itself is necessarily "pedestrian," but anyone who watched that game knows he wasn't a factor in the game the way he had been all season long in breaking opponents' backs, clearly the best player on the field, etc. Meanwhile, Mariota put up his great-to-insane numbers throughout the last few games of the season.

If the year ended on 11/16, Gordon wins it big time. Now, I think he's a fairly distant #2.
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Yep, for a non-QB to win it, you have to put up ridiculous number down the stretch. Having a bad game in the biggest game of the season put the nail in the coffin in my opinion. If he blew up for 200+ against Ohio St., I think the vote could be very close.
 






Hopefully, this year's winner will bring something positive to the image of the Heisman rather than rape and debauchery.
 






It was not that long ago that this was a very "political" award. Similar to the old "east" vs. "west" when judging figure skating, a typical Heisman voter would often align themselves with their regional pick first. A midwesterner would go with the Big 10, the south with SEC or ACC, etc. And of course the Notre Dame hype machine would ramp up into max overdrive if they had a potential candidate (which probably cost Paul Giel a Heisman in 1953). We did not have 24/7 sports highlights available, so you one often went with the familiar. (If you were Sid Hartman, who would you vote for?)

That being said, Mariota will win, but it may not be the total landslide. The other thing working against him is the old east coast bias. Many voters from the east of the Mississippi depend on the highlight reels for their west coast sports - it is not always easy for someone in the eastern time zone to stay up until 1 am and watch a PAC-10 game.
 

RailBaronYarr said:
Gordon had 3 very pedestrian games to close out the year if you're comparing him to other Heisman candidates. 31 rush for 200 yards (6.5/att) vs Iowa (88 of them on one play), 29 rushes for 155 yards vs MN (5.2/att), and 26 for 76 yards vs OSU in the CCG. I'm not saying a 200 yard game by itself is necessarily "pedestrian," but anyone who watched that game knows he wasn't a factor in the game the way he had been all season long in breaking opponents' backs, clearly the best player on the field, etc. Meanwhile, Mariota put up his great-to-insane numbers throughout the last few games of the season.

If the year ended on 11/16, Gordon wins it big time. Now, I think he's a fairly distant #2.
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I actually thought going into the conference championship weekend Gordon had a great shot. Ohio State shutting him down on National TV derailed any chance he had. The fact that we consider his last three games pedestrian is a testament to how good he is. He had a 200 yard game avg 6.5 per att and a 155 yards avg 5.2 per att in two of those games. Gordon is freakishly good. I know in the Gopher game there weren't too many of his carries that I wasn't nervous.

I think Mariotta wins in a landslide now.
 

I just accidentally voted for Cooper - so that's the 2nd of 2 votes for him. It's not the question of who will win, it's will MM break Bush's record for % of votes.
 

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RailBaronYarr said:
Gordon had 3 very pedestrian games to close out the year if you're comparing him to other Heisman candidates. 31 rush for 200 yards (6.5/att) vs Iowa (88 of them on one play), 29 rushes for 155 yards vs MN (5.2/att), and 26 for 76 yards vs OSU in the CCG. I'm not saying a 200 yard game by itself is necessarily "pedestrian," but anyone who watched that game knows he wasn't a factor in the game the way he had been all season long in breaking opponents' backs, clearly the best player on the field, etc. Meanwhile, Mariota put up his great-to-insane numbers throughout the last few games of the season.

If the year ended on 11/16, Gordon wins it big time. Now, I think he's a fairly distant #2.
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If a lot of Heisman votes had already been cast, then Gordon may well win. Mariota is definitely the favorite.
 


Didn't they used to have 5 finalists? I haven't watched in awhile.
 

RailBaronYarr said:
Gordon had 3 very pedestrian games to close out the year if you're comparing him to other Heisman candidates. 31 rush for 200 yards (6.5/att) vs Iowa (88 of them on one play), 29 rushes for 155 yards vs MN (5.2/att), and 26 for 76 yards vs OSU in the CCG. I'm not saying a 200 yard game by itself is necessarily "pedestrian," but anyone who watched that game knows he wasn't a factor in the game the way he had been all season long in breaking opponents' backs, clearly the best player on the field, etc. Meanwhile, Mariota put up his great-to-insane numbers throughout the last few games of the season.

