Despite getting a ridiculous amount of money for being fired, isn't being fired by ND kind of a kiss of death? Why would anyone with a desire to coach for a career want to take that job knowing its their last? The guy from Cincy is foolish to even interview. Great for Cncy recruiting at this point.
where have former ND coaches gone?
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Lou Holtz had some decent success at South Carolina for a bit. He brought a 1-10 team to the Outback Bowl in 2 years (beating tOSU), and won 9 games the following season.
Willingham immedietly got a job at Washington, but he did absolutely horrid. I'm sure Weiss will find a job in the NFL. Bob Davie is probably the only coach to never coach again.
Willingham immedietly got a job at Washington, but he did absolutely horrid. I'm sure Weiss will find a job in the NFL. Bob Davie is probably the only coach to never coach again.
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I was going to suggest Gerry Faust as well. Or did he end up in the MAC somewhere?
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I think Gerry Faust coached the Akron Zips for a couple years.
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Holtz only left so he wouldn't have more wins than Rockne. Not wise for Notre Dame, if they want coaches to leave if they are successful enough to approach Rockne's win total, that means they start over again with someone who might not be as successful.
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This is a case of confusing causation with correlation, in that these guys (Davie, Willingham, etc.) were not good coaches before they went there, so why would they be after they left? Further, it's not even accurate. The only guy to have been fired by ND and never coach again (at least so far) is Davie. I wouldn't exactly characterize it a "coach's graveyard" based on the experience of one coach who should've never even been the head coach there anyway.
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The Notre Dame coaching formula is very, very simple
Since Leahy, there has been one sustainable quality that determines success as head coach
at Notre Dame: Extensive major college head coach experience.
Ara Parseghian had been successful for years at Northwestern, and had been coaching college
ball for several years before that.
Dan Devine had been ultra-successful at Missouri, and in addition to coaching the Packers,
he had several years of general college coaching.
Lou Holtz had successful stints at William & Mary, NC State, Arkansas and Minnesota,
as well as several years as an assistant before heading to South Bend.
These three coaches each won National titles at Notre Dame.
Those that did not do quite so well: Joe Kuharich, Gerry Faust, Ty Willingham, Bob Davie,
and Charlie Weis simply did not have the extensive major college head coaching experience
that the job requires in South Bend. The NFL does not prepare you, high school ball does
not prepare you, assistant coaching does not prepare you, and minimal years as a head
coach will not do the trick either.
If ND goes with somebody out of the NFL, or somebody that has been a long-time assistant
someplace, they'll be going through the same thing in 3-5 years, mark my words.
However, if they choose a successful major college head coach with many years of
head coaching experience, Notre Dame will once again become a force in major college
football- almost guaranteed.
That's why Brian Kelly makes sense for them.
Since Leahy, there has been one sustainable quality that determines success as head coach
at Notre Dame: Extensive major college head coach experience.
Ara Parseghian had been successful for years at Northwestern, and had been coaching college
ball for several years before that.
Dan Devine had been ultra-successful at Missouri, and in addition to coaching the Packers,
he had several years of general college coaching.
Lou Holtz had successful stints at William & Mary, NC State, Arkansas and Minnesota,
as well as several years as an assistant before heading to South Bend.
These three coaches each won National titles at Notre Dame.
Those that did not do quite so well: Joe Kuharich, Gerry Faust, Ty Willingham, Bob Davie,
and Charlie Weis simply did not have the extensive major college head coaching experience
that the job requires in South Bend. The NFL does not prepare you, high school ball does
not prepare you, assistant coaching does not prepare you, and minimal years as a head
coach will not do the trick either.
If ND goes with somebody out of the NFL, or somebody that has been a long-time assistant
someplace, they'll be going through the same thing in 3-5 years, mark my words.
However, if they choose a successful major college head coach with many years of
head coaching experience, Notre Dame will once again become a force in major college
football- almost guaranteed.
That's why Brian Kelly makes sense for them.