What constitutes a "sellout?"

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It sounds like the only seats left are obstructed views and single seats (plus any visitors tickets that are returned and remain unsold).

I'm not sure what the "official" criteria is for a sellout, but in my mind - with the limitations of the remaining seats - we are now essentially sold out.

Does anybody have any official criteria?

Also, does anybody know how many "obstructed view" seats there are? It doesn't seem like we have any pillars, etc, so I wouldn't have thought there would be many (any).

Thanks, your input is appreciated.

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The obstructed view seats have to do with railings that are in the way on some second deck seats. I have seen pictures and it really isn't that big of a deal. In every case, you can 'un-obstruct' your view by either standing, or turning your head. It isn't like the old definition of "obstructed view" where there were giant pillars or other structures between the seat and the action.

I'm not sure what the official definition of 'sellout' is for TCF.
 

Go Gophers Rah said:
It sounds like the only seats left are obstructed views and single seats (plus any visitors tickets that are returned and remain unsold).

I'm not sure what the "official" criteria is for a sellout, but in my mind - with the limitations of the remaining seats - we are now essentially sold out.

Does anybody have any official criteria?

Also, does anybody know how many "obstructed view" seats there are? It doesn't seem like we have any pillars, etc, so I wouldn't have thought there would be many (any).

Thanks, your input is appreciated.

Go Gophers!
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A couple hundred at most. There are 85 sections and I think there were about 4-6 seats per section that were "obstructed view" b/c of the railings. So I'm guessing approximately 300-500 seats (I'm leaning towards 500).
 

I think we can agree on a defintion.

I always liked there being no "walk-up" ticket sales to mean all the tickets are sold out. Others may want a more definitive term. No tickets of any kind maybe?
 

If there are only a handful of poor seats remaining, they will get sold. Poor seats start seeming a lot more appealing when it is your only choice! Even if season ticket holders don't want them, they will get snagged up fast enough for individual games.
 


I think that when only singles are left, it can be justifiably called a sellout.
 

You cannot call it a sellout unless as the name suggests that all seats have been sold in my opinion. As long as all tickets are sold before kickoff then I would consider it a sellout.
 

I know that the Vikings (roughly 61,000) and Twins (roughly 45,000) constitute a sellout as roughly 95% capacity or more. I don't know if that's the consideration for the Gophers, but that's how the Twins and Vikings do it.
 

I'd say its a sellout if all seats other than visitor allotment are sold (this means no singles). You can't control whether a visitor will return some or sell them all and there is no way to offer them in advance.
 



they might wait for the official 'sellout!' announcement until those 2000 reserved student tickets are all sold.
 

I think for the purposes of this discussion, it doesn't really matter whether there's an official definition.

It matters to the Gopher marketing department; they will be glad to sell tickets until they are gone. It matters in the NFL for blackout purposes. It might matter to the media reporting the game, but they typically say "an announced crowd of X" anyway.

But it sounds like you're not worried about buying another ticket. If you're worried about perception, the perception will be that it's sold out. On TV, they will say it's sold out, or at least "a full house" or a "packed stadium." It will look sold out. Nobody will care that it's a smaller stadium. It will just look full and fun.
 

MrGopher said:
they might wait for the official 'sellout!' announcement until those 2000 reserved student tickets are all sold.
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I am pretty sure those 2000 new freshman and graduate student tickets will be easy to sell.
 

gopherguy06 said:
I am pretty sure those 2000 new freshman and graduate student tickets will be easy to sell.
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Definitely. And speaking of that, I know we haven't heard a final word on the original 8k other than they sold 7k of them in the first week, but I know of someone who just now tried to get student tickets and they were sold out. So clearly that first 8k sold out despite the lack of an announcement about it.
 



Sour1729 said:
Definitely. And speaking of that, I know we haven't heard a final word on the original 8k other than they sold 7k of them in the first week, but I know of someone who just now tried to get student tickets and they were sold out. So clearly that first 8k sold out despite the lack of an announcement about it.
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I just checked gophersports.com, and here is what is posted when trying to select student tickets:

"The original 8,000 student season tickets that went on sale to all returning U of M students are SOLD OUT. Please remember that if you have purchased a season ticket but do not plan on attending school this fall with a minimum of 6 credit hours you will NOT be allowed to pick up your season ticket. All student season tickets will be verified with the Registrar's office to ensure each season ticket holder is a current U of M student. Every student season season ticket holder will need their U of M student ID and their season ticket to enter.

2009 student football season tickets for 1st year students (freshman, 1st year graduate students and transfer students) to the University of Minnesota – Twin Cities will go on sale August 15th at 7:00 AM. We have roughly 2,000 tickets designated for 1st year U of M students; these tickets will be sold on a first come, first served basis. If there are any football student season tickets left as of 12 PM on August 17th those will be on sale for any current U of M student to purchase who hasn't already purchased season tickets. The price of 2009 Student Football season tickets will be $77 plus a $6 handling fee which includes a student t-shirt and credit card processing fees.



· All student Football season tickets will be sold on-line through the Gophersports.com website

· Only 1st year students can purchase during this sale.

· Students will need to be registered for Fall 2009 classes in order to pick-up your tickets.

· Students are eligible to purchase one (1) 2009 student Football season ticket. "
 

Every student season season ticket holder will need their U of M student ID and their season ticket to enter.


NICE, if this is true and they hold to it this will surely hinder visiting fans getting in. now if they are loose on the matching of the person on the ID to the actual user of the ticket it could be a bigger problem, so hopefully they are strict and students actually want to attend rather than make a quick buck.
 


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