STrib: Buyout clauses prove to be another obstacle in U search

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Interesting picture for the article. Buyout clause should not be what keeps this from happening.
 

Jeez. Those buyouts we are STILL paying for both Monson and Mason are just killer. 5.2M between the two of them, and you can count that money as pretty much just being thrown away. Then add the 750K buyout owed to Brewster, and the added transition costs of his staff leaving (and whatever buyouts need to take place amongst those guys) and the new staff coming in, and that's a lot of fricken dead and wasted money right there.

Maturi OWES it to the University to get this thing right, I mean he literally owes it, because all that wasted money is on him.
 

Mason will at least be supporting our local produce growers by spending it on economy-sized crates of How D'You Like Them Apples(tm)........
 

Now Push The Handle Joel And Flush!

Seany said:
Jeez. Those buyouts we are STILL paying for both Monson and Mason are just killer. 5.2M between the two of them, and you can count that money as pretty much just being thrown away. Then add the 750K buyout owed to Brewster, and the added transition costs of his staff leaving (and whatever buyouts need to take place amongst those guys) and the new staff coming in, and that's a lot of fricken dead and wasted money right there.

Maturi OWES it to the University to get this thing right, I mean he literally owes it, because all that wasted money is on him.
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I wonder how much buyout money has been wasted by the AD's at Notre Dame, Michigan, Miami, Kansas, Louisville, Auburn, Tennessee, San Diego State, Syracuse, Washington, and Clemson during the last several years? They are just a few of the schools that have fired football coaches since 2008. The list of college basketball firings is undoubtedly much longer.

And let me say it one more time before he leaves: President Bruininks deserves as much blame as Maturi for the cost of the Mason extension, the Mason firing, and the Brewster hiring and firing as Maturi does. Maybe more so. Bruininks gave Maturi all of two weeks to do the last football coaching search. The fact that Bruininks has denied any responsbility for what has happened is reprehensible.
 

Many of you have tried to discredit me for telling you about prexy b and badger...

joel maturi and the fiscal incompetence and mismanagement of the football program for a very long time up north.

I still recall that multi-million dollar loan prexy b gave the athletic department to buy out Mason & Monson just a year after extending Mason.

The University of Minnesota needs to be purged of those kinds of fiscal fiascos and failures.

Has prexy b ever repaid the General Fund of the University of Minnesota for his horrible financial mismanagement blunders?

When will it end? Who pays for prexy b and maturi's incompetence?
 

Who pays for the incompetence?

I do, and so do plenty of others. Any of us that go to the games every Saturday, or buy a new sweatshirt every once in a while, or a new MarQueis Gray jersey for our nephew for Christmas, or even occasionally a can of Ro-Tel, some Velveeta, and some Barbasol (Close shave, America).

All of the people that do those things pay for the incompetence displayed by the University of Minnesota in extending the contracts of Glen Mason and Dan Monson when they should have both been fired, and the incompetence displayed in the hiring of Tim Brewster. But we keep paying because, for one reason or another, we love Gopher Athletics.
 

Why all the angst about the cost of a buy-out? If you want a successful D-1 coach you have to cough up the dough and find $$$$ for a buy-out. That's how HC contracts are structured and HC's get fired all the time. Many schools are in the same boat. Its that simple. Maturi knew that when he told us he was going after a succesful D1 head coach so he must figure the $$$ is somewhere.

I don't hear Indiana, Vandy, Colorado, etc bemoaning the fact that buy-outs are hindering their ability to go after the same guys we are.

If not, Coach Horton is ready to go. Or hire a promising OC/DC. We can always drop out of the Big Ten and turn over TCF to the Queens.

Raise ticket prices $10, work with the legislature to liquor-up the suites and cut expenses for the rowing team and its covered.
 




Boosters?

Isn't there a way to get the boosters to kick in for a potential buyout? If everyone is as serious about getting a good coach here it would make sense to me.
 

The problem is Bayfield, prexy b and badger joel...

maturi appear to treat the General Fund of the University of Minnesota as their personal little slush fund for their failed experiments in wrecking the football program. Tuition keeps going up every year. By borrowing from the General Fund of the Unviersity, the costs go on the backs of current students. prexy b has visions of sailing off into the sunset in June and he will NEVER repay his debt that he took out for buying out Mason, Monson and brewster and the money he wasted on the 3 year dunbar contract (dunbar only worked 2 years out of the 3 year guarantee.)

prexy b and badger joel maturi have wasted multi-million dollar amounts of General Fund money with their incompetence.

