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How many lawsuits tossed?
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You can't make it up.
Your brain is malfunctioning again. So you disagree with me? Violence was the proper response? What would be the recourse to election fraud, not the courts? You are a fool, but whats worse is that you have tremendous unearned arrogance. At least CNC has an advanced degree.
 

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There were attempts to remove him, he was impeached. There was investigation into his ties with Russia, because he had ties with Russia. There were surely some in permanent positions who didn't like him, as there are for Biden.

There was no massive "Deep State Conspiracy" to remove him via illegal means. You're barely saner than Beeg.
There clearly was. Your downplaying cant wipe it clean. Could have just treated him fairly and he probably would have lost. But that was a chance we couldnt take.
 

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How many lawsuits tossed?
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You can't make it up.
Very few were tossed on lack of evidence. Most were tossed on "lack of standing" and "too late" or no remedy rulings. Wisconsin for example found that the ruling that allowed people to avoid proof of identity by using Covid as "indefinitely confined" was improperly used by 50k to 100k people. But there was no remedy, the cheating had already occurred and there was no way to determine who was legal and who was not. The legal cases are filled with this stuff- despite what you have been falsely told. There were some weak ones also.
 

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Bat. Shit. Crazy.
I wish that were true. In a country with an honest media- it would be true. The media and these "fact checkers" are bought and paid for. In the USSR the newspaper was Pravda. Truth. It was anything but. A good name, like "fact checker" means nothing.
 

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Undermining confidence in our very fragile election system with absolutely ZERO evidence
And where did this undermining of confidence in our election system start? Seems the lack of confidence in our fragile election system really took off in 2016 when the leftists couldnt handle losing.

We heard calls of illegitimate POTUS from day one after the 2016 election and leftists spent the next 4 years trying to remove a sitting President. We even have one of the lefties favorites, Ana Navarro, recently calling the previous President illegitimate.

The leftists as they always do easily forget their contribution to the undermining of confidence in our elections. Unfortunately their media partners refuse to remind them of the part they play.
 



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Why was Trump's request for National Guard turned down?
I've been asking this question on GH since January 7th. No one wanted to discuss it then and no one wants to discuss it now. The J6 committee doesn't seem to care either.
 

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1/6 was - and continues to be - a huge threat to this country.
I keep thinking you are a pretty rational guy in your views - then you say things like this. 1/6 was a terrible riot. 1/6 was an embarrasement to our Country. 1/6 was not, nor does it continue to be, a "huge threat to our Country". This idea that our democracy almost fell that day is CRINGY worth.
 

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And where did this undermining of confidence in our election system start? Seems the lack of confidence in our fragile election system really took off in 2016 when the leftists couldnt handle losing.

We heard calls of illegitimate POTUS from day one after the 2016 election and leftists spent the next 4 years trying to remove a sitting President. We even have one of the lefties favorites, Ana Navarro, recently calling the previous President illegitimate.

The leftists as they always do easily forget their contribution to the undermining of confidence in our elections. Unfortunately their media partners refuse to remind them of the part they play.
Jake concerned about undermining election system confidence...unreal. Yesterday, his man Joe, stipulated that the Rs were going to steal coming elections and democracy itself if they are unable to pass the voters rights legislation. Jim Crow!

Doublespeak.

Inflation
The national debt
The Covid response
Increasing censorship
Agency corruption
The China threat
Flagging economy-sagging black employment
Push to socialism
Election irregularities in 2020 (I'm being kind here)
Racial division
The destruction of our cities- crime wave
Deep political divide

All of these are far, far greater threats to our Democracy than the one day events of J6.

Yet the Democrats are far more concerned with scoring 2022 midterm points as they perceive the coming slaughter unless they can pull a rabbit out of the hat prior to November. It's all political theater.
 
