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May push the deadline past April 16. Coyle will make the announcement. In all likelihood, unless some miracle meds pop up, part or all of the football season will be cancelled, in my view. The virus is just getting going and metro areas everywhere will be as critical as Seattle is now. Not as bad as NYC, but bad enough to cancel sports. Basically, we are all losing about a year of our lives, until a vaccine is ready in 2021.
 

I get that this is serious but I really don't understand the rush to make decisions now about things that are scheduled in August and beyond. Football has the benefit of time to work with whereas the other sports had to make decisions right away.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
May push the deadline past April 16. Coyle will make the announcement. In all likelihood, unless some miracle meds pop up, part or all of the football season will be cancelled, in my view. The virus is just getting going and metro areas everywhere will be as critical as Seattle is now. Not as bad as NYC, but bad enough to cancel sports. Basically, we are all losing about a year of our lives, until a vaccine is ready in 2021.
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No, not at all. That's 5 months away. You really think we are going to stay cooped up with the world shut down for more than a couple months? We will figure out different ways to go about our lives as needed, but I see zero chance its going to be like it currently is until we have a vaccine. China is already doing much better after their lockdown. If they have to play games without fans, they will but I sincerely doubt we won't have our testing situation in order in the next few months. They may quarantine certain hotspots for a time period or tell high-risk people to self-isolate, but I just don't see a world existing like this for 3-4 months straight.
 

WriterGoph said:
No, not at all. That's 5 months away. You really think we are going to stay cooped up with the world shut down for more than a couple months? We will figure out different ways to go about our lives as needed, but I see zero chance its going to be like it currently is until we have a vaccine. China is already doing much better after their lockdown. If they have to play games without fans, they will but I sincerely doubt we won't have our testing situation in order in the next few months. They may quarantine certain hotspots for a time period or tell high-risk people to self-isolate, but I just don't see a world existing like this for 3-4 months straight.
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I think the Spanish Flu took something like 2 years to fully run its course. We could be locked down like this for longer than most people suspect.

More importantly, high level athletes need a ton of time to train. They've already completely missed the spring practice season. Many college football players are locked out of their facilities and likely don't have access to adequate training equipment or nutrition. There is a significant health component of this that they need to take into account. I could certainly see the B1G running an abbreviated season if not outright cancelling for the year.

If they don't do that then expect to see a ton of injuries next season. Even if this lock down only lasts through May, they will have lost half of their off season.
 
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hello-world said:
I think the Spanish Flu took something like 2 years to fully run its course. We could be locked down like this for longer than most people suspect.

More importantly, high level athletes need a ton of time to train. They've already completely missed the spring practice season. Many college football players are locked out of their facilities and likely don't have access to adequate training equipment or nutrition. There is a significant health component of this that they need to take into account. I could certainly see the B1G running an abbreviated season if not outright cancelling for the year.

If they don't do that then expect to see a ton of injuries next season. Even if this lock down only lasts through May, they will have lost half of their off season.
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3 years for Spanish Flu. However Spanish flu also had a much lower person-to-person transmission rate (ie each infected person only infected about 1 other and it is Coronavirus may be 2-3 persons per each infected person). Some places enforced isolation for brief periods or mask wearing, however our understanding of disease transmission at that time was substantially less than it is now. Due to the lower transmission rates, it took longer for the full attack rate which the population would see (hence the several years). Eventually enough people get the infection or become immune to it via a vaccine, thus reducing rates of transmission (people still get it, just fewer to go around and the hospitals can handle the capacity). Thus it all depends on how quickly we hit the saturation point (depends on roll out of wide spread testing, the rate of reinfection, us truly figuring out how many asymptomatic carriers there are, etc) and then actual decisions can be made. I wouldn't be surprised, as you state, if we see the season not played due to risk of large groups being problematic, however I don't see us remaining in lockdown that long (some of which is driven by who our President is and our inability to get many states to even lock down in the first place). We'll know a ton more in 2 weeks time given that will demonstrate just how good a job our initial isolation wave did at flattening this thing out.
 


Ours is an income issue from the direct economic fallout from covid. As noted in another thread, I will have better personal economic data June 1 relative to present. It would not be rational to keep what we currently have tix-wise if we take a 25-30% income hit, which is the data now.

Admittedly our situation is not dissimilar to what a lot of fans faced when the price hikes came through. Just like then for folks who just wanted to be in The Bank and went with the lower cost seats, we can downgrade our seats if that is an option. It took 15 years to get to where we sit now...which we like a lot...but so be it.

