USF falls off 2 dubious lists

[SelectionSunday]

With USF's tournament appearance followed by its win over Cal last night, the Bulls remove themselves from 2 dubious lists.

And yes, though some of you will insist the First Four shouldn't count as a NCAA tourney win, it does.

BCS Programs with No NCAA Appearances Since 2000
1. Nebraska
2. Northwestern
3. Oregon State
4. Rutgers

BCS Programs with No NCAA Wins Since 2000
1. Colorado (Buffs have a chance to get off this list tonight vs. UNLV)
2. Minnesota (unofficially, the last win was UCLA in '97; in the record books, it was Syracuse in '90)
3. Nebraska
4. Northwestern
5. Oregon State
6. Providence
7. Rutgers
8. South Carolina

 

[goldengophers]

Go Bulls!

 

[LongLiveMilesTarver]

It really shouldn't count as a tournament win. Western Kentucky won their first round game as a 16 seed. Sounds impressive. Wait, they played another 16 seed in a game to see who will get killed by Kentucky.

Oh yippee the Colorado Buffaloes made it to the second round for the first time since 1997. Wait, that's not impressive at all because as of this point they still haven't won a game. The bubble has been as weak as it's ever been over the past 2-3 years and we add more teams to the mix. In my opinion, less is more.

 

[atsgopher]

Now all the recruits are gonna sign with South Dakota.

We should have told them we're one of the only 2 BCS programs with 2 hockey championships since 2000.

 

[SelectionSunday]

It really shouldn't count as a tournament win.

I certainly understand the sentiment, but the bottom line is it's part of the tournament (as it's constructed today).

"Less is more". ... agree with you 100% there. Cal certainly did its part last night to showcase why the NCAA and its TV partners should scoff at future tournament expansion. Although, in the interests of fairness, VCU last year from the same position. ...

 

[dpodoll68]

Call it a tournament win if you want, fine, but the NCAA's insistence on calling the 1st round "the 2nd round" is just plain stupid. Even if this format continues for another 1,000 years, it will always be the 1st round to me and anyone else with common sense.

 

[SelectionSunday]

. ... but the NCAA's insistence on calling the 1st round "the 2nd round" is just plain stupid. Even if this format continues for another 1,000 years, it will always be the 1st round to me and anyone else with common sense.

Agree. Don't know what the problem is calling it:

The First Four (I actually think it's catchy)
1st round
2nd round/Round of 32 (whatever your preference)
Sweet 16
Elite 8
Final 4
Title game

I don't think any of the teams playing in the First Four would be offended if the "2nd round" went back to being called what it should be called, the "1st round".

 

[GopherRock]

Just call em what they are, pig-tail games, and get on with it.

 

[920/414 Gopher]

Agree. Don't know what the problem is calling it:

The First Four (I actually think it's catchy)
1st round
2nd round/Round of 32 (whatever your preference)
Sweet 16
Elite 8
Final 4
Title game

I don't think any of the teams playing in the First Four would be offended if the "2nd round" went back to being called what it should be called, the "1st round".

Couldn't agree more with both you and Dpo...I will never call the round of 32 the "Third Round."

 

[bemidjigopher]

If the field expanded to 96, this years gopher squad probably would've sneak in, definently would've if it goes to 128, as much as I love my gophs, do we really want 6-12, 7-11 teams in their conference watering down the big dance, after all who would be in the NIT at that point?

 

[GophersInIowa]

Going to 96 or 128 teams would be like making 3-win teams bowl eligible in football.

 

[Rosemountian]

Going to 96 or 128 teams would be like making 3-win teams bowl eligible in football.

There are 120 football teams and 70 go to bowls (58%).
There are 345 basketball schools.
To reach 58% you'd need a 200 team tourney.


Good thought though.

 

[GophersInIowa]

There are 120 football teams and 70 go to bowls (58%).
There are 345 basketball schools.
To reach 58% you'd need a 200 team tourney.


Good thought though.

Maybe not 96, but if they were to go to 128 teams, I bet 80% of teams from the "big conferences" would have made the tourney. That's the point I was trying to make.