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Okay, here we go:

Towson State over Connecticut
Eastern Illinois over San Diego State
Eastern Washington over Oregon State
Northern Iowa over Iowa State
NIU over the Hawkeyes
MacNeese State over South Florida
Western Kentucky over Kentucky
Texas State over Southern Mississippi

Some of those victories by two or three touchdowns!

Now add in Nebraska holding on for dear life against Wyoming and Kansas State losing at home to, I forget who :eek: , and it's been a very strange opening weekend.

That certainly makes that UNLV game feel sweeter and sweeter. :cool:
 

The top schools are more powerful and dominating than ever.

As for the bottom half, it's now a free-for-all.
 

If you didn't watch the Illinois vs. Southern Illinois game, Illinois was slinging ball all over the field and built a 39-17 lead and remove Schellhause for Otoole. They were forced to bring Schellhause back in and with the score 42-34 Southern Illinois was on the Illinois three. A TD and 2 point were looking like overtime, but a forth down pass in the endzone went incomplete and Beckman dodged a bullet.
 

Which is exactly why "running up the score" is not running up the score!
 

I think it just shows how vulnerable teams are week 1. Lots of kids playing for the first time and not as familiar with the playbook. I think we see some serious progress at New Mexico St or at least I hope.
 


As much as I hate playing the first game at 6 on Thursday during the state fair, with an afternoon twins game and a vikes night game, what I am glad about is that we won the game and we have extra days to work on what we didn't do well. We also got to play lots of new faces. Nothing beats game experience.

I think we will dominate our next two and hopefully go into the SJSU game with a healthy Kirkwood and two QBs that can run the offense and backups at every position with PT and two juco linebackers who are ready to play in the B1G.

Love the idea of starting season 5-0. Our second half schedule is brutal.
 


And just to think: if you take away all of our big plays it would have been UNLV over Minnesota :cool02::cool02:
 

Jeshurun said:
And just to think: if you take away all of our big plays it would have been UNLV over Minnesota :cool02::cool02:
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And if you take away UNLV's big plays it would have been a win by a larger margin!!!
 



Jeshurun said:
And just to think: if you take away all of our big plays it would have been UNLV over Minnesota :cool02::cool02:
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Strangely enough, every play of every game counts. Imagine that.
 

How is the N. Illinois over Iowa such a surprise? NIU played in a BCS bowl game last year and Iowa was 4-8.

Regardless of Iowa's recent struggles the MN Gophers shouldn't take them lightly at TCF. Iowa has the pieces to beat MN as we all saw last year. That game is going to be a dogfight, especially now that Iowa appears to have a QB that can throw a little. He cost them yesterday with his pick late in the 4th quarter but overall he played somewhat decent for his first college game.
 

The top 10 teams in the FCS are as good as 1/2 the teams in the FBS.
 

DakotaKid said:
The top 10 teams in the FCS are as good as 1/2 the teams in the FBS.
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If it makes you feel better to think that go right ahead. That's probably a quite an exaggeration though. The 8 wins by FCS teams this week was a new record. Before that the most wins for an entire season was 10. NDSU is a team that was done well in gearing-up for that one game each year. History shows that when FCS teams move-up to FBS and have to play 10-12 FBS teams they don't perform so well.

Even with this week's uprising, FCS teams remain the most reliable victory-padding opponents. All but one of the past eight BCS champions (all from the SEC) played at least one FCS team during their title-winning seasons. Even the two ranked teams that lost to FCS opponents during the BCS era bounced back from the humiliation and ended up playing in New Year's Day bowls. The 2007 Michigan team beat Heisman winner Tim Tebow and Florida in the Capital One Bowl, and the 2010 Virginia Tech team lost to Andrew Luck and Stanford in the Orange Bowl..

There are only three FBS teams that have never played (or scheduled) an FCS opponent: USC, UCLA and Notre Dame. And the Big Ten has announced (for now) that its members will no longer play FCS programs after honoring present arrangements, meaning starting in 2015 no FCS team could be on the B1G schedule.

But don't count on the SEC to follow suit or tinker with its steady diet of FCS games. It's good for business, and it's never hurt member schools. Also, SEC teams do their due diligence and rarely schedule any FCS teams that can cause problems, other than the seemingly annual close games against SoCon teams. In the BCS era, the SEC has lost only two games to FCS opponents (Mississippi State in 2004 and Ole Miss in 2010).

