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he Dinkytown Athletes is a collective established by two entrepreneurial individuals, ostensibly to represent Minnesota. But do they truly? Can we say with confidence that they provide the best possible arrangements for incoming athletes? I’m not sure. Are any of us? Are the contracts being honored as promised, or do hidden loopholes leave athletes dissatisfied? Again, I can’t say. Can any of us?

Here’s a thought: perhaps it’s time for a second or even a third NIL organization. Maybe the University could solicit bids for managing this work. As it stands, I can’t tell if the current system is a makeshift, patchwork solution held together by bailing wire and straw, or a well-developed, efficient one.

And one more question: are prominent members of GH serving on the board of Dinkytown Athletes?
 

I have to believe Twin Cities NIL Club has at least something to do with the Gophers.
 

ShushPush said:
he Dinkytown Athletes is a collective established by two entrepreneurial individuals, ostensibly to represent Minnesota. But do they truly? Can we say with confidence that they provide the best possible arrangements for incoming athletes? I’m not sure. Are any of us? Are the contracts being honored as promised, or do hidden loopholes leave athletes dissatisfied? Again, I can’t say. Can any of us?

Here’s a thought: perhaps it’s time for a second or even a third NIL organization. Maybe the University could solicit bids for managing this work. As it stands, I can’t tell if the current system is a makeshift, patchwork solution held together by bailing wire and straw, or a well-developed, efficient one.

And one more question: are prominent members of GH serving on the board of Dinkytown Athletes?
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Are you questioning the character of the people involved with DTA, their ability to obtain funds, or both?
 
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ShushPush said:
he Dinkytown Athletes is a collective established by two entrepreneurial individuals, ostensibly to represent Minnesota. But do they truly? Can we say with confidence that they provide the best possible arrangements for incoming athletes? I’m not sure. Are any of us? Are the contracts being honored as promised, or do hidden loopholes leave athletes dissatisfied? Again, I can’t say. Can any of us?

Here’s a thought: perhaps it’s time for a second or even a third NIL organization. Maybe the University could solicit bids for managing this work. As it stands, I can’t tell if the current system is a makeshift, patchwork solution held together by bailing wire and straw, or a well-developed, efficient one.

And one more question: are prominent members of GH serving on the board of Dinkytown Athletes?
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ShushPush said:
he Dinkytown Athletes is a collective established by two entrepreneurial individuals, ostensibly to represent Minnesota. But do they truly? Can we say with confidence that they provide the best possible arrangements for incoming athletes? I’m not sure. Are any of us? Are the contracts being honored as promised, or do hidden loopholes leave athletes dissatisfied? Again, I can’t say. Can any of us?

Here’s a thought: perhaps it’s time for a second or even a third NIL organization. Maybe the University could solicit bids for managing this work. As it stands, I can’t tell if the current system is a makeshift, patchwork solution held together by bailing wire and straw, or a well-developed, efficient one.

And one more question: are prominent members of GH serving on the board of Dinkytown Athletes?
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Let us know when we can contribute to the ShushPush NIL Collective and which Gopherholers you will put on the board.
 


GreasyGopher said:
Are you questioning the character of the people involved with DTA, their ability to obtain funds, or both?
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I am questioning whether Minnesota is getting the best possible use of our dollars? It isn't a matter of character, it is a matter of the quality of the right to represent the U.
 



studentgopher94 said:
Why does this post and the post in the transfer portal thread make it seem like you have a personal bone to pick here.....
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What an odd conclusion. One might ask if this collective is performing its mission for the U or some other group. If you look up their ownership, you might find your own interpretation to the question.
 

PMWinSTP said:
Deep thoughts...is this all rhetorical?
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Nobody has yet decided to bring a lawsuit against the U or Dinkytown Athletes for having a monopoly business. If you look at the college landscape, all the collectives for DI sports have a single organization representing these funding organizations. There are three venture capital firms that own the larger parental organization. I have yet to hear a single person question this arrangement that affects all of college sports.
 

ShushPush said:
I am questioning whether Minnesota is getting the best possible use of our dollars? It isn't a matter of character, it is a matter of the quality of the right to represent the U.
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The University doesn’t have any official involvement in DTA but everything I’ve seen indicates DTA has significantly closed the NIL gap.
 




This isn’t feeding our future or child care assistance. I imagine a player is getting my 10$.
 

GreasyGopher said:
The University doesn’t have any official involvement in DTA but everything I’ve seen indicates DTA has significantly closed the NIL gap.
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They are the official and only NIL collective for the team. The university put out a press release on this when they signed the agreement.
 


ShushPush said:
They are the official and only NIL collective for the team. The university put out a press release on this when they signed the agreement.
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Note that players can still sign their own spokesperson deals with companies outside of DTA. Like Caitlin Clark with State Farm.
 

TNGophfan said:
Note that players can still sign their own spokesperson deals with companies outside of DTA. Like Caitlin Clark with State Farm.
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Just another W-2 and outside the scope of any cap. There is no cap. Therefore, the U establishing a deal with just The Dinkytown Athletes as an exclusive deal is insane.
 

