They needed a national search firm to make this hire?

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As I mentioned elsewhere, you'll have a very difficult time convincing me this guy needed anything more than Maturi picking up the tab on a beer and hoagie from Davanni's to take this job. But instead we had the fortune of blowing through $600k for a search firm to help find this cat. Absolutely ludicrous.
 

clearly, they were turned down by a number of potentials... jerry kill feels like a scrape from the bottom of the barrel.
 

I'll be shocked if anymore details than necessary are announced

The problem here isn't coach Kill. He's won everywhere he's been and that's a good start for where Brewster left Us. It's that it took a nationwide search to hire someone 200 miles from here. If somebody else other than Maturi is leading the search, does this happen? They won't announce anymore info than necessary. If it's apparent that they saved money on this, they better be prepared to hire a topnotch staff.
 

Anyone but Maturi doesn't need a search firm. Your job as an AD is to keep an updated list of 3-4 football and bball coaches you would go after if your coach left you in teh middle of the night.
 


they hired a search firm so that we can be told confidentially by a dozen or so coaches that they aren't interested.
 

We needed a search firm to gauge interest for prospective coaches. If they don't view this as a good job there isn't much we can do.
 

Any AD worth his salt does that on his own constantly throughout the year.
 

Or they have much more important things to do.
 



Replacement Gopher said:
Your job as an AD is to keep an updated list of 3-4 football and bball coaches you would go after if your coach left you in teh middle of the night.
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The problem is Maturi's top 3 - 4 coaches would not come here. This is not a step up for any established coach and in fact is likely seen as a coach killing job. No coach with a successful reputation at a good solid school wants to come here and risk ruining his winning reputation and future job prospects. I guarantee you that Maturi was told NO a lot during this search. Do you think that Maturi really wants to be known as the guy who ruined gopher fb? Give me a break. The HC for the MN Gophers is not seen as a glamorous job and the hire of Kill (whom I like) proves that.
 

What does the AD have to do that is more important than make sure their football program is successful?
 

GO4INLALALAND said:
The problem is Maturi's top 3 - 4 coaches would not come here. This is not a step up for any established coach and in fact is likely seen as a coach killing job. No coach with a successful reputation at a good solid school wants to come here and risk ruining his winning reputation and future job prospects. I guarantee you that Maturi was told NO a lot during this search. Do you think that Maturi really wants to be known as the guy who ruined gopher fb? Give me a break. The HC for the MN Gophers is not seen as a glamorous job and the hire of Kill (whom I like) proves that.
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No, the problem is that he has no idea who he wants for a football coach. He said so himself when he hired Brewster that he had never heard of him before two weeks before he hired him.
 

Replacement Gopher said:
No, the problem is that he has no idea who he wants for a football coach. He said so himself when he hired Brewster that he had never heard of him before two weeks before he hired him.
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Again, with the Brewster hire, Maturi was told no by established coaches including Patterson at TCU. We offered Patterson at TCU $2 million and he still did not want to come here. What does that tell you about how coaches perceive the U? They see it as a wasteland and the sad fact is we have to find a diamond in the rough. Maturi thought with Brewster's recruiting record he could bring in the talent to build this program. The problem was he could not coach. Now Maturi brought in a real coach (after being told No by numerous other HC, IMO of course) and hopefully he can turn the program around.
 



Do you think that Maturi really wants to be known as the guy who ruined gopher fb?
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Gopher football was ruined years ago. You can't hang that on Joel. He did get us a nifty new stadium. But I for one am very disappointed in the Kill hire. We have enough big spenders in this town to get someone with a higher profile that could have excited the fan base.

J.Kill is just not that exciting.
 

GO4INLALALAND said:
Again, with the Brewster hire, Maturi was told no by established coaches including Patterson at TCU. We offered Patterson at TCU $2 million and he still did not want to come here. What does that tell you about how coaches perceive the U? They see it as a wasteland and the sad fact is we have to find a diamond in the rough. Maturi thought with Brewster's recruiting record he could bring in the talent to build this program. The problem was he could not coach. Now Maturi brought in a real coach (after being told No by numerous other HC, IMO of course) and hopefully he can turn the program around.
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And he was told yes by Pelini, Charlie Strong, Lane Kiffen, and Leslie Frazier.
 

sec105 said:
Gopher football was ruined years ago. You can't hang that on Joel. He did get us a nifty new stadium. But I for one am very disappointed in the Kill hire. We have enough big spenders in this town to get someone with a higher profile that could have excited the fan base.

J.Kill is just not that exciting.
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Petersen, Patterson, Hoke, Golden, etc. these guys do not want to come here because MN fb is a wasteland right now. I wanted them to, but these guys want to go to a real school with a real program that they believe they can improve. Not one that has been in the crapper for 50 years.
 

Replacement Gopher said:
And he was told yes by Pelini, Charlie Strong, Lane Kiffen, and Leslie Frazier.
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Pelini would have been a better choice obviously, but I am not sold on Kiffen (plus he would have left when the SC job opened up) nor Frazier (he is an NFL coach and he did say no this time around). As far as Strong, he would have likely been better than Brewster.

Also, I am not saying that he did not screw up with the Brewster hire, but I think because of the Brewster hire this hire was much more difficult. The opportunities that were available when Brewster was hired I do not believe were there this time because the program is in horrible shape.
 

This is going to be another 4 years of futility. I wish him the best, but he is no better than retaining Horton. In order to fill the stadium he will need to go 8-3 next year beating Wisconsin and Iowa. Anything short of that is more of the same. I will hold off on renewing till I watch the press conference, get a look at the staff he assembles. I have been a ticket holder since the late 70's but I understand with all the candidates that have come up on the board, that he was the only one interested. :(
 

I find it highly unlikely that we could not find a winning HD with a higher profile who'd take 2-2.5 mill/yr to coach this team-to suggest otherwise is silly and enables the continued incompetence of our AD. This program is now officially dead. Those on this board -myself included- need to find another hobby. Gopher football is a complete and total ship of fools.
 


$2 - 2.5 million is below market value for a highly prized HC. Also, I do not think that the U was going to throw that money at every possible nominee, i.e. Golden, Hoke, Sumlin, and they shouldn't as they have not shown they are worth that kind of money. As far as Petersen and Patterson, these guys certainly would turn down that kind of money because they are looking in the $3+ million dollar range for their next job.
 

Don't give me none of this "Nobody was interested in the job." Leach should have been the choice here and he would have a lot of buzz going on right now. Right now the fanbase is ready to torch the new stadium, what does THAT tell you? You might as well have just given the job to Horton, who ALSO gladly would have taken the job.

The Gophers will most likely be hiring a new coach in another 4 years and we get to do this again. I just hope to high Heaven that Maturi isn't around to screw it up again and we do not use this stupid search committee who also gave us Brewster. How stupid is it that we use the same search committee that gave us Tim Brewster the last time???

If there is just one small consolation, it is that I find that the majority's opinion on this board is usually wrong, just like when the majority thought Brewster would be a great coach or made their preseason picks that the Gophers would be 7-5 or 8-3. Maybe, just maybe Kill turns out pretty good. We have to support him and hope that he is a lot better than we give him credit for because at this point, that's all we can do.
 

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