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He is a very good hire for them. Great recruiter with ties to the west coast and Calif. My first reaction when I saw it on the ticker started with the letter F.
 

BleedGopher said:
USC fan site about their former DC Justin Wilcox, who is the new DC at wisconsin:

http://www.firejustinwilcox.com/

Go Gophers!!
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This is great news. Considering the talent on the USC roster, they underperformed badly and have been the weak link. USC fans rightly hated him. The defense looked disorganized, unmotivated, and lost. Congratulations Wisconsin.
 

Well I'm sold. This is just like when they lost Bielema, hired the boring Chryst, lost Aranda...their program is clearly going down!

We love wishful thinking.
 

See if he sticks with the 3-4 defense that Aranda used. If they go back to the 4-3 defense ;another learning process that may take a season to implement. I do think he'll be a better recruiter than Aranda. A ton of talent on the West Coast.
 


RickDornsby said:
Well I'm sold. This is just like when they lost Bielema, hired the boring Chryst, lost Aranda...their program is clearly going down!

We love wishful thinking.
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Yeah the predictions of Wisconsin's downfall have become commonplace around here in the off-season. However there were some cracks in the armor last year and their schedule next season is brutal. So while there is no way to know if it will be a long term thing, odds are pretty good that for at least one year they will take a decent sized step backward.
 

I'm glad they hired Wilcox over their outside linebackers coach. I think the linebacker coach would have been a better hire.


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ruppertflywheel said:
See if he sticks with the 3-4 defense that Aranda used. If they go back to the 4-3 defense ;another learning process that may take a season to implement. I do think he'll be a better recruiter than Aranda. A ton of talent on the West Coast.
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Most of the talent on the west coast isn't interested in going to wisconsin or anywhere else in the midwest.
 

His defenses at Boise State, Washington and Tennessee all showed improvement and were solid units.

His raw numbers at USC weren't great, but their efficiency numbers were all in the 20s nationally. They certainly had talent but the depth was pretty sketchy with all the recruiting sanctions. The head coach showing up drunk to practices and games probably doesn't make coaching the defense any easier either.

I certainly don't think he'll be another Aranda, but I think he'll be solid, and possibly a better recruiter. I've also heard that the 3-4 is here to stay due to the type of kids Wisconsin can more easily recruit.

The Badgers went 10-3 with a loss to Bama, loss to Iowa by 4 with a Stave trip/fumble on 1st and goal inside the 5 in the final minutes, and a loss to Northwestern by 6 with what seemed like a game winning touchdown being overturned for whatever reason.

Next years schedule is pretty tough, but I think the defense will be elite and the offense could be better. I could see them anywhere between 8-4 and 10-2.
 



MNBadgerGuy said:
I certainly don't think he'll be another Aranda, but I think he'll be solid, and possibly a better recruiter. I've also heard that the 3-4 is here to stay due to the type of kids Wisconsin can more easily recruit.
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What's the reasoning behind the 3-4 fitting Wisconsin recruits better? I'm not saying it's wrong - just curious why that would be.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
His defenses at Boise State, Washington and Tennessee all showed improvement and were solid units.

His raw numbers at USC weren't great, but their efficiency numbers were all in the 20s nationally. They certainly had talent but the depth was pretty sketchy with all the recruiting sanctions. The head coach showing up drunk to practices and games probably doesn't make coaching the defense any easier either.

I certainly don't think he'll be another Aranda, but I think he'll be solid, and possibly a better recruiter. I've also heard that the 3-4 is here to stay due to the type of kids Wisconsin can more easily recruit.

The Badgers went 10-3 with a loss to Bama, loss to Iowa by 4 with a Stave trip/fumble on 1st and goal inside the 5 in the final minutes, and a loss to Northwestern by 6 with what seemed like a game winning touchdown being overturned for whatever reason.

Next years schedule is pretty tough, but I think the defense will be elite and the offense could be better. I could see them anywhere between 8-4 and 10-2.
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I watch a lot of USC football and they haven't been very good since Clancy left. They have underperformed badly considering the NFL talent littered across the field.

FEI had them at 30 and 42 the last few years. S&P+ has not been great either. The eye test has been brutal. Many collapses and god-awful showings.

I'll take our guys all day long.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
His defenses at Boise State, Washington and Tennessee all showed improvement and were solid units.

His raw numbers at USC weren't great, but their efficiency numbers were all in the 20s nationally. They certainly had talent but the depth was pretty sketchy with all the recruiting sanctions. The head coach showing up drunk to practices and games probably doesn't make coaching the defense any easier either.

I certainly don't think he'll be another Aranda, but I think he'll be solid, and possibly a better recruiter. I've also heard that the 3-4 is here to stay due to the type of kids Wisconsin can more easily recruit.

The Badgers went 10-3 with a loss to Bama, loss to Iowa by 4 with a Stave trip/fumble on 1st and goal inside the 5 in the final minutes, and a loss to Northwestern by 6 with what seemed like a game winning touchdown being overturned for whatever reason.