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/1/4681824/fcs-football-upsets-fbs-2013-week-1

http://i0.wp.com/www.footballgeography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/fbsvfcs_chart.png
 



Iceland12 said:
If it makes you feel better to think that go right ahead. That's probably a quite an exaggeration though. The 8 wins by FCS teams this week was a new record. Before that the most wins for an entire season was 6. NDSU is a team that was done well in gearing-up for that one game each year. History shows that when FCS teams move-up to FBS and have to play 10-12 FBS teams they don't perform so well.

Even with this week's uprising, FCS teams remain the most reliable victory-padding opponents. All but one of the past eight BCS champions (all from the SEC) played at least one FCS team during their title-winning seasons. Even the two ranked teams that lost to FCS opponents during the BCS era bounced back from the humiliation and ended up playing in New Year's Day bowls. The 2007 Michigan team beat Heisman winner Tim Tebow and Florida in the Capital One Bowl, and the 2010 Virginia Tech team lost to Andrew Luck and Stanford in the Orange Bowl..

There are only three FBS teams that have never played (or scheduled) an FCS opponent: USC, UCLA and Notre Dame. And the Big Ten has announced (for now) that its members will no longer play FCS programs after honoring present arrangements, meaning starting in 2015 no FCS team could be on the B1G schedule.

But don't count on the SEC to follow suit or tinker with its steady diet of FCS games. It's good for business, and it's never hurt member schools. Also, SEC teams do their due diligence and rarely schedule any FCS teams that can cause problems, other than the seemingly annual close games against SoCon teams. In the BCS era, the SEC has lost only two games to FCS opponents (Mississippi State in 2004 and Ole Miss in 2010).

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/1/4681824/fcs-football-upsets-fbs-2013-week-1

http://i0.wp.com/www.footballgeography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/fbsvfcs_chart.png
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No no No....you have it all wrong. NDSU would only lose by a field goal to Alabama....
 

UNLV, San Jose and New Mexico State . . . who needs to schedule FCS games. Most FCS teams would enjoy those 3 games, maybe not San Jose, they were pretty good last year. GA State and Umass must have been booked up.
 

Sorry, it was 11 FCS wins in 2012, not 6.
 

Herd said:
UNLV, San Jose and New Mexico State . . . who needs to schedule FCS games. Most FCS teams would enjoy those 3 games, maybe not San Jose, they were pretty good last year. GA State and Umass must have been booked up.
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Hahaha why are you posting here? Are you that insecure about your fcs championship team that you come to a non-rival board to try and stir things up? Lol I can understand Becky and the hogs, but ndsu fan talking trash after beating a bad kstate team? Hahahahaha Fargo must be exciting!!!
 

lakesgopher said:
Hahaha why are you posting here? Are you that insecure about your fcs championship team that you come to a non-rival board to try and stir things up? Lol I can understand Becky and the hogs, but ndsu fan talking trash after beating a bad kstate team? Hahahahaha Fargo must be exciting!!!
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It is exciting, to those who have nothing else in their lives. :)
 

Herd said:
Sorry, it was 11 FCS wins in 2012, not 6.
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You could be correct. Only thing that is easy to find is that FBS teams tied the record set in 1982 by winning 96 of the contests and in 1982 they played 119 times. The chart looked like 6 wins, the list seems to say 10 out of 106. Can't see the 11, but Im tired of looking could have missed it.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/1/4681824/fcs-football-upsets-fbs-2013-week-1

http://www.footballgeography.com/history-of-fbs-i-a-vs-fcs-i-aa/
 

lakesgopher said:
Hahaha why are you posting here? Are you that insecure about your fcs championship team that you come to a non-rival board to try and stir things up? Lol I can understand Becky and the hogs, but ndsu fan talking trash after beating a bad kstate team? Hahahahaha Fargo must be exciting!!!
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Just responding to those bashing the FCS as weak. The top 10 FCS are all in the 40-95 Sagarin range. MN is playing 3 teams in the 150-180 range 2 FBS & 1 FCS (based on 2012 rankings), by the way. Frankly, it is understandable when you look at the tough B1G schedule. Eating a little cake before the B1G season is necessary for some wins if you want to play 13.

Yes, Bison fan. Don't live in Fargo, live in eastern MN, but nothing against Fargo. You'd be surprised at the number of cars with MN plate driving down I70 from KC to Manhattan. And, not insecure at all after beating B1T Champs. Also, I root for my in-state team each week, would like nothing better than to see a championship team here in MN.