So, stick it to the students and the parents of the students who are helping to pay the tuition that is used to buy out contracts from the failed and fired coaches that prexy b and badger joel maturi have totally mismanaged...that just doesn't seem right to me.
 

I personnaly thought that the article was tremendously stupid. It treated buyouts as something that has come as a surprise during the search. Since every person on this forum has known about buyouts from day one, to act like this is suddenly an obstacle is totally idiotic.
 



imthewalrus said:
the money he wasted on the 3 year dunbar contract (dunbar only worked 2 years out of the 3 year guarantee.)
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Please let us know how Brewster firing Dunbar without the permission of Maturi or Bruininks is Bruininks' fault. Thanks in advance!
 

Teh prexy of the U of M is responsible for EVERYTHING...

prexy b ok'd the hiring of brewster. He also agreed to EXTEND brewster after the 2009 melt-down. IF he didn't like that brewster fired dunbar, he should have thrown brewster under the bus on the day that brewster did the deed. Or, maybe it was maturi and prexy b who wanted dunbar gone so that they could place hand-chosen people such as the limp-fisch into the position. Once again, they had to approve everything brewster did or they should have gotten rid of him on the spot. The buck always stops at the prexy's desk at the U of M. Always has and always will. Prexy K. had best be a big enough man to accept that awesome responsibility. Because things that the lame duck prexy b is doing right now will add to the plate that Prexy K will have to shoulder the responsibility for. IF you take the job, anything and everything that goes right...or wrong is coming at you. However, until prexy b hands off to Prexy K, he is still responsible for everything.
 

imthewalrus said:
prexy b ok'd the hiring of brewster. He also agreed to EXTEND brewster after the 2009 melt-down. IF he didn't like that brewster fired dunbar, he should have thrown brewster under the bus on the day that brewster did the deed. Or, maybe it was maturi and prexy b who wanted dunbar gone so that they could place hand-chosen people such as the limp-fisch into the position. Once again, they had to approve everything brewster did or they should have gotten rid of him on the spot. The buck always stops at the prexy's desk at the U of M. Always has and always will. Prexy K. had best be a big enough man to accept that awesome responsibility. Because things that the lame duck prexy b is doing right now will add to the plate that Prexy K will have to shoulder the responsibility for. IF you take the job, anything and everything that goes right...or wrong is coming at you. However, until prexy b hands off to Prexy K, he is still responsible for everything.
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So when a patient dies at UMMC under a U doctor's care, that is Bruininks' fault?

How about when a history professor sexually harasses one of his students? Is that Bruininks' fault too?
 

I was at the U today and the valet kid lost my car (for about 10 minutes). I am sure he was hired by someone who was hired by someone who Prexy B hired. They gave me free parking for the entire mixup. So you can add another $4 to that wasted money.
 

dpodoll68 said:
How about when a history professor sexually harasses one of his students? Is that Bruininks' fault too?
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No, but the safety of his students is his responsibility.
 

Stop the whining Wren.

How do suppose Indiana does it after firing Sampson with a $750,000 buyout and now Lynch? Its what happens in big time college sports. So go ahead and fire Brewster after two years and see which successful and proven CFB would even take a sniff at the job.

I know your solution to all this is to have kept Mason and Monson on board. Not.

The goal here is to have competitive programs and a coach that can get us there. And it will cost $$$ no matter if you like it or not. If not, then lead the charge to go D-2.
 

Yep, boys and girls: if you take the job, you are ultimately responsible. Just like the prexy of the good old USA. If you take the job and you take the title, you have bought the operation. You own the property. You are responsible for every hire. You had best take some mighty fast action if one of your employees messes up. IF your well starts pumping oil into the Gulf, you are going to have to answer the questions and get the leak stopped. IF a student is killed on a windy day filming your football practice, you acknowlege that your University is responsible. prexy b has to either take responisbility or make things totally right and spill the beans about what happened, why it happened and what he is doing about it to make it right. He has been wearing the bullseye ever since he accepted the presidency of the University of Minnesota. Who else would ultimately be responsible for the University of Minnesota? IF he can't take the heat he had best walk away right now.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
I was at the U today and the valet kid lost my car (for about 10 minutes). I am sure he was hired by someone who was hired by someone who Prexy B hired. They gave me free parking for the entire mixup. So you can add another $4 to that wasted money.
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Damn Prexy B and his parking foibles! That guy never was never worth a damn at parking cars, despite his Ph.D. in valet.

mattw1067 said:
No, but the safety of his students is his responsibility.
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In such a hypothetical, it's Bruininks' fault (indirectly) if the guy is still employed. It's not Bruininks' fault that something bad happened. That's the subtle difference that our simple-minded rambler is failing to grasp.
 

