Where do you think the gophers will finish in B10

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Since I predicted an undefeated season, I suppose the worst they can do is a tie for First in the Big Ten with either Michigan or Indiana.
 

I think outside of OSU we're looking at some very close teams. One or two wins can mean anywhere from 2nd to 9th. I'll take a surprise 4th place finish.
 











7th.

I wouldn't be shocked by anything from 4th to 11th. I would be shocked by anything above 4th.
 






I'm not sure the Gophers are any better or any worse than last year so I'll say 2-6 or 3-5 (8th or 9th)

I will say that we have 4 non-conference games and I wouldn't call the Gophers a clear favorite it any of them. Though, now that Dasher is out they should be the clear favorite in the opener.

Best case, IMO, they go 2-2 non-conference.

I think the Gophers have a shot at beating NW,Ill,Purdue and Michigan State. Chances are that they don't win all 4 of them. I see them going 2-2 or 3-1 there.

So 4-8 maybe 5-7 overall, IMO.

It's a sad state when we can't count on wins at Northern Illinois, SD and Middle Tennessee.
 

6th behind OSU, PSU, IA, WI and MSU.
 

mcrow said:
I'm not sure the Gophers are any better or any worse than last year so I'll say 2-6 or 3-5 (8th or 9th)

I will say that we have 4 non-conference games and I wouldn't call the Gophers a clear favorite it any of them. Though, now that Dasher is out they should be the clear favorite in the opener.

Best case, IMO, they go 2-2 non-conference.

I think the Gophers have a shot at beating NW,Ill,Purdue and Michigan State. Chances are that they don't win all 4 of them. I see them going 2-2 or 3-1 there.

So 4-8 maybe 5-7 overall, IMO.

It's a sad state when we can't count on wins at Northern Illinois, SD and Middle Tennessee.
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I'm not following your logic. You think we will go 2-1 against NI, SD, MTSU, when 2 of 3 are at home, and then think it is possible to go 3-1 in the B10 against MSU, NW, Purdue, and Ill when 3 of 4 are on the road? I know the gap between BCS and non-BCS is closer than ever, but this is asinine. If we're good enough to go 3-1 against the B10 schools, we should likely go 3-0 outside of USC in the non-conference schedule. If we go 2-1 against NI, SD, MTSU, then 1-3 against the 4 B10 schools mentioned is very likely. Barring fluke game upsets, I have a hard time calling a 4-5 win season. I'm not saying it is impossible, but if you look at a computer ranking and compare it with our opponents, there could be a larger than usual number of upsets, going either way... Our toughest games in the non-con are at home, and the easiest are away. Who knows how that will play.

This actually highlights a big issue with our schedule - due to the home and away variances and quality of opponent, there could be very little difference between a Gopher squad that goes 3-9 and one that goes 6-6. Even the difference between 6-6 and 9-3 could be pretty subtle, though I don't think we're in that range... hope I'm wrong.
 

mcrow said:
I'm not sure the Gophers are any better or any worse than last year so I'll say 2-6 or 3-5 (8th or 9th)

I will say that we have 4 non-conference games and I wouldn't call the Gophers a clear favorite it any of them. Though, now that Dasher is out they should be the clear favorite in the opener.

Best case, IMO, they go 2-2 non-conference.

I think the Gophers have a shot at beating NW,Ill,Purdue and Michigan State. Chances are that they don't win all 4 of them. I see them going 2-2 or 3-1 there.

So 4-8 maybe 5-7 overall, IMO.

It's a sad state when we can't count on wins at Northern Illinois, SD and Middle Tennessee.
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Speak for yourself. I fully expect a win tomorrow and against SD.
 

hyaluronic said:
I'm not following your logic. You think we will go 2-1 against NI, SD, MTSU, when 2 of 3 are at home, and then think it is possible to go 3-1 in the B10 against MSU, NW, Purdue, and Ill when 3 of 4 are on the road? I know the gap between BCS and non-BCS is closer than ever, but this is asinine. If we're good enough to go 3-1 against the B10 schools, we should likely go 3-0 outside of USC in the non-conference schedule. If we go 2-1 against NI, SD, MTSU, then 1-3 against the 4 B10 schools mentioned is very likely. Barring fluke game upsets, I have a hard time calling a 4-5 win season. I'm not saying it is impossible, but if you look at a computer ranking and compare it with our opponents, there could be a larger than usual number of upsets, going either way... Our toughest games in the non-con are at home, and the easiest are away. Who knows how that will play.

This actually highlights a big issue with our schedule - due to the home and away variances and quality of opponent, there could be very little difference between a Gopher squad that goes 3-9 and one that goes 6-6. Even the difference between 6-6 and 9-3 could be pretty subtle, though I don't think we're in that range... hope I'm wrong.
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NI is a decent team, better than SD and SD gave us a heck of a run last year. MTSU with Dasher would have been a tough game for the Gophers, particularly on their home field. What I'm saying is that the Gophers should beat NI and SD but I'm not counting on it. Before Dasher being suspended, the MTSU game was even money, IMO. USC, is USC. Considering Dasher is out the Gophers should go 3-1 in the Non-conference but we are not so much better than NI that we can chalk that one up and SD obviously has had sucess against us.

The 4 Big Ten games (3 on the road): I said I think they'll go 2-2. I said the could go 3-1 because I think they are as good or better than those teams or at least beat them last season. Heck, they could go 1-3 as well depending on what happens during the season (Injuries...ect).

Bottom line is that I see them winning 3-5 games all year. Not a good season for Gopher Nation.

However, I think if the OL and QB play gets better, they find a play maker on offense, and the defense continues to improve they might make a bowl game (unlikely,IMO). It's not likely that all of the problem areas improve as much as we thing, though.
 


mcrow said:
NI is a decent team, better than SD and SD gave us a heck of a run last year...

...and SD obviously has had sucess against us.
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Sound research backing up sound analysis.

This is a textbook example of "Garbage In - Garbage Out".
 

GoGoGophers said:
Sound research backing up sound analysis.

This is a textbook example of "Garbage In - Garbage Out".
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REALLY? So a team like SD only losing to a Big Ten team by 3 points wouldn't count as a success? Nearly the same amount of total offense?

You sir are a:
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There's no way a team like SD should be that close to a Big Ten team.

As I said, the Gophers should beat SD but given they barely escaped with a win last year and that NDSU game in the past, I'm not putting that in the win column just yet.
 

mcrow said:
SD gave us a heck of a run last year
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We didn't play SD last year.

mcrow said:
SD obviously has had sucess against us
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We are 9-1 against them. Scores of the games have been 77-0, 81-0, 17-0, 5-0, 0-10, 14-0, 29-7, 19-0, 81-0, and 59-0. Aggregate score of 382-17. Average game score 38-2. Yep, lots of "obvious" "sucess" against us.

mcrow said:
So a team like SD only losing to a Big Ten team by 3 points wouldn't count as a success?
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They have never lost to us (or any other Big Ten team) by that small of a margin.

mcrow said:
There's no way a team like SD should be that close to a Big Ten team.
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Don't worry, they won't be.
 

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