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per Joe:

Claeys has remained in the coaching booth in the past, but he said he’ll move to the sideline if Kill can’t make it back for the team’s next game, Oct. 19 at Northwestern.

“I think that would be important,” Claeys said. “Nobody knows how long [Kill’s leave is] going to take. The good thing is, he’s going to leave it up to the doctors.

“He’s tried this [treatment] before, and he [ended it] early because he felt better, so we’ll just have to see. I know I would be more than happy if he showed up at 10 a.m. [an hour before the Northwestern kickoff]. I’d gladly say, ‘Here’s your headset, get after it.’ ”

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/227469291.html

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BleedGopher said:
per Joe:

Claeys has remained in the coaching booth in the past, but he said he’ll move to the sideline if Kill can’t make it back for the team’s next game, Oct. 19 at Northwestern.

“I think that would be important,” Claeys said. “Nobody knows how long [Kill’s leave is] going to take. The good thing is, he’s going to leave it up to the doctors.

“He’s tried this [treatment] before, and he [ended it] early because he felt better, so we’ll just have to see. I know I would be more than happy if he showed up at 10 a.m. [an hour before the Northwestern kickoff]. I’d gladly say, ‘Here’s your headset, get after it.’ ”

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/227469291.html

Go Gophers!!
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And, there is the smoking gun. If Jerry Kill failed to take his meds and he told the U that he had epilepsy at some point, this is grounds for termination if he went off his working meds because he felt better. His failure to maintain, according another coach.

Just saying this is something you say if you want to dethrone the monarch. Seriously, did he say this.
 

I think he just meant that he ended his leave earlier than anticipated/recommended, not that he stopped taking his meds.

I can't speak for Kill, but I know a bit about epilepsy, and you do not stop taking your meds. Ever. They may be changed because there is a change in the condition, but once you have the condition under control, you stick to the status quo. I am not a medical professional, so there could be exceptions, but that is what I have always seen in the treatment of epilepsy.

I am not going to knock a coach (or player) who feels they are ready to go, and make an effort to do so. Hindsight is 20/20. Claeys did not take a knock at Kill at all, he just explained what happened during his last leave.
 

hyaluronic said:
I think he just meant that he ended his leave earlier than anticipated/recommended, not that he stopped taking his meds.

I can't speak for Kill, but I know a bit about epilepsy, and you do not stop taking your meds. Ever. They may be changed because there is a change in the condition, but once you have the condition under control, you stick to the status quo. I am not a medical professional, so there could be exceptions, but that is what I have always seen in the treatment of epilepsy.

I am not going to knock a coach (or player) who feels they are ready to go, and make an effort to do so. Hindsight is 20/20. Claeys did not take a knock at Kill at all, he just explained what happened during his last leave.
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Now that is spin. The quote says something completely different than what you are saying should have happened. Claeys didn't misspeak. He said it. The quote suggests he stopped taking his meds against protocol. If true, Jerry Kill needs to be fired because his doctors all have briefed him on staying on the medication. Biggest part of any medication briefing is the duration of the course of treatment. This is conduct worthy of a discussion of immediate dismissal. This isn't a trifle of information, this is critical information. Why? This is a major breach of trust in the compact to accommodate his epilepsy and to ignore it during game days and the like. If this was an executive, the board would have his butt on the street. No doubt about it. This amounts to personal sabotage of his health. This can't be dismissed as an oops, I forgot excuse. This is an admission that he really wanted to miss time on the sideline. This pisses me off.
 



Dean S said:
Now that is spin. The quote says something completely different than what you are saying should have happened. Claeys didn't misspeak. He said it. The quote suggests he stopped taking his meds against protocol. If true, Jerry Kill needs to be fired because his doctors all have briefed him on staying on the medication. Biggest part of any medication briefing is the duration of the course of treatment. This is conduct worthy of a discussion of immediate dismissal. This isn't a trifle of information, this is critical information. Why? This is a major breach of trust in the compact to accommodate his epilepsy and to ignore it during game days and the like. If this was an executive, the board would have his butt on the street. No doubt about it. This amounts to personal sabotage of his health. This can't be dismissed as an oops, I forgot excuse. This is an admission that he really wanted to miss time on the sideline. This pisses me off.
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Good lord, you've gone off the rails. In no way shape or form does it state that Kill stopped taking his meds. They are discussing a specific treatment, hell, it could be weed (Info), and he didn't like the way it made him feel.

The amount that you know about the inner workings of this is so minuscule, that anything you post needs to be rejected out of hand.
 



Dean S said:
Now that is spin. The quote says something completely different than what you are saying should have happened. Claeys didn't misspeak. He said it. The quote suggests he stopped taking his meds against protocol. If true, Jerry Kill needs to be fired because his doctors all have briefed him on staying on the medication. Biggest part of any medication briefing is the duration of the course of treatment. This is conduct worthy of a discussion of immediate dismissal. This isn't a trifle of information, this is critical information. Why? This is a major breach of trust in the compact to accommodate his epilepsy and to ignore it during game days and the like. If this was an executive, the board would have his butt on the street. No doubt about it. This amounts to personal sabotage of his health. This can't be dismissed as an oops, I forgot excuse. This is an admission that he really wanted to miss time on the sideline. This pisses me off.
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You've lost it. People with epilepsy will generally be taking medication for the rest of their lives. I assure you that's not what he meant. Get a grip.
 



Dean S said:
And, there is the smoking gun. If Jerry Kill failed to take his meds and he told the U that he had epilepsy at some point, this is grounds for termination if he went off his working meds because he felt better. His failure to maintain, according another coach.

Just saying this is something you say if you want to dethrone the monarch. Seriously, did he say this.
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Agenda Alert!!!
 

Dean S said:
Now that is spin. The quote says something completely different than what you are saying should have happened. Claeys didn't misspeak. He said it. The quote suggests he stopped taking his meds against protocol. If true, Jerry Kill needs to be fired because his doctors all have briefed him on staying on the medication. Biggest part of any medication briefing is the duration of the course of treatment. This is conduct worthy of a discussion of immediate dismissal. This isn't a trifle of information, this is critical information. Why? This is a major breach of trust in the compact to accommodate his epilepsy and to ignore it during game days and the like. If this was an executive, the board would have his butt on the street. No doubt about it. This amounts to personal sabotage of his health. This can't be dismissed as an oops, I forgot excuse. This is an admission that he really wanted to miss time on the sideline. This pisses me off.
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When Claeys said he has tried this treatment before, I assume he means some sort of program that involves rest, perhaps a lot of testing, and perhaps even tweaking meds. Jerry Kill felt fine, and Kill left this program early because he felt better and wanted to get back to the program. This time he may have the resolve to go further into the program (whatever it may be, exactly) because his seizures are a recurring issue.

As I stated, and others have stated, once you have epilepsy, you typically do not stop taking meds. This quote says nothing about meds. He left whatever program he was trying... he did not stop taking meds.

But let's say your jump to an unjustified conclusion is correct, despite it being highly improbable, and Claeys meant that Jerry Kill stopped taking his meds. If that is the case - great! This is a whole lot more treatable than I expected. So here's to you, hoping your brash, unsupported conclusion is correct, Jerry starts taking his meds, and we'll see him back on the football field for NW.

Regardless, I support Kill, and wish him the best in this process.
 

Kill also has not listened to anything he was told to do by GHers. Fire everyone.

Another Saturday, another meltdown.....and not even a game today. My goodness.:cool02:
 

We meltdown after a win. We meltdown after a loss. We meltdown during off weeks. Ahhh, it's football season. :)
 



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