Tubby is a master of in game adjustments

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No matter what he does it seems to work. He is making Lickliter look like he should be coaching highschool ball.
 

To be fair. I think Lickliter is getting A LOT out of what he has to work with. He knows he has to play Molinari ball (pack it way in on defense) to give Iowa a chance to win. That being said, Tubby has made a lot of good adjustments. The zone... the small line up... and playing Travis Busch.
 

Why didn't Tubby post up at least 1 big guy when Iowa went small in the 2nd half? Why did he pull Iverson for the whole 2nd half? Your right sanowai, whatever he does seems to work. I guess we just have a excellent bench and it doesn't matter who he plays. The twin towers thing didn't work so he went to no towers.
 

I thought Bostic was used very well tonite. When the offense wasnt doing anything inside the 3 point line Bostic came in and created some nice open shots for guys.
 

Gottleib is getting a lot of grief on this board, but he made an excellent observation. Early in the first half, Iowa was doing well with ball screens, getting mismatches on the switch and driving into the paint. The Gophs went to a lineup of like-sized players to neutralize the effect of the defensive switches. A brilliant tactical move.
 


Gottleib is getting a lot of grief on this board, but he made an excellent observation. Early in the first half, Iowa was doing well with ball screens, getting mismatches on the switch and driving into the paint. The Gophs went to a lineup of like-sized players to neutralize the effect of the defensive switches. A brilliant tactical move.

I think the switch to zone accomplished the same thing (getting rid of bad switch matchups).
 

No matter what he does it seems to work. He is making Lickliter look like he should be coaching highschool ball.

I'd give plenty of credit to the staff as well as the players, too. Head coaches get too much credit for W and too much blame for L sometimes.

You W or L as a team - coaches, players, and staff.
 

My beef with Gottlieb is his constant harping about Iowa not coming out of the ball screen offense. Sure it wasn't working, but what alternative did Coach Lickliter have? When Minnesota went small and got rid of the bad switches (as you all have posted), what should Iowa have done? The Coach Alford stand around offense? The wheel? After Tate went out, the Hawks didn't have an inside game and the Iowa players couldn't take anyone on the Gophers off the dribble and create a shot for themselves.

So what Genius Gottlieb, would you have done differently.

It's like complaining about the Vikings not having a more complex passing attack when Tavaris Jackson is the QB. Sure it would help if you could, but you don't have the personnel to do it.
 

I have a hard time getting a read on Gottlieb sometimes. He spent a lot of time talking about how the Big Ten wasn't an elite conference during the first half, then kind of reversed course and talked about how even and balanced the league is :confused:

Also, he talked about how the Big Ten had the second highest RPI as a conference, but he then said that he considers the Big Ten a middle tier conference. :confused:

And yeah, I agree with St. PaulHawkeye on this one, what could Lickliter have done all that much differently?? The Hawks lack athletes and depth right now and a coach knows what his players can and can't do. Lickliter is catching a lot of heat on the Iowa boards for last night and I don't think a whole lot of it is justified for the simple reason that the Big Ten is, as Gottlieb said, very balanced. The difference between winning and losing on a given night just isn't very much.

Overall, I was impressed with the effort level both Iowa and the Gophers put forth. I don't think it necessarily a well played game, but I can't really fault the effort level of both teams.
 



My beef with Gottlieb is his constant harping about Iowa not coming out of the ball screen offense. Sure it wasn't working, but what alternative did Coach Lickliter have? When Minnesota went small and got rid of the bad switches (as you all have posted), what should Iowa have done? The Coach Alford stand around offense? The wheel? After Tate went out, the Hawks didn't have an inside game and the Iowa players couldn't take anyone on the Gophers off the dribble and create a shot for themselves.

So what Genius Gottlieb, would you have done differently.

It's like complaining about the Vikings not having a more complex passing attack when Tavaris Jackson is the QB. Sure it would help if you could, but you don't have the personnel to do it.

I thought he was right on. Tubby adjusted. The offense became less than ineffective. So Lick is just supposed to give up and throw in the towel?