ShushPush said:
Just another W-2 and outside the scope of any cap. There is no cap. Therefore, the U establishing a deal with just The Dinkytown Athletes as an exclusive deal is insane.
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You’re going to have to explain your issue because I am not tracking the concern.

However, I happen to be neighbors with a person that is involved in the NIL for one of the state schools where I live and they mentioned that NIL as we know it is going away due to Revenue Sharing and the House settlement In their case, they will have until a certain date to transfer all the money they raised back to the sport earmarked on the donation at the discretion of that coach. Any money left over will go to the university’s general fund. It’s unknown if that collective will survive or if the athletic department will just take over.
 
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ShushPush said:
Just another W-2 and outside the scope of any cap. There is no cap. Therefore, the U establishing a deal with just The Dinkytown Athletes as an exclusive deal is insane.
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I'm not an expert on this, but I think the U wants just 1 clearing house for NIL money to keep things simpler. My understanding is the clearing house (DTA in this case), only collects the money and the U tells it how much to distribute to each individual player. DTA has no say in how much goes where. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).
So, I also don't understand your concern or angst about this. Please explain. Something untoward going on behind scenes? Money being stolen or pocketed?
 
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TNGophfan said:
I'm not an expert on this, but I think the U wants just 1 clearing house for NIL money to keep things simpler. My understanding is the clearing house (DTA in this case), only collects the money and the U tells it how much to distribute to each individual player. DTA has no say in how much goes were. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).
So, I also don't understand your concern or angst about this. Please explain. Something untoward going on behind scenes? Money being stolen or pocketed?
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Angst? A question doesn't imply angst.
 

ShushPush said:
I am questioning whether Minnesota is getting the best possible use of our dollars? It isn't a matter of character, it is a matter of the quality of the right to represent the U.
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I'm not trying to dismiss your questions, but you're free to start your own NIL organization. It's not "our" dollars, it the "dollars" of the people donating or buying things from DTA.
 

TNGophfan said:
I'm not an expert on this, but I think the U wants just 1 clearing house for NIL money to keep things simpler. My understanding is the clearing house (DTA in this case), only collects the money and the U tells it how much to distribute to each individual player. DTA has no say in how much goes where. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).
So, I also don't understand your concern or angst about this. Please explain. Something untoward going on behind scenes? Money being stolen or pocketed?
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I was under the impression the collective has final say on the money. They can receive input from the athletic department and/or coaches, but ultimately the collective decides who gets what.
 

SomeGopherFan said:
I was under the impression the collective has final say on the money. They can receive input from the athletic department and/or coaches, but ultimately the collective decides who gets what.
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Our understandings are different, and I don't know which of us is right. Can someone who really knows comment?
 


So I assume a collective is a nonprofit in which the employees are provided some sort of salary... If that's the case, it would behoove the university to only have one to minimize overhead and maximize compensation for athletes, right? Or does every single dollar donated end up in the pockets of the players, no matter what?

This comment provided by a person whose only exposure to economics was an AP class I took in high school taught by my basketball coach ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
 

IMO, the only way MN basketball gets and sustains a large steady income stream is to convert a lot of MN bb supporters to pledge a % of their life insurance to the “MN Gopher Basketball Trust” which would manage the money in interest-bearing accts for distribution. Large chunks of money gained through an aging fan base to consistently fund the program. It may sound distasteful but a lot of private school do this as a major income stream. That invested money grows. Maybe there are rules prohibiting this. I’m not sure. Someone please comment on the rules of public institutions.
 

SplitDecision said:
IMO, the only way MN basketball gets and sustains a large steady income stream is to convert a lot of MN bb supporters to pledge a % of their life insurance to the “MN Gopher Basketball Trust” which would manage the money in interest-bearing accts for distribution. Large chunks of money gained through an aging fan base to consistently fund the program. It may sound distasteful but a lot of private school do this as a major income stream. That invested money grows. Maybe there are rules prohibiting this. I’m not sure. Someone please comment on the rules of public institutions.
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Not sure about the "trust", but you could certainly leave to DTA. I don't think the trust, as maybe implied, can be managed by the University itself.
 
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ShushPush said:
he Dinkytown Athletes is a collective established by two entrepreneurial individuals, ostensibly to represent Minnesota. But do they truly? Can we say with confidence that they provide the best possible arrangements for incoming athletes? I’m not sure. Are any of us? Are the contracts being honored as promised, or do hidden loopholes leave athletes dissatisfied? Again, I can’t say. Can any of us?

Here’s a thought: perhaps it’s time for a second or even a third NIL organization. Maybe the University could solicit bids for managing this work. As it stands, I can’t tell if the current system is a makeshift, patchwork solution held together by bailing wire and straw, or a well-developed, efficient one.

And one more question: are prominent members of GH serving on the board of Dinkytown Athletes?
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Are you serious? Just your assumptions to maligned an organization which is endorsed by coaches and athletes? Do your research before you write.
 


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