This would give me a whole 'nuther reason to hate nd


LOL. Can you imagine the meltdown that Notre Dame fans would have if they actually hired Bielema?
 


VT fans inspired me with their chants of 'Keep Al Groh' at Scott Stadium. So let me be first to say 'Keep Beilema, Becky!'.
 

VT fans inspired me with their chants of 'Keep Al Groh' at Scott Stadium. So let me be first to say 'Keep Beilema, Becky!'.

I really hate Bielema and all but...you do realize he's 4-0 against us right?
 


The only candidate they should look at

In Madison is Barry Alverez. He was a defensive coordinator and recruiter for Holtz at ND for the Championship.

It use to be the subway alumni connections who could land that big name with no notice. This pandering here and there is not the ND of the past. They would have announced Jon Gruden today.
 

I really hate Bielema and all but...you do realize he's 4-0 against us right?

Of course. It was semi-tongue in cheek. I guess I could see them getting worse if he left, but I could also see them getting better. It's an interesting debate.
 

You guys are funny. Bielema is 36-14 at Wisconsin. Let me know when Brewster wins 36 games. He might do it as a TE coach at his next job. ND could do a lot worse. I doubt he is going anywhere, but you never know.
 

You guys are funny. Bielema is 36-14 at Wisconsin. Let me know when Brewster wins 36 games. He might do it as a TE coach at his next job. ND could do a lot worse. I doubt he is going anywhere, but you never know.

Don't you know that Brew's already won well over 100 games in his 'coaching career'? His career record is quite impressive. :cool:
 



You guys are funny. Bielema is 36-14 at Wisconsin. Let me know when Brewster wins 36 games.

I'm not denying Coach Bielema's on-field success GV. In actuality, I think Coach Bielema, just like Coach Meyer at Florida, seems like a great fit for Notre Dame. A fanbase as riddled with *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#baggery as Notre Dame's deserve a coach that embraces those same principles.
 

Don't you know that Brew's already won well over 100 games in his 'coaching career'? His career record is quite impressive. :cool:

Actually it's over 220, if you count his time as a water boy.
 

I too hope Beliemia stays put. he's way to easy to hate and I can't wait to see him tumble off of Barry's coat tails.
 





Brewster put his house for sale the same week notre dame is expected to name a coach. I think they're hiring coach Brew.
 

This is kind of amusing

Obviously Notre Dame isn't going to hire Bret Bielema but I know one person that I'd REALLY like to see ND consider;

Wisky's Paul Chryst.

If Bielema ever loses Chryst, his days in Madison will be numbered. Chryst makes BB look much much better than he is. I gotta say though, I don't know that I heard BB say one idiotic and immature thing all season, although I wasn't paying close attention. Perhaps the maturity level is on the rise? Or maybe Barry has just sat down with him enough times to make a dent.

I know the Rodents were once considering Chryst and the reason I wouldn't have minded it is it would have hurt Wisky MUCH more than it helped the Gophers. I know even in my business I'm a HUGE fan of hiring some of the competition's best talent. It's a double whammy; You improve your pool of talent, and significantly weaken the competition. No lose situation.

I still think ND is going to be Patterson from TCU or the Cincy coach, but we'll see...
 

I too hope Beliemia stays put. he's way to easy to hate and I can't wait to see him tumble off of Barry's coat tails.

You are going to have to wait another 4 or 5 years. The Badgers are the 5th youngest team and return 10 starters on offense next year, including the entire offensive line and the Big Ten offensive player of the year.

Funny, they are all players that Bielema and his staff recruited.

Keep wishing though, maybe it helps you sleep at night.
 


Obviously Notre Dame isn't going to hire Bret Bielema but I know one person that I'd REALLY like to see ND consider;

Wisky's Paul Chryst.

If Bielema ever loses Chryst, his days in Madison will be numbered. Chryst makes BB look much much better than he is. I gotta say though, I don't know that I heard BB say one idiotic and immature thing all season, although I wasn't paying close attention. Perhaps the maturity level is on the rise? Or maybe Barry has just sat down with him enough times to make a dent.

I know the Rodents were once considering Chryst and the reason I wouldn't have minded it is it would have hurt Wisky MUCH more than it helped the Gophers. I know even in my business I'm a HUGE fan of hiring some of the competition's best talent. It's a double whammy; You improve your pool of talent, and significantly weaken the competition. No lose situation.

I still think ND is going to be Patterson from TCU or the Cincy coach, but we'll see...

