This Year Brewster's Real Recruiting Test

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It was nice that Brewster was able to lock down the state this past year, with the exception of McNeal. But honestly, it wasn't exactly a great class of seniors. Next year's in-state group is going to have a lot of options and Brewster is going to have bigger fish than Bielema and Ferentz to contend with. He's going to lose some, but not allowing the flood gates to open will be key.

It'll be a watershed season for Brewster in many ways- typical contract extension year, new stadium expectations, a tough non-conference schedule, and a local recruiting class with a lot of national recruits.
 

Next year's prospects

akgopher said:
It was nice that Brewster was able to lock down the state this past year, with the exception of McNeal. But honestly, it wasn't exactly a great class of seniors. Next year's in-state group is going to have a lot of options and Brewster is going to have bigger fish than Bielema and Ferentz to contend with. He's going to lose some, but not allowing the flood gates to open will be key.

It'll be a watershed season for Brewster in many ways- typical contract extension year, new stadium expectations, a tough non-conference schedule, and a local recruiting class with a lot of national recruits.
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I agree mostly - see my post http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?t=2833:cool:
 

Brewster has already past the recruiting test. Now he needs to start winning football games.
 

It's a huge year for him and his stature at Minnesota. It could go either way, he could lose a bunch of in-state kids and go 3-9 and have the end in sight, or he could lock down one of the best classes in recent memory and over-achieve and go 8-5 or 9-4 and be a hot commodity when high profile jobs open.
 

I'm looking forward to see how much the recruiting lounge inside the new stadium will help things out. Now recruits will get to hang out there instead of an ugly white tent.
 


I don't think we have to worry about next years numbers. I think it'll be a full class, plus our instate talent will be ranked well that should all help.

I don't think this years class was weak. There was no floyd, but but his class compares just fine with other years. Hageman is going to make a big diff. If anythink I think our state is showing great depth. A ton of guys just under the radar. It's a good sign for the future.
 


It'll be interesting to find out. When will rivals post their 2010 list? anybody recall when this happens.
 




McNeal, Hageman, Alipate, and Garin aren't exactly chop liver. They were all 4 star recruits on either Rivals, Scout, or ESPN and each made post season All-star games and made a positive impression nationally. Those are 4 nice players most programs would kill to have. But I agree...the '10 class is on a different level. Anytime Minnesota produces a top 10 player, it's a big deal(which rarely happens). Next year Minnesota might produce the nation's most sought after player in Henderson and another 5 players on par with the top 4 in '09.

I think the '09 class was pretty good in retrospect after signing day and I think we'll look back in 4 years and say as much. I've met all 4 of these kids and they all have an attitude that will allow them to thrive (unlike some DT from Eden Prairie 4 years ago that we shall keep nameless). Having said that, I think the '10 class can be special from what I've seen, heard, and read.
 

Henderson can choose where he goes. Gjere and Allen will likely have options with various perennial Top 25 teams and could be top 100 players. Those three could be Floyd, Fitzgerald, Barber, Laurinatius type players. Brewster needs to get at least one or two of those guys and the other 2-4 guys who could be 4 star recruits.
 

As I have not seen anything on the playing from any Brewster recruit that would be anything special, I will reserve my view on Brewster as a recruiter. After all, theoretically, I thought the purpose of recruiting was to put quality players on the football field.
 

Goldy74s said:
As I have not seen anything on the playing from any Brewster recruit that would be anything special, I will reserve my view on Brewster as a recruiter. After all, theoretically, I thought the purpose of recruiting was to put quality players on the football field.
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Theoretically I thought the purpose of gopherhole is so gopher fans could discuss gopher related topics with other fans. Instead we are stuck reading your nonsense. I haven't seen anything from you as a poster that is anything special. Nobody really wants to argue about what value recruiting rankings actually have, whether or not a person could be called a successful recruiter if his team does not win a title, or if it is acceptable to average the number stars for a group of recruits. If is February and all of the people on this board like college football enough where they just want to discuss the future of gopher football in 2009 and beyond. You make this less fun.

Find something else to do.
 



Nicely said and so on the mark. But the guy is oblivious to the rest of the world so it'll do no good except to entertain the rest of us who agree.
 

Goldy74s said:
As I have not seen anything on the playing from any Brewster recruit that would be anything special, I will reserve my view on Brewster as a recruiter. After all, theoretically, I thought the purpose of recruiting was to put quality players on the football field.
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You're right, Traye Simmons did nothing last season. I don't know what the coaches and media was thinking when they voted him 2nd Team All Conference.