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I keep thinking you are a pretty rational guy in your views - then you say things like this. 1/6 was a terrible riot. 1/6 was an embarrasement to our Country. 1/6 was not, nor does it continue to be, a "huge threat to our Country". This idea that our democracy almost fell that day is CRINGY worth.
I didn't say it almost fell that day. Although while it was happening, I was wide-eyed not knowing what was going to happen. The problem is that it isn't over. The threat and effort continues.
 

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Jake concerned about undermining election system confidence...unreal. Yesterday, his man Joe, stipulated that the Rs were going to steal coming elections and democracy itself if they are unable to pass the voters rights legislation. Jim Crow!

Doublespeak.
What is it that you are afraid of, @ShillGA1? More people voting? Why would that be?
 

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And where did this undermining of confidence in our election system start? Seems the lack of confidence in our fragile election system really took off in 2016 when the leftists couldnt handle losing.

We heard calls of illegitimate POTUS from day one after the 2016 election and leftists spent the next 4 years trying to remove a sitting President. We even have one of the lefties favorites, Ana Navarro, recently calling the previous President illegitimate.

The leftists as they always do easily forget their contribution to the undermining of confidence in our elections. Unfortunately their media partners refuse to remind them of the part they play.

Leftists produced a whole movie about potential election fraud called Kill Chain (HBO) a couple years ago. I never hear about that one anymore.
 




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Have any of the people arrested pointed to Ray as the reason they entered the Capitol? Surely if he were organizing and directing, someone would at least know his name.
And does the day delay between his statement, and the breech of the Capitol matter? That's quite the power of suggestion.
 

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What is it that you are afraid of, @ShillGA1? More people voting? Why would that be?
Cheating. Just like last election. Massive cheating. Vote harvesting. Paying people to use their votes. Voting on behalf of stupid people. Illegals voting. Adjudicating and adjusting mail in votes. No chain of custody or ID in a lot of cases. All the stuff that Democrats do to steal elections- just on steroids.
 

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Have any of the people arrested pointed to Ray as the reason they entered the Capitol? Surely if he were organizing and directing, someone would at least know his name.
And does the day delay between his statement, and the breech of the Capitol matter? That's quite the power of suggestion.
If you were concerned you would ask the right questions. How many "Rays" were there? Did any of the Rays let protestors in, actually lead them in, take down barriers for them (yes- there is video of it). Did any of the Rays incite with violence of their own or toss smoke bombs into the crowd? Why was the National Guard, as requested by Trump, not allowed by Pelosi? You don't want to know.
 

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Here's something that would be a lot bigger than J6- a President compromised to the Chinese (and Russia and Ukraine)...

 

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If you were concerned you would ask the right questions. How many "Rays" were there? Did any of the Rays let protestors in, actually lead them in, take down barriers for them (yes- there is video of it). Did any of the Rays incite with violence of their own or toss smoke bombs into the crowd? Why was the National Guard, as requested by Trump, not allowed by Pelosi? You don't want to know.
This Pelosi National Guard thing just keeps getting new air every day.

Ask yourself this question--The President was watching this all on TV, like the rest of us? Why did he take so long to address the situation? It seems many in his orbit were asking him to.

Blaming Pelosi for unpreparedness (she's not actually in charge of that), is another attempt to shift blame--As if having failing to have a better lock on the door is a worse behavior than breaking in.
 

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J6 a day that will live in infamy.

Anyone who attended the J6 protest is a domestic terrorist.

J6 the day democracy almost fell.

Ray Epps encourages going into the Capitol and the J6 Committee says nah, hes cool bruh.
 

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This Pelosi National Guard thing just keeps getting new air every day.

Ask yourself this question--The President was watching this all on TV, like the rest of us? Why did he take so long to address the situation? It seems many in his orbit were asking him to.

Blaming Pelosi for unpreparedness (she's not actually in charge of that), is another attempt to shift blame--As if having failing to have a better lock on the door is a worse behavior than breaking in.
It took him 20 minutes. Biden can decide whether he needs to urinate in 20 minutes.

They didn't fail to have a lock, in some videos they were opening doors for them and leading them along roped off lines.