If the year ended on 11/16, Gordon wins it big time. Now, I think he's a fairly distant #2.
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I never realized the Heisman was based on the last few games of a season and not the totality of an individuals performances. :rolleyes:

Mariota has a few "pedestrian" performances during the year too.
 

MDGopherFan said:
I never realized the Heisman was based on the last few games of a season and not the totality of an individuals performances. :rolleyes:

Mariota has a few "pedestrian" performances during the year too.
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Which of Mariota's games do you consider pedestrian?

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Pass Rush Rece
Rk Date School Opponent Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD
1 2014-08-30 Oregon South Dakota W 14 20 70.0 267 3 0 231.6 6 43 7.2 1
2 2014-09-06 Oregon Michigan State W 17 28 60.7 318 3 0 191.5 9 42 4.7 0
3 2014-09-13 Oregon Wyoming W 19 23 82.6 221 2 0 192.0 5 71 14.2 2
4 2014-09-20 Oregon Washington State W 21 25 84.0 329 5 0 260.5 13 58 4.5 0
5 2014-10-02 Oregon Arizona L 20 32 62.5 276 2 0 155.6 9 1 0.1 0 1 26 26.0 1
6 2014-10-11 Oregon UCLA W 17 27 63.0 210 2 0 152.7 7 75 10.7 2
7 2014-10-18 Oregon Washington W 24 33 72.7 336 2 0 178.3 7 -1 -0.1 0
8 2014-10-24 Oregon N California W 18 30 60.0 326 5 1 199.6 6 36 6.0 0
9 2014-11-01 Oregon Stanford W 19 30 63.3 258 2 1 150.9 9 85 9.4 2
10 2014-11-08 Oregon Utah W 17 29 58.6 239 3 0 162.0 18 114 6.3 1
11 2014-11-22 Oregon Colorado W 24 32 75.0 323 3 0 190.7 8 73 9.1 1
12 2014-11-29 Oregon Oregon State W 19 25 76.0 367 4 0 252.1 10 39 3.9 2
13 2014-12-05 Oregon N Arizona W 25 38 65.8 303 2 0 150.1 10 33 3.3 3
13 Games 254 372 68.3 3773 38 2 186.1 117 669 5.7 14 1 26 26.0 1
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Even in his worst two passing efforts yardage wise, he still accounted for four total touchdowns each game. Mariota had a phenomenal year, and I fail to see really an down games. The only game of his that I got to watch was the Arizona game, and in that game he did seem to struggle early on, but came back and ended with an excellent game.
 

Nate said:
Which of Mariota's games do you consider pedestrian?

<PRE>
Pass Rush Rece
Rk Date School Opponent Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD
1 2014-08-30 Oregon South Dakota W 14 20 70.0 267 3 0 231.6 6 43 7.2 1
2 2014-09-06 Oregon Michigan State W 17 28 60.7 318 3 0 191.5 9 42 4.7 0
3 2014-09-13 Oregon Wyoming W 19 23 82.6 221 2 0 192.0 5 71 14.2 2
4 2014-09-20 Oregon Washington State W 21 25 84.0 329 5 0 260.5 13 58 4.5 0
5 2014-10-02 Oregon Arizona L 20 32 62.5 276 2 0 155.6 9 1 0.1 0 1 26 26.0 1
6 2014-10-11 Oregon UCLA W 17 27 63.0 210 2 0 152.7 7 75 10.7 2
7 2014-10-18 Oregon Washington W 24 33 72.7 336 2 0 178.3 7 -1 -0.1 0
8 2014-10-24 Oregon N California W 18 30 60.0 326 5 1 199.6 6 36 6.0 0
9 2014-11-01 Oregon Stanford W 19 30 63.3 258 2 1 150.9 9 85 9.4 2
10 2014-11-08 Oregon Utah W 17 29 58.6 239 3 0 162.0 18 114 6.3 1
11 2014-11-22 Oregon Colorado W 24 32 75.0 323 3 0 190.7 8 73 9.1 1
12 2014-11-29 Oregon Oregon State W 19 25 76.0 367 4 0 252.1 10 39 3.9 2
13 2014-12-05 Oregon N Arizona W 25 38 65.8 303 2 0 150.1 10 33 3.3 3
13 Games 254 372 68.3 3773 38 2 186.1 117 669 5.7 14 1 26 26.0 1
</PRE>

