star trib says vikes may be worst thing to happen to gophers football

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the star trib on the vikes/gophs relationship >> The Vikings might be the worst thing that ever happened to the Minnesota Gophers football program. It's difficult for me to even imagine this, but the Gophers were National Champions in 1960. The Vikings rolled into town the following year and the Gophers have been lousy ever since. They're also attention hogs. Everybody talks about Vikings draft pick this, and Vikings training camp that. << http://www.startribune.com/local/yourvoices/269835451.html
 


We should get a couple of threads going on this. This topic has never come up.
 

It's commonly claimed, but no one is quite sure just how the Vikings harm the Gophers. The Gophers were not "lousy ever since". They won the Big Ten title in 1967. They've been, for the most part, middle of the road, with a couple notable exceptions. If Cal Stoll had played an easy non-conference schedule, the Gophers record would have looked a whole lot better. The Wacker years have really burned themselves into people's brains - that was an era of being pretty awful.
 

Just to point out - this is some blog by an elementary school teacher who writes about fun things to do with his family. It was not written by any StarTrib employee or columnist. File this under who gives a bleep.
 


RodentRampage said:
It's commonly claimed, but no one is quite sure just how the Vikings harm the Gophers. The Gophers were not "lousy ever since". They won the Big Ten title in 1967. They've been, for the most part, middle of the road, with a couple notable exceptions. If Cal Stoll had played an easy non-conference schedule, the Gophers record would have looked a whole lot better. The Wacker years have really burned themselves into people's brains - that was an era of being pretty awful.
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Anything that stupid deserves a Parski award.

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Now if you meant to include the word 'much' between how and the.....you would be correct.
 

I actually think the Gophers will have more wins this year. The Vikings are on a bridge over troubled water as in Teddy
Bridgewater.
 

Hard to take that story seriously. The vikes are well supported that is for sure, but they have nothing to do with some of the slower years the gophers have had. I look forward to watching both programs blossom in the next decade. Ski-U-Mah and Skol Vikings.
 

XMan said:
Hard to take that story seriously. The vikes are well supported that is for sure, but they have nothing to do with some of the slower years the gophers have had. I look forward to watching both programs blossom in the next decade. Ski-U-Mah and Skol Vikings.
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The Vikings will always be behind the Star Tribune in terms of worst things to happen to the Gophers.
 



It doesn't matter. The Vikes don't harm the Gophers any more than they help them. Aside from how popular the NFL is in general, I think a lot of the popularity has to do with access. I didn't have cable until I left home. I hardly ever remember the Gophers being on free TV. Still every Sunday on CBS or NBC, there were the Vikes, unless they were on MNF, which also was on free TV on ABC.
 


Food for thought, with how popular the NFL is now, what do you think the most popular NFL team in town would be if the Vikings never existed? I have a pretty good guess as to what team would be on local TV every week.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
Food for thought, with how popular the NFL is now, what do you think the most popular NFL team in town would be if the Vikings never existed? I have a pretty good guess as to what team would be on local TV every week.
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And that very thought makes me want to vomit green and gold. I would be a Bears fan.
 



maroonfive said:
And that very thought makes me want to vomit green and gold. I would be a Bears fan.
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The GB Packers won almost nothing from the moment New Yorker Lombardi abandoned those Wisco hayseeds and escaped to the Redskins as fast s he could. It took almost 30 plus years of clownlike football, until Farve and that racist, bible thumper D lineman (forgot his name, Asians can turn a watch in to a TV, 40 hispanics can live in one house,watermelon is the..., ect) showed up.

I do not recall a lot of Packers hype around this town for 20-30 years, then all of a sudden there are mobs or green clad inbreds running amok all over Woodbury and the east metro, and local TV station, brain dead hacks doing Packer stories like they are local team any time GB makes a deep playoff run.

I'd prefer the KARE, KSTP, KMSP, or WCCO run a story about the idiocy of Green Bay fans spending thousands of dollars buying absolutely worthless stock "shares" in the Green Bay Packers.

Give me 25 more years of of more typical Chicago Cub failure by the Packers and I'll be happy.

Now concerning those "lifelong" Cub fans......
 

Fatrick hasn't helped much. He said that now that the team is better, we don't need fundraising. The one thing I agree with Sid on (what????) is that Fatboy is Mr. Negative about our Gophers. Allen and Max hurt a lot, too.
 

True. Warmath's excellent teams in the mid to late '60s were outshown in terms of interest and publicity by mediocre Viking teams ('69 the obvious exception).
 

If you love football or even if you just like football and you are not following this Jerry Kill led Gopher football team, you are missing out. Everything that is good about the game, Kill brings to life. The players he is recruiting are smart, good character players with some being young men of faith. Sounds like a recipe for success. Viking "Football" fans that don't watch the Gophers are missing out.
 

Is it possible that it will sell more tickets with the vikings there? Buy a ticket to the gophs on saturday and then the vikes on Sunday.

Maybe we'll pick up some new fans if we play well.

Maybe there aren't many times they both play at home that weekend though.

I've always thought getting viking fans into that stadium can only help.
 

There is only one Gophers-Vikings home weekend. October 11-12, Gophers host Northwestern & Vikings host Detroit.
 

The correct answer for this lies somewhere between Lombardi and the President's Office. There was no lack of Lombardi quotes during the early to mid sixties. He was attributed to have said. "Winning isn't everything, but it's the only thing. In our business, there is no second place." In 1967 the U welcomes an Ivory Tower California appointee who finds the idea of exceptionalism to be morally wrong. Malcom Moose did more to kill athletics at the U than did the Vikings, Star Tribune or another source. He went so far as to promote the University of Chicago Model and abandon all athletics. This at a time when the initial facilities race began. But 1967 was only the beginning of the attack on sports at the U. It lasted for over 20 years through McGrath the Women's AD launch, and the 40 years in the Wilderness to one of the worst pin heads who ever served, Kenneth Keller. This hypocrite continue the budgetary constriction of the Athletic Department while he plowed hundreds of thousands into East Gate. By the time he left we were at least 25 years behind College Football. All by design.
 

Goldteam said:
Is it possible that it will sell more tickets with the vikings there? Buy a ticket to the gophs on saturday and then the vikes on Sunday.

Maybe we'll pick up some new fans if we play well.

Maybe there aren't many times they both play at home that weekend though.

I've always thought getting viking fans into that stadium can only help.
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There are probably many Vikes fans who have never been to an outdoor game. Getting a dose of outdoor football the next two years might pull in some more fans.
 

station19 said:
Anything that stupid deserves a Parski award.

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Now if you meant to include the word 'much' between how and the.....you would be correct.
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I didn't say that the Vikings had no effect on the Gophers, only that the "blame the Vikings" crowd doesn't have good explanations for just how the Vikings cause the Gophers to lose. Whatever effect there might have existed was dwarfed by the U's hiring decisions.

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There can definitely be debate as to what the worst thing to happen to Gopher football is. However, I am fairly confident that whatever really is the worst thing to happen to Gopher football would be something self-inflicted by either a coach, athletic director, or University administrator, not an outside organization.
 

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