You make some great points. Bielema defintiely matured this year. Last year humbled him and he and his staff did a great job this year with a very young team. No matter how many times other people say it on this board, he is not ruining the program and the future is very, very bright.

You also certainly understand how important Chryst is to the success of the Badgers. He has turned down a number of jobs to stay in Madison and he does an amazing job with that offense. While the Badgers bread and butter is running the ball, Chryst runs a pro style offense with multiple formations and orchestrates a very effective passing game. I think he makes about 600k a year, so he is going to have to get offered a big job to leave. He is one of the best offensive minds in the country and what he has done with the Badgers offense is very impressive.

Very good post overall.
 

If Chryst is looking for his first college head coaching gig, the Akron job is likely there for the taking, if he wants to take on that challenge.

I don't think he wants it. I don't think they can pay him enough to make it worth leaving. He loves Madison and has turned down better jobs.
 

You are going to have to wait another 4 or 5 years. The Badgers are the 5th youngest team and return 10 starters on offense next year, including the entire offensive line and the Big Ten offensive player of the year.

Funny, they are all players that Bielema and his staff recruited.

Keep wishing though, maybe it helps you sleep at night.

GVBadger,

could you please tell me what was the marquee win for this young badger team this year? was it the three point victory to the gophers--a team that we all agree is pretty average?

i don't think it would be a stretch to say that the gophers might have gone 9-3 with that daunting schedule of the badgers.

fresno state was the toughest non-con. other than that: wofford, hawaii, niu. in conference there was no PSU and the two worst big ten teams: michigan in madison, indiana. wisconsin's 9-3 record is not as impressive when you consider that schedule. the five good matchups were at osu--loss, vs iowa--loss, @NU, a team the gophers beat--loss, MSU, a team that minnesota beat--fourth quarter win, and @minnesota--very close win. i would say that minnesota and wisconsin are very close to being equal, all things considered.

gopher fans pretty much expect a loss in the bowl game, i think that badger fans should be very prepared to get worked over in the cap one by vastly superior team for a second consecutive year.
 

You are going to have to wait another 4 or 5 years. The Badgers are the 5th youngest team and return 10 starters on offense next year, including the entire offensive line and the Big Ten offensive player of the year.

Funny, they are all players that Bielema and his staff recruited.

Keep wishing though, maybe it helps you sleep at night.

The players for Wisconsin are all players that Bielema recruited before Minnesota had TCF Bank Stadium. Now that we have the Bank, recruits that may have normally gone to Wisconsin are now coming to Minnesota. Wisconsin is 9th in the Big 10 for recruiting this year with not one Minnesota kid. With Bielema as the coach, I don't see this improving much over the next few years.

Once Clay and the rest of the offense is gone, Wisconsin will be the average team and Minnesota will be the team bringing the axe home year after year. :)
 

GVBadger,

could you please tell me what was the marquee win for this young badger team this year? was it the three point victory to the gophers--a team that we all agree is pretty average?

i don't think it would be a stretch to say that the gophers might have gone 9-3 with that daunting schedule of the badgers.

fresno state was the toughest non-con. other than that: wofford, hawaii, niu. in conference there was no PSU and the two worst big ten teams: michigan in madison, indiana. wisconsin's 9-3 record is not as impressive when you consider that schedule. the five good matchups were at osu--loss, vs iowa--loss, @NU, a team the gophers beat--loss, MSU, a team that minnesota beat--fourth quarter win, and @minnesota--very close win. i would say that minnesota and wisconsin are very close to being equal, all things considered.

gopher fans pretty much expect a loss in the bowl game, i think that badger fans should be very prepared to get worked over in the cap one by vastly superior team for a second consecutive year.

WOW. The excuses that people come up with on the Gopher Hole are are just mind numbing. If you are actually arguing that a (3-5, 6-6) Gopher team is an equal team to a (5-3, 9-3), No. 22 ranked Badger team, who the Badgers manhandled in the opening big ten game of their brand spankin new-empty stadium you are absolutely DELUSIONAL. Why is it that you all just simply can't bring yourselves to acknowledge that UW has a great program?

You really think the Gophers would have beat Northern Illinois, Fresno State, or even Hawaii for that matter? I'll give you the Wofford victory, but that one is still a toss-up for the absolutely inept and clueless offense lead by the absolutely inept and clueless Fisch and Brewster.

What more do Bielema and the Badgers have to do to get some respect from Gopher fans? Just continue to beat your program like a drum for the majority of the past 20 years? You've proved that that won't change your mind, so what do they need to do?

And curiously, how can Gopher fans think that Bielema sounds like an immature meathead when you all blindly follow the biggest BS artist in college football history? Every time Brewster opens his mouth he sounds like a fool.
 

