Transitive properties - for fun

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I get it, comparing scores can often be silly. You can say Team A beat team B and and team B beat team C therefore Team A would beat team C too. And, if you do this enough you can create paths where Augsburg would beat Alabama. So, with the understanding that it is often BS to make these comparisons - just for fun - what would the Gophers have looked like in the SEC this season, making the reach that the Gophers would be as good or better than Auburn, but playing from Minneapolis - How would MN fare?

Game 1 - Oregon at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - Gophers outgain Ducks by a wider margin than Auburn did. Win by a bigger margin

Game 2 - Tulane at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - 'nuff said

Game 3 - Kent State at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - blowout

Game 4 - @aTm WIN - close victory on the road

Game 5 - Mississippi State at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - comfortable win

Game 6 - @Florida LOSS - Gophers lose by a field goal on the road where the stats are closer than what Auburn achieved.

Game 7 - @Arkansas WIN - Blowout

Game 8 - @LSU LOSS - first downs and yardage differential closer than what Auburn achieved but lose by a field goal like Auburn did.

Game 9 - Ole Miss at TCF bank Stadium WIN - Ole Miss has to deal with statistically better MN team and MN temps. Bigger margin than what Auburn achieved.

Game 10 - Georgia at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - Georgia has to play in mid November at MN and not only loses statistical battle like they did against Auburn, but the battle for the higher score as well.

Game 11 - Samford at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - Blowout, Gophers get to enjoy the SEC tradition of late season cream puffs.

Game 12 - Alabama at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - All our fantasies about seeing an SEC have to play in the snow come true as Alabama visits Minneapolis two days after Thanksgiving in the middle of that big weather system that combined snow and sleet with high winds.


There it is... just for fun using comparisons that often do not hold water. But, for fun... 10-2 in the SEC just like the 10-2 achieved in the B1G. If so, would the Gophers still be ranked in the selection committee rankings all the way down at 18? I doubt it.

I tried to go to great lengths to say this is just for fun and transitive properties are typically not good indicators of who would win a game, but as I post this I will begin the countdown to the first person to tell me what I am already saying I know, as if I don't know it. I'm aware the Gophers struggled at different times compared to Auburn, particularly during the non conference schedule. I get it. :)
 
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Minnesota State - Mankato beat TX A&M Commerce 42-21
TX A&M Commerce beat Midwest TX St 54-28
Midwest TX St beat Northwestern LA 33-7
Northwestern LA beat Incarnate Word 44-41
Incarnate Word beat SE Louisiana 27-21
SE Louisiana beat Cent Arkansas 34-0
Cent Arkansas beat WKU 35-28
WKU beat W Michigan 23-20
W Michigan beat C Michigan 31-15
C Michigan beat E Michigan 42-16
E Michigan beat Illinois 34-31
Illinois beat Wisconsin 24-23

Minnesota State - Mankato > Wisconsin
 


St John's MN beat Wheaton IL 34-33
Wheaton IL beat N Central IL 35-21
N Central IL beat WI Whitewater 41-14
WI Whitewater beat St Xavier IL 28-20
St Xavier IL beat R Morris Chi 31-28
R Morris Chi beat Taylor IN 31-14
Taylor IN beat Butler 17-14
Butler beat Jacksonville 24-14
Jacksonville beat Presbyterian 30-20
Presbyterian beat Gardner Webb 24-14
Gardner Webb beat W Carolina 24-21
W Carolina beat VMI 43-35
VMI beat Citadel 34-21
Citadel beat Georgia Tech 27-24
Georgia Tech beat South Florida 14-10
South Florida beat BYU 27-23
BYU beat Tennessee 29-26
Tennessee beat South Carolina 41-21
South Carolina beat Georgia 20-17
Georgia beat Auburn 21-14
Auburn beat Alabama 48-45

Saint John's > Alabama
 

I get it, comparing scores can often be silly. You can say Team A beat team B and and team B beat team C therefore Team A would beat team C too. And, if you do this enough you can create paths where Augsburg would beat Alabama. So, with the understanding that it is often BS to make these comparisons - just for fun - what would the Gophers have looked like in the SEC this season, making the reach that the Gophers would be as good or better than Auburn, but playing from Minneapolis - How would MN fare?

