Voter Suppression efforts in full swing




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Gerrymandering​

Virginia was one of the most gerrymandered states in the country, both on the congressional and state levels, based on lack of compactness and contiguity of its districts. Virginia pre-2016 congressional districts were ranked the 5th worst in the country by one analysis[5] because counties and cities were broken into multiple pieces to create heavily partisan districts.
Virginia was controlled by the GQP when the last redistricting was done. Nice face plant.
 

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Virginia was controlled by the GQP when the last redistricting was done. Nice face plant.
Face plant? Where did I say that Republicans didn’t gerrymander?

I simply replied to your post that Virginia is a model.

Apparently, you’ve now changed your mind.

Who redistricted or is redistricting Virginia, and what evidence do you have that they are unbiased?
 



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What defines “independent bodies”? Who gets to decide? I guarantee you that there are no independent bodies.
Use a mathematical measure of how square a district is. Then a computer can crunch the numbers and give you the highest cumulative squareness of a states districts. No people involved.
 

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Face plant? Where did I say that Republicans didn’t gerrymander?

I simply replied to your post that Virginia is a model.

Apparently, you’ve now changed your mind.

Who redistricted or is redistricting Virginia, and what evidence do you have that they are unbiased?
The independent commission in VA was only passed a couple years ago. This is the 1st time it is in use. You responded with a "gotcha" about how gerrymandered VA is, which was done by the VA GQP in 2010. Face. Plant.
 

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What defines “independent bodies”? Who gets to decide? I guarantee you that there are no independent bodies.
It should be automated as much as possible. But it's certainly possible to have non-partisan folks on it, or at least equal #'s of D's and R's.
 



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Use a mathematical measure of how square a district is. Then a computer can crunch the numbers and give you the highest cumulative squareness of a states districts. No people involved.

Math is left leaning. Always has been.
 

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It should be automated as much as possible. But it's certainly possible to have non-partisan folks on it, or at least equal #'s of D's and R's.
Automated? And who writes the program? Non-partisans? Like people that don’t have a stake in the elections? Who would that be? If the equal Ds and Rs don’t agree to agree, who decides?

There is no “equal”. Someone will always work to get the upper hand.

You just don’t like state constitutions and legislative authority or the power authorized to them by the US Constitution. You’re only interested in how electoral processes can benefit Democrats. You don’t care about fairness, unless you’re the judge of what’s fair.
 
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The independent commission in VA was only passed a couple years ago. This is the 1st time it is in use. You responded with a "gotcha" about how gerrymandered VA is, which was done by the VA GQP in 2010. Face. Plant.
Independent commission? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

It was a “gotcha“ was it? I posted nothing with it. Just the verbiage of the situation in Virginia which you claimed was a model. Why hasn’t that part of the Wikipedia document been amended if it’s not still true?

And apparently, Virginia hasn’t yet figured it out.
 
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Almost 1 year into a 4-year “voter suppression” narrative. Evil republicans.
 




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Does Marc Elias even care about what Marc Elias “fights for every day”?
 

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Almost 1 year into a 4-year “voter suppression” narrative. Evil republicans.
FIve years into undeniable voter suppression efforts. It's not even debateable. That's what the entire "election fraud" trump bullshit is about. Evil Repugnicans indeed. That's what multiple Repugnican state legislatures are doing, in mulitple ways. It's anti fucking democracy. Can't win if we let those people vote...so don't let 'em vote.

But you already knew that. You just don't want to admit it.
 



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FIve years into undeniable voter suppression efforts. It's not even debateable. That's what the entire "election fraud" trump bullshit is about. Evil Repugnicans indeed. That's what multiple Repugnican state legislatures are doing, in mulitple ways. It's anti fucking democracy. Can't win if we let those people vote...so don't let 'em vote.

But you already knew that. You just don't want to admit it.
The only ones who listen to him are righties, maybe he will convince them their votes are worthless. 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Automated? And who writes the program? Non-partisans? Like people that don’t have a stake in the elections? Who would that be? If the equal Ds and Rs don’t agree to agree, who decides?

There is no “equal”. Someone will always work to get the upper hand.

You just don’t like state constitutions and legislative authority or the power authorized to them by the US Constitution. You’re only interested in how electoral processes can benefit Democrats. You don’t care about fairness, unless you’re the judge of what’s fair.
Drawing compact, geographically logical districts is not partisan or hard to understand. Ridiculous gerrymanders are also not hard to understand. It's incredibly pathetic that you act like this can't be done.
 








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In person voting would solve this.

Oh, the absolute horrors of that.
 


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Once again, for posterity and correctness:

Washington (state) has it correct.
 




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