Bayfield, my answer is why were the contracts of Mason and Monson and brewster all extended a year or less from the time of their buy outs? That is fiscal ruination. That displays total mismanagement and total unawareness. That means waste and total failure on the part of the management of the Unviersity of Minnesota.
 

dpodoll: I am the walrus and you are trying to sell the walrus short.

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Yep, boys and girls: if you take the job, you are ultimately responsible. Just like the prexy of the good old USA. If you take the job and you take the title, you have bought the operation. You own the property. You are responsible for every hire. You had best take some mighty fast action if one of your employees messes up. IF your well starts pumping oil into the Gulf, you are going to have to answer the questions and get the leak stopped. IF a student is killed on a windy day filming your football practice, you acknowlege that your University is responsible. prexy b has to either take responisbility or make things totally right and spill the beans about what happened, why it happened and what he is doing about it to make it right. He has been wearing the bullseye ever since he accepted the presidency of the University of Minnesota. Who else would ultimately be responsible for the University of Minnesota? IF he can't take the heat he had best walk away right now..."

The time of the walrus posting was 10:31am. You posted your attempt at a put-down at 10:31. Guess you were wrong again...just to set the record straight!
 

Here we go again Wren for the umpteenth time. You know that I was never in favor of extending Mason and that I have never endorsed Maturi.

Said that, I would expect that Mason's extension was done for the right reasons with no intentions of firing him after one year. What happened during that year was all on Mason who would probably still be coach if he would have produced. Like it or not, Maturi's hesitation on Monson eventually led to us to Tubby.

This is big business and is cut throat all the way. Each person for themself and their are no assurances and no place for the weak.
 

imthewalrus said:
The time of the walrus posting was 10:31am. You posted your attempt at a put-down at 10:31. Guess you were wrong again...just to set the record straight!
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How am I wrong? You still have yet to explain how Brewster firing Dunbar without permission from his superiors is Bruininks' fault.

The best question of all is how you are allowed to post here.
 

imthewalrus said:
Yep, boys and girls: if you take the job, you are ultimately responsible. Just like the prexy of the good old USA. If you take the job and you take the title, you have bought the operation. You own the property. You are responsible for every hire. You had best take some mighty fast action if one of your employees messes up. IF your well starts pumping oil into the Gulf, you are going to have to answer the questions and get the leak stopped. IF a student is killed on a windy day filming your football practice, you acknowlege that your University is responsible. prexy b has to either take responisbility or make things totally right and spill the beans about what happened, why it happened and what he is doing about it to make it right. He has been wearing the bullseye ever since he accepted the presidency of the University of Minnesota. Who else would ultimately be responsible for the University of Minnesota? IF he can't take the heat he had best walk away right now.
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Please take responsibility for your atrosious grammar. Accountability starts with you. Stop blaming other people.
 

Geeze Wren...

imthewalrus said:
Yep, boys and girls: if you take the job, you are ultimately responsible. Just like the prexy of the good old USA. If you take the job and you take the title, you have bought the operation. You own the property. You are responsible for every hire. You had best take some mighty fast action if one of your employees messes up. IF your well starts pumping oil into the Gulf, you are going to have to answer the questions and get the leak stopped. IF a student is killed on a windy day filming your football practice, you acknowlege that your University is responsible. prexy b has to either take responisbility or make things totally right and spill the beans about what happened, why it happened and what he is doing about it to make it right. He has been wearing the bullseye ever since he accepted the presidency of the University of Minnesota. Who else would ultimately be responsible for the University of Minnesota? IF he can't take the heat he had best walk away right now.
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They are gone, get over it. Wave them goodbye. How much buyout would it cost to buy you a life?
 

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Originally Posted by imthewalrus
The time of the walrus posting was 10:31am. You posted your attempt at a put-down at 10:31. Guess you were wrong again...just to set the record straight!

How am I wrong? You still have yet to explain how Brewster firing Dunbar without permission from his superiors is Bruininks' fault.

The best question of all is how you are allowed to post here.
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+1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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