Game 1 - Oregon at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - Gophers outgain Ducks by a wider margin than Auburn did. Win by a bigger margin

Game 2 - Tulane at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - 'nuff said

Game 3 - Kent State at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - blowout

Game 4 - @aTm WIN - close victory on the road

Game 5 - Mississippi State at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - comfortable win

Game 6 - @Florida LOSS - Gophers lose by a field goal on the road where the stats are closer than what Auburn achieved.

Game 7 - @Arkansas WIN - Blowout

Game 8 - @LSU LOSS - first downs and yardage differential closer than what Auburn achieved but lose by a field goal like Auburn did.

Game 9 - Ole Miss at TCF bank Stadium WIN - Ole Miss has to deal with statistically better MN team and MN temps. Bigger margin than what Auburn achieved.

Game 10 - Georgia at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - Georgia has to play in mid November at MN and not only loses statistical battle like they did against Auburn, but the battle for the higher score as well.

Game 11 - Samford at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - Blowout, Gophers get to enjoy the SEC tradition of late season cream puffs.

Game 12 - Alabama at TCF Bank Stadium WIN - All our fantasies about seeing an SEC have to play in the snow come true as Alabama visits Minneapolis two days after Thanksgiving in the middle of that big weather system that combined snow and sleet with high winds.


There it is... just for fun using comparisons that often do not hold water. But, for fun... 10-2 in the SEC just like the 10-2 achieved in the B1G. If so, would the Gophers still be ranked in the selection committee rankings all the way down at 18? I doubt it.

I tried to go to great lengths to say this is just for fun and transitive properties are typically not good indicators of who would win a game, but as I post this I will begin the countdown to the first person to tell me what I am already saying I know, as if I don't know it. I'm aware the Gophers struggled at different times compared to Auburn, particularly during the non conference schedule. I get it. :)
It's almost like you're saying that you think we're better than Auburn. Almost. I could also easily see the Gophers losing 5 games with that schedule and no one being overly upset (Oregon, Bama, Georgia, LSU, Florida).
 


St John's MN beat Wheaton IL 34-33
Wheaton IL beat N Central IL 35-21
N Central IL beat WI Whitewater 41-14
WI Whitewater beat St Xavier IL 28-20
St Xavier IL beat R Morris Chi 31-28
R Morris Chi beat Taylor IN 31-14
Taylor IN beat Butler 17-14
Butler beat Jacksonville 24-14
Jacksonville beat Presbyterian 30-20
Presbyterian beat Gardner Webb 24-14
Gardner Webb beat W Carolina 24-21
W Carolina beat VMI 43-35
VMI beat Citadel 34-21
Citadel beat Georgia Tech 27-24
Georgia Tech beat South Florida 14-10
South Florida beat BYU 27-23
BYU beat Tennessee 29-26
Tennessee beat South Carolina 41-21
South Carolina beat Georgia 20-17
Georgia beat Auburn 21-14
Auburn beat Alabama 48-45

Saint John's > Alabama

Awesome job on all 3 of these WLoT, but this one was my favorite.
 

St John's MN beat Wheaton IL 34-33
Wheaton IL beat N Central IL 35-21
N Central IL beat WI Whitewater 41-14
WI Whitewater beat St Xavier IL 28-20
St Xavier IL beat R Morris Chi 31-28
R Morris Chi beat Taylor IN 31-14
Taylor IN beat Butler 17-14
Butler beat Jacksonville 24-14
Jacksonville beat Presbyterian 30-20
Presbyterian beat Gardner Webb 24-14
Gardner Webb beat W Carolina 24-21
W Carolina beat VMI 43-35
VMI beat Citadel 34-21
Citadel beat Georgia Tech 27-24
Georgia Tech beat South Florida 14-10
South Florida beat BYU 27-23
BYU beat Tennessee 29-26
Tennessee beat South Carolina 41-21
South Carolina beat Georgia 20-17
Georgia beat Auburn 21-14
Auburn beat Alabama 48-45

Saint John's > Alabama

This is gold. Solid gold.
 

I like how you mentioned the cold weather argument. I think that should be brought up more on a national scale and try to get some SEC/ACC school up north in November. I know it won't work due to conference schedules, but it make for an interesting topic.
 




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