The players for Wisconsin are all players that Bielema recruited before Minnesota had TCF Bank Stadium. Now that we have the Bank, recruits that may have normally gone to Wisconsin are now coming to Minnesota. Wisconsin is 9th in the Big 10 for recruiting this year with not one Minnesota kid. With Bielema as the coach, I don't see this improving much over the next few years.

Once Clay and the rest of the offense is gone, Wisconsin will be the average team and Minnesota will be the team bringing the axe home year after year. :)

Keep putting all your stock in what Rivals is saying about Brewsters recruiting. I can assure you Badger fans would not trade their recruiting class for Brewsters class. Funny, Wisconsin has always finished lower in the recruiting rankings, so why the hell is it that they always finish near the top of the B10 on the field?

If only they gave out Big Ten championships for Rivals recruiting rankings, then SURELY Pasadena Tim would be watching the Rose Bowl parade this season or next.

We badger fans will just have to go feel bad about our recruits that actually win games on the field.
 


Chryst coached against me during his stint at Memorial. Still I would give him a free bucket of balls at vitense. You get good freebies by sticking around town.

In case anyone cares. yup 2009 Badger FB had a better season than 2009 Gopher FB. Here is to a new decade hopefully with some top 3 BT finishes for Goph FB!
 

Wow...

WOW. The excuses that people come up with on the Gopher Hole are are just mind numbing. If you are actually arguing that a (3-5, 6-6) Gopher team is an equal team to a (5-3, 9-3), No. 22 ranked Badger team, who the Badgers manhandled in the opening big ten game of their brand spankin new-empty stadium you are absolutely DELUSIONAL. Why is it that you all just simply can't bring yourselves to acknowledge that UW has a great program?

You really think the Gophers would have beat Northern Illinois, Fresno State, or even Hawaii for that matter? I'll give you the Wofford victory, but that one is still a toss-up for the absolutely inept and clueless offense lead by the absolutely inept and clueless Fisch and Brewster.

What more do Bielema and the Badgers have to do to get some respect from Gopher fans? Just continue to beat your program like a drum for the majority of the past 20 years? You've proved that that won't change your mind, so what do they need to do?
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Okay, I finally had to speak up here. First off, I completely agree with you that there are some people who bag on Wisconsin without much merit. No doubt, Wisconsin has had some really good success in recent memory and some of the above-mentioned comments are just out of line.

But good grief, the perception of some Badger fans that the two programs are light years apart is just ridiculous. Are you really serious? Talk about the other end of the spectrum...

Is Wisconsin a better program than Minnesota right now? Absolutely. But these Badger fans who think there's a Grand Canyon between them are just amazing.

Head to head, the Gophers won the Axe in 2001, 2003, were a miraculous blocked punt for a TD for Wisky from winning in 2005, and a pair of FG victories for Wisconsin this year and last year (not to mention only beating MN by a TD in a year that MN was 1-11?).

And on top of that, to suggest that Wisky is some kind of elite program, that's just not being reasonable. Take this year for example; Wisconsin did about what any decent team would hope to do in any given season; they won the games they should have won (with the possible exception of getting dumped by Northwestern). Nothing more, nothing less. Conversely, they didn't win a single game that would have been an "upset" or a really great win.

Nothing wrong with that, not one bit. They had opportunities to win big games and lose bad games but for the most part, did not. By my definition, that's a good season and I would be happy with that.

On the flip side, Minnesota did almost the same thing. They lost a game to Illinois that they should have won, but did manage to beat Northwestern on the road, something the Badgers could not do.

Basically, with the same schedule as the Gophers (carrying over WI's loss to NU), the Badgers would have likely gone 7-5. Yes, I think Cal would have beaten the Badgers.

Some people forget the fine line between winning and losing sometimes. Wisconsin's done very well and should be proud of their recent history but to keep suggesting that MN's program is 3-4 tiers down is just plain ignorant.
 

Is Wisconsin better than Minnesota right now? Yes, of course. But both programs have played in the same number of BCS games over the last 10 years: 0. Delusions of grandeur by either fan base are ridiculous.

I also think it's worth pointing out that Wisconsin could win every game against Minnesota for the next 6 years and still not have as many head-to-head victories.
 


Congrats to the Badgers for going 9-3 but it is true, none of their victories were impressive. They beat the teams they should have with the exception of Northwestern. Badgers have taken advantage of light schedules before though. In their two recent Rose Bowl appearances, they didn't face the second-place team in the Big Ten.
 




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