As for K-state being bad, we will see, but I don't think so. I think they just ran into a team that plays defense at a pretty high level, and that's something you don't find much in the B1T where you spread em out and light em up. K stat is picked 6th in the B1T, and I bet then finish around 3-4. It didn't hurt that they got their wakeup call.
 

Herd said:
Just responding to those bashing the FCS as weak. The top 10 FCS are all in the 40-95 Sagarin range. MN is playing 3 teams in the 150-180 range 2 FBS & 1 FCS (based on 2012 rankings), by the way. Frankly, it is understandable when you look at the tough B1G schedule. Eating a little cake before the B1G season is necessary for some wins if you want to play 13.

Yes, Bison fan. Don't live in Fargo, live in eastern MN, but nothing against Fargo. You'd be surprised at the number of cars with MN plate driving down I70 from KC to Manhattan. And, not insecure at all after beating B1T Champs. Also, I root for my in-state team each week, would like nothing better than to see a championship team here in MN.

As for K-state being bad, we will see, but I don't think so. I think they just ran into a team that plays defense at a pretty high level, and that's something you don't find much in the B1T where you spread em out and light em up. K stat is picked 6th in the B1T, and I bet then finish around 3-4. It didn't hurt that they got their wakeup call.
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Fcs is weak, sagarin is a laughable system IMO, and you're trolling. It was a cute effort though lol
 

Herd said:
Just responding to those bashing the FCS as weak. The top 10 FCS are all in the 40-95 Sagarin range. MN is playing 3 teams in the 150-180 range 2 FBS & 1 FCS (based on 2012 rankings), by the way. Frankly, it is understandable when you look at the tough B1G schedule. Eating a little cake before the B1G season is necessary for some wins if you want to play 13.

Yes, Bison fan. Don't live in Fargo, live in eastern MN, but nothing against Fargo. You'd be surprised at the number of cars with MN plate driving down I70 from KC to Manhattan. And, not insecure at all after beating B1T Champs. Also, I root for my in-state team each week, would like nothing better than to see a championship team here in MN.

As for K-state being bad, we will see, but I don't think so. I think they just ran into a team that plays defense at a pretty high level, and that's something you don't find much in the B1T where you spread em out and light em up. K stat is picked 6th in the B1T, and I bet then finish around 3-4. It didn't hurt that they got their wakeup call.
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B1T is not a thing. Please stop trying to make B1T a thing.
 

We were losing to fcs teams before it was the cool thing it is now.
 


B1GSportsGuy said:
How is the N. Illinois over Iowa such a surprise? NIU played in a BCS bowl game last year and Iowa was 4-8.

Regardless of Iowa's recent struggles the MN Gophers shouldn't take them lightly at TCF. Iowa has the pieces to beat MN as we all saw last year. That game is going to be a dogfight, especially now that Iowa appears to have a QB that can throw a little. He cost them yesterday with his pick late in the 4th quarter but overall he played somewhat decent for his first college game.
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Have to agree NIU over Iowa is not a shock. It is exciting to see our rival fall to a powerful MAC team that was built by our current coach.
 

lakesgopher said:
Fcs is weak, sagarin is a laughable system IMO, and you're trolling. It was a cute effort though lol
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The FCS has a few leagues of zero to 40 scholarships (which you probably don't know or understand), so you can't paint every FCS league with the same brush.

The following Leagues are at the scholarship max and will play the FBS very tough:
Missouri Valley, Southern, Big Sky, Colonial, along with some teams in the Southland, Ohio Valley being strong. Is is about who you schedule in the FCS and if you want strong competition or not.

If you want to say the FCS is terrible, I agree with you if you are talking 0-40 scholarship leagues such as:
Pioneer, Patriot, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, Ivy and some of the Southland and Ohio Valley.


I can likewise say that the FBS ranks are terrible while referring to some of the teams in the Sunbelt, MAC, MWC, CUSA, AAC. Should I paint the SEC with the FBS is terrible brush too because some of the teams in lesser leagues are terrible?

Barry Alvarez squeeks by Cal Poly (Big Sky) and UNI (MO Valley) in back to back years, then he says the FCS is terrible and schedules who? UMASS, that's right . . . with a 180 Sagarin, who would get destroyed by UNI and CP. I can give you 10 teams in the Valley (that's the whole league) that are better teams than UMASS. So if you want to say the fCS is bad and cherry pick games against teams < 150 in the FBS, more power to you Barry. The B1G policy should be to play good teams, instead of making a "we won't play the FCS" proclamation. But it would be beneath the B1G to say anything but negative things about the FCS.
 

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