Next years schedule is pretty tough, but I think the defense will be elite and the offense could be better. I could see them anywhere between 8-4 and 10-2.
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8-4 would be a very successful season for you guys next year. Although I don't think you guys will be terrible. I think your worse case barring injury is still 6-6. Shows how healthy a program is when that's considered an outlier. I'll go anywhere between 6-6 and 8-4. Change Chryst name to Christ if he wins two of LSU, OSU, Sparty and SCUM and runs the table on the West
 

We can talk about their DC all we want, but the more important topic to break down is what their position coaches are saying in their press conferences.
 



Word said:
What's the reasoning behind the 3-4 fitting Wisconsin recruits better? I'm not saying it's wrong - just curious why that would be.
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The hardest thing to recruit is really big defensive tackles (plus 300 pounders) that have the speed and quickness to be difference makers. With a 3-4, you need much more of a plugger at nose tackle and you only need one plus 300 pounder in that case. It is much easier to find guys that can grow into 3-4 defensive ends than it is to find guys that can grow into 4-3 defensive tackles. It is also much easier in Wisconsin to find kids who will grow into really good outside linebackers in a 3-4. Guys like Biegel, Schoebert, Watt, Cichy are good examples of that.

Since the switch, the Badgers have been loaded at linebacker and they continue to be. They are not changing the scheme any time soon.
 

GVBadger said:
The hardest thing to recruit is really big defensive tackles (plus 300 pounders) that have the speed and quickness to be difference makers. With a 3-4, you need much more of a plugger at nose tackle and you only need one plus 300 pounder in that case. It is much easier to find guys that can grow into 3-4 defensive ends than it is to find guys that can grow into 4-3 defensive tackles. It is also much easier in Wisconsin to find kids who will grow into really good outside linebackers in a 3-4. Guys like Biegel, Schoebert, Watt, Cichy are good examples of that.

Since the switch, the Badgers have been loaded at linebacker and they continue to be. They are not changing the scheme any time soon.
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This is great news. California kids WILL NEVER PLAY at wisconsin.
 


justthefacts said:
Was curious about this so looked it up. In the last 4 classes Wisconsin has had 5 commits from CA.
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Can't be right. I read somewhere that California kids WILL NEVER PLAY at Wisconsin.
 


GVBadger said:
The hardest thing to recruit is really big defensive tackles (plus 300 pounders) that have the speed and quickness to be difference makers. With a 3-4, you need much more of a plugger at nose tackle and you only need one plus 300 pounder in that case. It is much easier to find guys that can grow into 3-4 defensive ends than it is to find guys that can grow into 4-3 defensive tackles. It is also much easier in Wisconsin to find kids who will grow into really good outside linebackers in a 3-4. Guys like Biegel, Schoebert, Watt, Cichy are good examples of that.

Since the switch, the Badgers have been loaded at linebacker and they continue to be. They are not changing the scheme any time soon.
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I hate to agree with anything Wisconsin is doing but I think it is a great strategy and am surprised more programs aren't using the 3-4.
 

GVBadger said:
The hardest thing to recruit is really big defensive tackles (plus 300 pounders) that have the speed and quickness to be difference makers. With a 3-4, you need much more of a plugger at nose tackle and you only need one plus 300 pounder in that case. It is much easier to find guys that can grow into 3-4 defensive ends than it is to find guys that can grow into 4-3 defensive tackles. It is also much easier in Wisconsin to find kids who will grow into really good outside linebackers in a 3-4. Guys like Biegel, Schoebert, Watt, Cichy are good examples of that.

Since the switch, the Badgers have been loaded at linebacker and they continue to be. They are not changing the scheme any time soon.
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Yeah, I think the 3-4 makes a lot of sense. DT's are the most difficult thing to recruit. They are like dominant centers in college, there just aren't as many athletic mammoths, so you're competing with the big boys.

I am happy Aranda is gone. That really isn't a rip on Wilcox, I just would prefer Aranda to not be part of the WI program in any facet, he's that impressive of a coach.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
His defenses at Boise State, Washington and Tennessee all showed improvement and were solid units.

His raw numbers at USC weren't great, but their efficiency numbers were all in the 20s nationally. They certainly had talent but the depth was pretty sketchy with all the recruiting sanctions. The head coach showing up drunk to practices and games probably doesn't make coaching the defense any easier either.

I certainly don't think he'll be another Aranda, but I think he'll be solid, and possibly a better recruiter. I've also heard that the 3-4 is here to stay due to the type of kids Wisconsin can more easily recruit.

The Badgers went 10-3 with a loss to Bama, loss to Iowa by 4 with a Stave trip/fumble on 1st and goal inside the 5 in the final minutes, and a loss to Northwestern by 6 with what seemed like a game winning touchdown being overturned for whatever reason.

Next years schedule is pretty tough, but I think the defense will be elite and the offense could be better. I could see them anywhere between 8-4 and 10-2.
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By "whatever reason" you mean "because the receiver didn't catch the ball", right?
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
By "whatever reason" you mean "because the receiver didn't catch the ball", right?
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I hate Wisconsin as much as anyone, but that was a catch. That was a horrible call, maybe even worse than the Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson "incomplete catches." Anyone who thinks that was incomplete simply doesn't trust their own eyes.
 

DMB123 said:
I hate Wisconsin as much as anyone, but that was a catch. That was a horrible call, maybe even worse than the Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson "incomplete catches." Anyone who thinks that was incomplete simply doesn't trust their own eyes.
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You can disagree with the rule if you want, but under the rules as written that was not a catch.
 

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