Pelosi was not unprepared. She was heavily prepared. She didn't want the National Guard there. It couldn't get out of control if they were. She wanted disturbance. I believe that the feds wanted the same thing. Controlled chaos was the look they were shooting for. They knew that nothing was in danger from Trumpsters. Violence is not how they roll- there was no history of that.

No national guard, Feds to incite, mix in a little antifa to stir up the craziest of the right wingers (of course that element exists) and they got the narrative they wanted.

I don't care about Ray Epps or know who he is. The FBI did not deny that he was an agent under oath. They didn't deny that there were Feds involved. They did this before in Michigan. I know how corrupt the Feds are and I know how corrupt Pelosi Schiff and company are. It was theater.
 

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It took him 20 minutes. Biden can decide whether he needs to urinate in 20 minutes.

They didn't fail to have a lock, in some videos they were opening doors for them and leading them along roped off lines.

Pelosi was not unprepared. She was heavily prepared. She didn't want the National Guard there. It couldn't get out of control if they were. She wanted disturbance. I believe that the feds wanted the same thing. Controlled chaos was the look they were shooting for. They knew that nothing was in danger from Trumpsters. Violence is not how they roll- there was no history of that.

No national guard, Feds to incite, mix in a little antifa to stir up the craziest of the right wingers (of course that element exists) and they got the narrative they wanted.

I don't care about Ray Epps or know who he is. The FBI did not deny that he was an agent under oath. They didn't deny that there were Feds involved. They did this before in Michigan. I know how corrupt the Feds are and I know how corrupt Pelosi Schiff and company are. It was theater.
They made T-shirts!
I'm not going to change your mind, but you are really on the edge here. There is a simpler explanation, if you would like it. A large crowd assembled and got out of control. The crowd would be accurately described as pro Trump. The rest is a big case of "it couldn't be us, we are the good guys".
 

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Cheating. Just like last election. Massive cheating. Vote harvesting. Paying people to use their votes. Voting on behalf of stupid people. Illegals voting. Adjudicating and adjusting mail in votes. No chain of custody or ID in a lot of cases. All the stuff that Democrats do to steal elections- just on steroids.
Oh, that stuff. Which you and all your other dingbat bobos have been spewing since your little cult hero lost, with absolutely zero proof whatsoever. All court cases have failed miserably. Every assertion has been proven false. The amount of actual fraud is miniscule and tended to favor Rs.

You flail away, day after day with the same utter and complete bullshit. The amount of time you spend on here saying the same tired, false things every day is mind blowing. You would think you would have better things to do than to come here every day and repeating the same garbage every day. Go volunteer somewhere, @bga1. Do some good.

One thing is for sure, though, your love of this country is topped dramatically by your partisanship. The founding fathers warned and were very, very concerned about you. So am I.
 

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This Pelosi National Guard thing just keeps getting new air every day.

Ask yourself this question--The President was watching this all on TV, like the rest of us? Why did he take so long to address the situation? It seems many in his orbit were asking him to.

Blaming Pelosi for unpreparedness (she's not actually in charge of that), is another attempt to shift blame--As if having failing to have a better lock on the door is a worse behavior than breaking in.
These probably don't show up on Google. They engineer what rises to the top and what goes to the bottom. They get that most people are lazy.



On the evening of January 5the night before a white supremacist mob stormed Capitol Hill in a siege that would leave five deadthe acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, was at the White House with his chief of staff, Kash Patel. They were meeting with President Trump on an Iran issue, Miller told me. But then the conversation switched gears. The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. Were like, Were going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests, Miller responded. And [Trump] goes, Youre going to need 10,000 people. No, Im not talking bullshit. He said that. And were like, Maybe. But you know, someones going to have to ask for it. At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do. He said, Youre going to need 10,000. Thats what he said. Swear to God.