So yes, there's the dimension of whether there will even be a season...that we're being asked to pay for in advance...which is a serious discussion. And there's what might be happening in individual households taking an economic hit (even with our federal checks and/or unemployment on the way) that really is a disposable income issue.

Extending the commit date to at least when we think we may have hit the peak date would make for a better informed environment on a number of levels.
 



Great Plains Gopher said:
May push the deadline past April 16. Coyle will make the announcement. In all likelihood, unless some miracle meds pop up, part or all of the football season will be cancelled, in my view. The virus is just getting going and metro areas everywhere will be as critical as Seattle is now. Not as bad as NYC, but bad enough to cancel sports. Basically, we are all losing about a year of our lives, until a vaccine is ready in 2021.
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And your source of information is who..? Please stop speculating as you DO NOT know. All you know about in Seattle or New York is what you hear on the frenzied media. As far as loosing a year of our lives....because a season is cancelled? Really?
 



MNVCGUY said:
I get that this is serious but I really don't understand the rush to make decisions now about things that are scheduled in August and beyond. Football has the benefit of time to work with whereas the other sports had to make decisions right away.
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I agree some but it does not look good unless there is a breakthrough with at least symptom mitigation and much better treatment of those who contract the virus. People should be able to suspend their season tickets for a year whether there is a season or not. They can jump back in if they can and buy their seats for the season or a partial season.
If we have a season and you could not renew, your seat would be blocked until say Wednesday before a home game and then sold to the general public. This would give the season ticket holder at least first shot if they can at least go to a couple games.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
May push the deadline past April 16. Coyle will make the announcement. In all likelihood, unless some miracle meds pop up, part or all of the football season will be cancelled, in my view. The virus is just getting going and metro areas everywhere will be as critical as Seattle is now. Not as bad as NYC, but bad enough to cancel sports. Basically, we are all losing about a year of our lives, until a vaccine is ready in 2021.
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Wow. My BS meter went off the charts.

The seasonal flu deaths in the US have now skyrocketed past 20,000 and close to 30,000. And no one gives a shit.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
May push the deadline past April 16. Coyle will make the announcement. In all likelihood, unless some miracle meds pop up, part or all of the football season will be cancelled, in my view. The virus is just getting going and metro areas everywhere will be as critical as Seattle is now. Not as bad as NYC, but bad enough to cancel sports. Basically, we are all losing about a year of our lives, until a vaccine is ready in 2021.
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This is a wild speculation on my part, and not mean to scare anyone .... but I just don't see that a vaccine is going to be any kind of miracle, to be honest. I think it's going to be like the flu vaccine. You have to take it every year, and it may or may not prevent you from getting sick.

In everyone's mind, it feels like we've built up to "ok, just got to make it to the vaccine, and then it's all done". I don't think so. But I am a layperson, making a wild guess.


So, keep it on football: my vote is that we ask schools -- even if it's just the Big Ten teams, and we just play a Big Ten schedule and have a conf champ game -- if they're willing to test all players and staff before every game, to ensure everyone is still negative, and you play the games with no fans.
 

MNVCGUY said:
I get that this is serious but I really don't understand the rush to make decisions now about things that are scheduled in August and beyond. Football has the benefit of time to work with whereas the other sports had to make decisions right away.
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Once the U losses season ticket holders for a year, they will not get some of those people back ever again. I think Coyle knows that and I therefore think Great Plaines Gopher is flat out wrong for now. A cancelation will not come until required, not feared.

And where do we get the legal authority to cancel the Big Ten season, or indeed, any game without liability?
 
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We're still way too early, for an official decision on cancellation.

Bball is one thing. But football .... that's serious, serious money you're talking about evaporating into thin air. I think they (TV and sports leaders) will do everything in their power to keep some semblance of it alive.
 

MplsGopher said:
This is a wild speculation on my part, and not mean to scare anyone .... but I just don't see that a vaccine is going to be any kind of miracle, to be honest. I think it's going to be like the flu vaccine. You have to take it every year, and it may or may not prevent you from getting sick.

In everyone's mind, it feels like we've built up to "ok, just got to make it to the vaccine, and then it's all done". I don't think so. But I am a layperson, making a wild guess.


So, keep it on football: my vote is that we ask schools -- even if it's just the Big Ten teams, and we just play a Big Ten schedule and have a conf champ game -- if they're willing to test all players and staff before every game, to ensure everyone is still negative, and you play the games with no fans.
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From what I have been reading this morning the folks at John's Hopkins are saying that the virus is not mutating like the flu does each year and is more like small pox or chicken pox. A one time vaccine could be the answer in about 12 to 18 months. Many people will have dealt with the virus by then anyway.
 