Aside from BPT I would have preferred that we didn't have Simoni Lawrence, Tramaine Brock or Brandon Green because we would have been much better off with Mannion at Linebacker and I'm sure we could have found somebody better at WR and Safety although there didn't seem to be anyone leftover from Mason.
 


grunkiejr said:
You're right, Traye Simmons did nothing last season. I don't know what the coaches and media was thinking when they voted him 2nd Team All Conference.

Aside from BPT I would have preferred that we didn't have Simoni Lawrence, Tramaine Brock or Brandon Green because we would have been much better off with Mannion at Linebacker and I'm sure we could have found somebody better at WR and Safety although there didn't seem to be anyone leftover from Mason.
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So you think the impact of last year's recruiting class was above average? As an educated person perhaps you noticed that I was saying that I thought that they were not above average, especially the freshmen. Two JC's (one of whom has already left) and one half fair freshman seemed rather underwhelming.
 

Chi-town, do you mean "the purpose of gopherhole is so gopher fans could discuss gopher related topics with other fans" who agree with you on every issue?

Do you need to be a gatekeeper or are you just trying to be rude?
 

Goldy74s said:
So you think the impact of last year's recruiting class was above average? As an educated person perhaps you noticed that I was saying that I thought that they were not above average, especially the freshmen. Two JC's (one of whom has already left) and one half fair freshman seemed rather underwhelming.
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Actually 3 Jucos (Simmons, Lawrence, Brock) had a big impact. McKinley seemed to come on in the bowl game (2 sacks) but it was only one game so we'll have to see if he can continue that in to next season.

I think for freshman, they had an above average impact. Freshman rarely make an impact in the Big Ten. Green had a bigger impact as a freshman than Posey at OSU did last year and Posey was a 5-star recruit. Stoudermire had a positive impact in the kick return game. Eskridge/Salamon were adequate at running back but were not near as ready to play as Barber or Maroney when they came in earlier this decade; I can't remember any other freshman RB's that carried the ball as much as those two in the last 10 years. Where I saw the biggest impact was on the improvement in special teams coverage and that was Johnson, Dandridge, Lair, McKnight, etc and their contribution goes largely unnoticed because it is special teams. We still haven't seen the top three rated freshman from that class (Cooper-redshirted, Gray-grayshirted, Maresh-grayshirted).
 

Grunkiejr is right on with his comments about the 2008 freshmen class. I am looking forward to seeing this class develop along with Reeves, Cooper, Maresh and Gray and the other red-shirts.
I would think they will all make big strides this fall and several will be all-conference players in 2 years as juniors. When the 2009 freshmen class is combined with the 2008 class, I think Brewster is developing depth that hasn't been on the Gopher football team in decades. With the DT gray-shirting this fall and Ward possibly signing next week, the last 2 classes will turn this program into the program Gopher fans have been waiting decades to cheer for. Remember these players are only 18-19 years-old right now with their best days right in front of them. Brewster has done a great job filling a near-empty cupboard and the Gopher fans need to let him keep bringing in talent and let the coach's do their jobs. Brewster has been a tireless and relentless worker from day one and we can't say that about the previous regime. The new stadium will be a huge factor with many recruits this upcoming season also. I look forward to the Spring Game in a couple months to see how much bigger and stronger the team as a whole will be. I know for a fact some of the O-Linemen are already 10-15 lbs bigger than 3 months ago.
 

Its kind of embarrassing how some fans in MN are so ignorant to how college football works these days. What 5% of freshmen in the nation come in and actually see significant playing time, and we get guys like Goldy74s that act like every kid should be like Herschel Walker.

Grunkiejr- You 100% are dead on! Last years class is going to see a lot of action and the best part is that three of the biggest recruits from that class will still be freshmen.
 

It is somewhat embarassing isn't it. Yet these same people claim to be long time fans and in some cases season ticket holders. You'd think they'd pay more attention.
 

Schnoodler said:
It is somewhat embarassing isn't it. Yet these same people claim to be long time fans and in some cases season ticket holders. You'd think they'd pay more attention.
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I wish these a-holes would get off the board, they are such depressing people. And they always use the line "we are just offering other points of view, don't you accept other POV?" Idiots that come on here and only make negative posts acting like they offer an unbiased POV, what a bunch of morons.
 

Goldy74s said:
Chi-town, do you mean "the purpose of gopherhole is so gopher fans could discuss gopher related topics with other fans" who agree with you on every issue?

Do you need to be a gatekeeper or are you just trying to be rude?
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Could you please list all the above average players Mason left Brewster besides Decker and Weber. The whole reason they are in this position is that the JR & SR classes is bare, because your buddy got very lazy. We now are pinning our hopes on redshirt and true freshmen to win in the Big Ten, boy thats a good idea! Brewster is playing with only two classes, since we neglected those few years.
 

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