"Good job, Tubby. You win. Man, you solved our offense quicker than I thought. Thanks for coming down to (a 1/3 full) CHA."

BS. As Dougie also pointed out, your best player was being guarded by TB. The slowest Gopher on the floor. Instead of trying to take advantage of it, Lick stared at the ground. BB, more than any other sport, is about adjusting on the fly. Lickliter was either incapable or unwilling to even try to switch things up. You're telling me the only offense he's taught them in 2 years is the high ball-screen? No motion, flex, high post, down-screen, Iso? Nothing else? If that's the case, good luck with him.
 

Gottlieb said exactly what he would have done—get the ball to Gatens and let him go one-on-one when Busch got him on the switch. I'm not sure that would've worked, but that is what he said he'd do.
 

GoGoGophers,

Motion offense: Predicated on the away from the ball screen, not a ball screen. Gophers were switching on the screens, not just ball screens. No advantage Iowa.
Flex: Predicated on the away from the ball screen, not a ball screen. Gophers were switching on the screens, not just ball screens. No advantage Iowa.
High post: Coach Lickliter adjusted and had Matt Gatens in the high post in the second half. Name a viable option for the Hawkeyes in the low post? Tate was out with an injury, forcing Cole to play the entire time until he got in foul trouble. Maybe Brommer could have done there? Instead of true high post offense, it was more of a 2-1-2 set.
Down-screen: Predicated on the away from the ball screen, not a ball screen. Gophers were switching on the screens, not just ball screens. No advantage Iowa.
ISO: Yes, they could have isolated Gatens (as Gottlieb kept calling for) on TB. Gatens as a freshman needs to step up and call for the ball more, be more aggressive, and assert himself, especially in the absence of Tucker. That is something that will either come or it won't. I will give Mr. Gottlieb credit for that insight.

Maybe, instead of throwing in the towel as you say, he could have gone to something that would have been equally ineffective? Why don't you list out a bunch of zone offenses in your next post that the Hawkeyes could have tried?

I think you will agree that the Gophers were a more athletic, more talented, and deeper than the Iowa team that was on the floor for much of the second half.
 

No way to know if it would have been ineffective unless he tried it. One would think that a nine minute field goal drought would have brought on a little risk taking or creativity.
 



Okay, I'll give you that. He could have taken a risk and been creative. In the why not try it category, what have you got to lose sense, I can see your point.

They had some other guys on their bench. They're not very good at this point, but why not bring 'em in just to be creative? Maybe switch up Brommer and have him play point guard? He couldn't have done any worse. I mean, they did have a 9 minute FG drought.
 

If you are happy with your coach, more power to you. We couldn't be happier!
 

No way to know if it would have been ineffective unless he tried it. One would think that a nine minute field goal drought would have brought on a little risk taking or creativity.

Correct.

Who knows if the Gophers would have been as effective switching on away from the ball screens, but thankfully Lickliter didn't see any reason to switch things up. Apparently, he thought that just leaving #15 on the floor chucking 3's from the wing was a better option over that critical 10 minute stretch.

While it did appear that the Gophers have more depth and ability, they are a very young team and have had some serious breakdowns in half court defense. They are not real good on D when they can't press and force TOs. However, defensive shortcomings are not as apparent when the opposing coach/team has no idea what they're doing.

I thought it was great and appreciated his coaching. I hope for more of the same in future meetings.
 

You are probably right; Coach Lickliter probably should have done more during that stretch than just move Gatens to the high post. Perhaps he should have told him to take his man off the dribble more. I don't believe any coach is above questioning and you guys raise vaild points.

Yes, I am happy with our coach. I am never happy with a loss, but I was pleasantly suprised with the way the Hawkeyes played. I would not have guessed that, without Tate and Tucker, Iowa would be in the game in the last minutes.

Best of luck to you. The Gophers are a young team and will continue to get better under Coach Smith.
 

Lick....did a good job.

His talent is weak right now, and when the post player went down, he has to just try and keep it close and steal the game at the end, and he almost did it!

He will still need to upgrade the talent to win consistantly in the BT, but anyone can beat anyone on a given night at home in this league.....in fact the Hawks were favored last night.
 




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