 

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Oh, that stuff. Which you and all your other dingbat bobos have been spewing since your little cult hero lost, with absolutely zero proof whatsoever. All court cases have failed miserably. Every assertion has been proven false. The amount of actual fraud is miniscule and tended to favor Rs.

You flail away, day after day with the same utter and complete bullshit. The amount of time you spend on here saying the same tired, false things every day is mind blowing. You would think you would have better things to do than to come here every day and repeating the same garbage every day. Go volunteer somewhere, @bga1. Do some good.

One thing is for sure, though, your love of this country is topped dramatically by your partisanship. The founding fathers warned and were very, very concerned about you. So am I.
I have done more volunteering in my lifetime that you have ever thought about. We send meals all over the world, free women from sex trafficking, support and serve Minneapolis food ministries. I have dedicated time and money to doing the things that you claim government will accomplish and always fails at. I've served on school councils, church boards, charitable boards, you name it.

I know you don't like what I have to say. Put me on ignore. It would do you some good. You have an anger management problem and I don't think you can handle debate mentally or emotionally.
 

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They made T-shirts!
I'm not going to change your mind, but you are really on the edge here. There is a simpler explanation, if you would like it. A large crowd assembled and got out of control. The crowd would be accurately described as pro Trump. The rest is a big case of "it couldn't be us, we are the good guys".
That is the simple minded explanation. It's not likely the truth though. If you want to settle for the simple, then you be you. It's the apathy that is losing this country. You are smart enough to do better.

The simple explanation for Trump Russian collusion since everyone said it happened would have been to believe it. But it wasn't true.

The simple explanation is that Epstein committed suicide. I don't think so.

The simple explanation when the news reported that Cohen went to Prague was that he DID go to Prague. But he really didn't.

The simple explanation on Kavanaugh with all of those accusers was that he did it, but it was a scam as we found out.

The simple explanation on Robert Mueller was that he was a brilliant guy who would oversee a fair investigation of Trump. Then we found out at the end that he had practically lost his mind and was a shadow of his former self while Democrat attorneys ran it.

The simple explanation was to believe that Adam Schiff had the smoking gun evidence he said he did- but he lied.

The simple explanation would have been to believe the media when they told you that the Hunter Biden story was just Russian disinformation. And as I recall, you believed it. But it was real.

The simplest explanation on Covid was that it just happened to come from the wet markets- just like the government told you. But now we know that they knew it was almost surely engineered.

There is so much of this that you got suckered on for so many years, yeah, I know you didn't fall for all of it. But you do understand how bad the media has been and how corrupt the agencies and this administration has been. I know you know that.
 
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If I tell you to do something, will you listen?
If I was telling a bunch of people that we must go into the capitol, my behind is behind bars. Yours would be, too. Anyone regular person would be.

Ray Epps got a waver for some reason.
 

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Ask yourself this question--The President was watching this all on TV, like the rest of us? Why did he take so long to address the situation? It seems many in his orbit were asking him to.
Because he was thrilled with what was happening and rooting it on. Oh wait, that destroys Beeg's fake narrative.
 

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If I was telling a bunch of people that we must go into the capitol, my behind is behind bars. Yours would be, too. Anyone regular person would be.

Ray Epps got a waver for some reason.
And he was so unimportant that the J6 committee called on him to give his story.....
 

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If I was telling a bunch of people that we must go into the capitol, my behind is behind bars. Yours would be, too. Anyone regular person would be.
This isn't actually true. Especially, when at the time he said it, nobody did it.
 

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I know you don't like what I have to say. Put me on ignore. It would do you some good. You have an anger management problem and I don't think you can handle debate mentally or emotionally.
You don't debate. You preach. Debate involves listening and seeing it from the other side.

All you do is talk.

And like most who have no facts on their side, you simply say the same thing over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over.

Because that's all you've got. Then you claim victory when others tune you out.

And no, I'm not going away. I'm going to continue to call you out on the bullshit that you spew here. Because I actually do care about this country. Not just my side. You think you know everything. I know for a fact I don't. That's one big difference between us.
 




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