Even in his worst two passing efforts yardage wise, he still accounted for four total touchdowns each game. Mariota had a phenomenal year, and I fail to see really an down games. The only game of his that I got to watch was the Arizona game, and in that game he did seem to struggle early on, but came back and ended with an excellent game.
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I was using "pedestrian" in the same sense as the prior poster use it to describe a Gordon 200 and 155 yd rushing game, which I found a humorous claim. It was tongue and cheek.
 

MDGopherFan said:
I never realized the Heisman was based on the last few games of a season and not the totality of an individuals performances. :rolleyes:

Mariota has a few "pedestrian" performances during the year too.
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Just like your review at work is supposed to be for the full year. If you have a big screw up the day after your review it is much less likely to majorly impact your next review than if it happened the week before your review was written (assuming it wasn't written AFTER you were force ranked which doesn't really ever happen at large companies).

People are impacted by recent things more than the same thing several weeks prior. It's a fact of life. Gordon will likely not even be close to winning because of it.
 

Lakeville Goldy said:
Just like your review at work is supposed to be for the full year. If you have a big screw up the day after your review it is much less likely to majorly impact your next review than if it happened the week before your review was written (assuming it wasn't written AFTER you were force ranked which doesn't really ever happen at large companies).

People are impacted by recent things more than the same thing several weeks prior. It's a fact of life. Gordon will likely not even be close to winning because of it.
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Boy... Hate to work where you work.

So by that logic if a baseball player breaks the home run, rbi, and hits record for a single season but does it in the initial 140 games of the season then tapers off and doesn't add to them in the final 25 games he should not be considered for the mvp award. Hmm... Interesting logic
 

MDGopherFan said:
Boy... Hate to work where you work.

So by that logic if a baseball player breaks the home run, rbi, and hits record for a single season but does it in the initial 140 games of the season then tapers off and doesn't add to them in the final 25 games he should not be considered for the mvp award. Hmm... Interesting logic
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His belief is rooted in actually psychology. People tend to remember things from the beginning and end of a time period and don't recall the vast majority of the 'middle'.
 

maroonedinCA said:
His belief is rooted in actually psychology. People tend to remember things from the beginning and end of a time period and don't recall the vast majority of the 'middle'.
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Well since psychology wasn't the focus of my degrees, I will take your word for it
 

MDGopherFan said:
Well since psychology wasn't the focus of my degrees, I will take your word for it
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I take it you're being sarcastic with me and you're actually in the field? And if so I'll take my armchair psychology and shove it!:p
 

maroonedinCA said:
I take it you're being sarcastic with me and you're actually in the field? And if so I'll take my armchair psychology and shove it!:p
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Psych was one of many majors I dabbled in during my undergrad while trying to figure out what the heck I wanted to do but it isn't the focus of my degrees. I've three in the field of biology and one in business. So I'm pretty clueless about psych. Had I stuck with it a bit longer maybe I could have actually figured out how to parent pre-teens!
 

MDGopherFan said:
Psych was one of many majors I dabbled in during my undergrad while trying to figure out what the heck I wanted to do but it isn't the focus of my degrees. I've three in the field of biology and one in business. So I'm pretty clueless about psych. Had I stuck with it a bit longer maybe I could have actually figured out how to parent pre-teens!
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Although I don't have children from a distance I can attest to the fact that nobody has figured out how to parent pre-teens.

Additionally, your psyche credentials are better than mine. A solid B in entry level and that was it for me.
 

maroonedinCA said:
Although I don't have children from a distance I can attest to the fact that nobody has figured out how to parent pre-teens.

Additionally, your psyche credentials are better than mine. A solid B in entry level and that was it for me.
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Nah... I did two semesters of it and frequently signed up to be a guinea pig test subject for psych grad students for beer money. Not sure that makes me any more qualified than you!

Cheers, friend!
 

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