GopherDog1 said:
From what I have been reading this morning the folks at John's Hopkins are saying that the virus is not mutating like the flu does each year and is more like small pox or chicken pox. A one time vaccine could be the answer in about 12 to 18 months. Many people will have dealt with the virus by then anyway.
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That would be great, if it is true.

There appear to be eight different strains (genomes) of the virus active across the globe, according to https://nextstrain.org/ncov .

But, just because a different strain emerges, I have no idea if that means a single vaccine can't be a "one ring to rule them all". Let's hope it can.
 

There are medical and social aspects to this.

I don't think it's as simple as someone says "all clear" and overnight, everyone goes back to the way it was before all this started.

Some people will be slower to come back than others. Some people will be more reluctant to go out and be part of a big crowd. Put a lot of people into the same space, all it takes is for one person to start coughing or sneezing, and people will mess their pants.

so, if games are held, I expect ticket sales and attendance to be down fairly significantly for at least a year.

And, as Bild noted, people who took more of a financial hit from this may decide that football tickets are a luxury they cannot afford.

So, complete speculation here, but I will predict that if all Gopher FB games are played as scheduled - they will not have any games that are sold-out or have full attendance.
 

MplsGopher said:
That would be great, if it is true.

There appear to be eight different strains (genomes) of the virus active across the globe, according to https://nextstrain.org/ncov .

But, just because a different strain emerges, I have no idea if that means a single vaccine can't be a "one ring to rule them all". Let's hope it can.
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More like Measles not small pox. My bad. It is out there though, not mutating very quickly at all but developing with several strains which these experts think could be knocked out with one vaccine. Who knows; I don't, that is for sure.
 

We just got rid of the "anyone worried" dumpster fire of a thread.

I Hope this one doesn't devolve into the sequel.
 


PhillyGopher said:
We just got rid of the "anyone worried" dumpster fire of a thread.

I Hope this one doesn't devolve into the sequel.
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How many ways can you have a conversation about "will football be cancelled?", especially at this point?
 

highwayman said:
Wow. My BS meter went off the charts.

The seasonal flu deaths in the US have now skyrocketed past 20,000 and close to 30,000. And no one gives a shit.
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And Fauci just warned that this could kill 100k - 200k Americans. This is not the flu.
 

From a strictly STH standpoint, I would appreciate an extension. We plan on renewing but I’d like to know what happens to my “donation” if the season doesn’t happen. I’m sorry to sound heartless in this terrible time. I’d like to hear the U’s plans. Let’s hope it doesn’t get to the point of canceling the season. Stay well!
 

Ok, let's put it this way.

Knowing what you know now (today) - would you be comfortable buying season tickets for the 2020 football season? (comfortable in the sense of no health or financial worries)

Sound off.
 

Veritas said:
Once the U losses season ticket holders for a year, they will not get some of those people back ever again. I think Coyle knows that and I therefore think Great Plaines Gopher is flat out wrong for now. A cancelation will not come until required, not feared.

And where do we get the legal authority to cancel the Big Ten season, or indeed, any game without liability?
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I agree with this 100%, it's a huge risk for a program like ours. If the season is played without fans or if fans come back tepid and much fewer than before, it will hurt our program more than most P5 programs I fear. I hope I'm wrong.

Go Gophers!!
 

The Vikings chime in:

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Vikings announced Friday they have extended the deadline for final season-ticket payments to June 1, which is 1 1/2 months later than the original due date of April 16.

The Vikings sent a message to season-ticket holders wishing them to remain “safe and healthy during these difficult times.” The message said the Vikings “have every expectation of playing a full schedule in 2020” and that the franchise will continue to provide any further updates.

www.twincities.com

Vikings extend deadline for season-ticket payments to June 1 due to coronavirus

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Vikings announced Friday they have extended the deadline for final season-ticket payments to June 1, which is 1 1/2 months later than the original due date of A…
www.twincities.com www.twincities.com

Go Gophers!!
 

How about this for a marketing ploy? If this year's season is canceled, for those who have already bought their tickets or are in the payment plan, in lieu of a full refund can donate a portion of their money to the U. In return, the U discounts next year's ticket the same amount up to say 50%.
 

I think we can fully expect to hear from the Sports Department this week.

Wink.

Wink.
 



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