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Think you have unbiased rankings? I built a quiz for you to test yourself.
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Post quiz rankings: (who I would have)
1) Oregon
2) texas
3) penn state
4) SMU (Ohio State)
5) Georgia
6) Ohio State (Notre dame)
7) Boise state (smu)
8) Indiana
9) notre Dame (Tennessee)
10) Tennessee (Boise)
11) army (Miami)
12) Alabama (South Carolina)
13) Miami (Alabama)
14) Clemson (Ole Miss)
15) South Carolina (Arizona State)
I think bad losses and number of losses are the first factors for me.
Post quiz rankings: (who I would have)
1) Oregon
2) texas
3) penn state
4) SMU (Ohio State)
5) Georgia
6) Ohio State (Notre dame)
7) Boise state (smu)
8) Indiana
9) notre Dame (Tennessee)
10) Tennessee (Boise)
11) army (Miami)
12) Alabama (South Carolina)
13) Miami (Alabama)
14) Clemson (Ole Miss)
15) South Carolina (Arizona State)
I think bad losses and number of losses are the first factors for me.
upnorthkid
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We have pretty similar rankings
The thing about me is that not everyone gets to go 3-2 against top 5 teams. So it’s not really fair.
What is more impressive:
Illinois going 0-2 vs top 4 teams and 9-1 against others
Or
Ole Miss going 2-0 vs top 15 teams but 7-3 against everyone else.
If Illinois played Ole Miss’s schedule you could make the argument they’d go 9-3
If ole Miss played Illinois’s schedule, you could make the argument they’d go 9-3.
So my solution is to send 10-2 Miami.
Miami is 10-2 Vs the types of teams ole miss was 7-3 against. And is 10-2 against the teams Illinois was 9-1 against.
Miami lost by 5 to a team that took Georgia to overtime x5
Miami lost by 4 to a team that’s probably going to be about 25 tonight.
Miami beat a Florida team that ole miss lost to.
Miami beat a Louisville team that just embarrassed a Kentucky team that ole miss lost to.
That doesn’t answer the Miami vs Alabama question. I don’t understand how anyone could rank ole Miss above Miami.
Ole Miss lost to 7-5 Florida, 4-8 Kentucky, 8-4 LSU
Alabama lost to 6-6 Vanderbilt and 6-6 Oklahoma
You can’t tell me those teams would definitely go 10-2 vs Miami schedule
Which is why I have South Carolina higher than both of them too.
The quality wins argument only works with me if you don’t have bad losses
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yep agreed. to me it's essentially a banded losses. not fair to punish a team simply because you don't know how they would've done when you have the result of how a team did. if they're the same number of losses or equal numbers of bad losses (or the same "type of losses" as in both to top 10 teams or something), the rest of the SOS gets more weight. Nice wins look great to inflate you against teams with equal losses but when you only play a very finite number of games, having an extra loss (especially if they're bad) is huge and those losses by ole miss and Bama are the definition of bad losses. I have S Car just below both Bama and Ole Miss because H2H when same # of losses is my first separation point even though the result may be different now with healthy Sellers and their season improvement. In reality, none of the 3 of them should get in to me and you have enough other 2 loss teams to be fine with getting them in.
B10: Oregon, PSU, Indiana, OSU all are locks and will have 2 or fewer losses
At large: ND lock
SMU locked in ACC (their losses will be to top 20 teams even if they lose ACC title). Clemson wins and they're in as conference winner or if not, Miami in at 2 losses
B12: AZ State or IA State will have 2 losses as conf champ and are locked. B12 only gets one team
Boise or UNLV will be other conference champ
That leaves 3 bids left for the SEC. TX is locked. GA is now locked as you aren't going to drop them out due to loss in CC game given all losses are "good" losses and they beat TX already. Tenn locked with only 1 bad loss and 2 losses overall.
To me the bracket is done aside from which of the B12, MWC, and ACC teams get in. The SEC is set. You can't tell me definitively any of Bama, Ole Miss, or SCar are better than Miami and they have 3 losses with them being the H2Hs (S car to both) or being worse (Vandy, OK for Bama; Kentucky and FL for Ole Miss which FL got stomped by Miami).
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What the heck did I do wrong? Weird.
1) Minnesota
2) Wyoming
3) Oregon
4) Texas
5) Boise State
1) Minnesota
2) Wyoming
3) Oregon
4) Texas
5) Boise State
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Interesting.
Mine.
1-Oregon
2-Texas
3-Ohio State
4-Georgia
5-Penn State
6-SMU
7-Notre Dame
8-Indiana
9-Boise State
10-Alabama
11-Tennessee
12-South Carolina
13-Miami
14-Ole Miss
15-Clemson
Instant Reaction: I would flip Alabama & Tennessee purely based on H2H (I think it matters here when they're next to each other). I probably would flip Ohio State & Georgia as well; a home loss to that Michigan team weighs more to me than losing at Bama & Ole Miss
Mine.
1-Oregon
2-Texas
3-Ohio State
4-Georgia
5-Penn State
6-SMU
7-Notre Dame
8-Indiana
9-Boise State
10-Alabama
11-Tennessee
12-South Carolina
13-Miami
14-Ole Miss
15-Clemson
Instant Reaction: I would flip Alabama & Tennessee purely based on H2H (I think it matters here when they're next to each other). I probably would flip Ohio State & Georgia as well; a home loss to that Michigan team weighs more to me than losing at Bama & Ole Miss