Should Gray start vs Michigan State

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ok it time to get this going. should Gray get the start vs Michigan State.
 

I think he's ready to start but I'm guessing he doesn't. Brew and Fisch seem a bit stubborn on this point for some reason.
 

If Decker plays...start Weber...if Decker's still injured...start Gray.......
 

In another post I speculated that he will split the first team duties in practice this week. Weber will get the start and the coaches will be behind him with a real quick hook. I still believe this and its probably the right way to do it.
 

I will answer yes he should as i did on the first thread on this topic. But, he probably won't. Gray can run fast, he is tough to bring down and he can throw far and Weber unfortunately has regressed in all aspects of his game. The coaches should focus on giving their younger players playing time.
 



bankonit said:
This thread was already started at 2:08 PM today. Do you read before posting?
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yeah i saw it after that. and another thing. maybe you should shut up before making a smart***remark.

sorry just got pissed, when someone had to back storming into a thread and make a post like that.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

ncgo4 said:
In another post I speculated that he will split the first team duties in practice this week. Weber will get the start and the coaches will be behind him with a real quick hook. I still believe this and its probably the right way to do it.
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I echo this thought. I think it is what they will do and I think its what they should do.



Oh, and I think this is a good thread. Thanks for starting it.
 

not to wish ill, or especially injury, on anyone, but in the long run is the team better off in the long run if Decker is out? I agree that whether or not Decker can play will and probably should influence the QB decision. And I don't think anyone would argue against us having a better chance to beat MSU if Decker is healthy. But say Decker needs another week to heal and Gray starts. It gives him a chance to shine, and it allows an opportunity for some of the younger WR's to step up. Maybe I'm looking for silver linings?
 



Today was not Weber's fault. With 11 dropped passes and the enormous amount of penalties, he can't be blamed for all that.
 

Decker should be held out vs MSU...

to make sure he's ready for IU and SDSU...the Gs best shot at wins IMHO. Seems like a good idea to get Gray ready for heavy duty next year by getting him at least 50% of the snaps vs the Spartons.
 

Weber

Today was not Weber's fault but the problem is every team we face this year their quarterback looks better then ours. Weber has no rythm and has struggled all season. I think the O-line has taken way to much blame for our qb problems this year. I do think Gray will see a lot of playing time next week even though Weber will start the game.
 

Weber seems not to have made the big improvement, year to year, that Abdul-Khaliq made. Remember how bad Ak looked as a sophomore and what a big improvement he made from soph to junior? Then he made an even bigger leap his senior year, leading the nation in pass efficiency. Something seems to be wrong with Weber this year - he's in the 50s, percentage-wise in completions, has more incompletes than touchdowns, gets sacked a lot more (he was being chased just as hard the past two years). Something is wrong. Gray seemed more confident today, more relaxed, passed well and is our biggest and best running back - he should be playing more.
 



gold04 said:
Today was not Weber's fault but the problem is every team we face this year their quarterback looks better then ours. Weber has no rythm and has struggled all season. I think the O-line has taken way to much blame for our qb problems this year. I do think Gray will see a lot of playing time next week even though Weber will start the game.
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Greg Paulus looked like a chicken with it's head cut off & Weber outshined Mike Kafka...kinda.......
 

In recent times MSU has struggled more defensively vs. spread teams than those that come right at you sorta' vanilla but hard-nosed. (i.e. Iowa). I can see Gray giving Sparty more trouble than Weber. It might be time to see what Gray can do.
 

weber or gray

Weber's confidence is so shaken at this point that he's gone from being a potted plant to having happy feet. When he's right he's our best QB. A good portion of the blame has to be placed on the offensive coordinator who has created an offense that has everyone confused.
 

YES! I would rather lose with Gray getting some experience then playing Weber another down.
 

doctor j said:
Weber's confidence is so shaken at this point that he's gone from being a potted plant to having happy feet. When he's right he's our best QB. A good portion of the blame has to be placed on the offensive coordinator who has created an offense that has everyone confused.
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I disagree...a confusing Offense is an excuse, Weber has always been bad against good teams & in his 3rd year starting there is no excuse why he is out there looking like a Freshman.......
 

Start Gray for the rest of the year. As far as I am concerned, absent an injury to Gray (God let's hope not) Weber's days at QB in the maroon and gold are over. Gray gives us as good of a chance, if not better, to win the game than Weber. What, are we afraid that Gray will be successful in a starting role? And don't give me the crap that starting would shatter Gray's confidence because that argument does not work. He has to start sometime and all starting QB's take their lumps at some point in their college career. This is the perfect time for Gray to start. The season is over, take your lumps now, and next year Gray will lead MN to the promise land (which means a winning conference record and a respectable team).

GO GRAY, we support you...and GO MN!!!!!
 

I disagree, I think Weber should continue to start with increased substitution at this point. I think it is inevitable who the starter will be long term. Don't throw him to the wolves yet, he said it, he is not ready. A quarter on the sidelines seeing what is going on can have huge benefit to someone that is inexperienced. Platooning would seem to be the solution for now.
 

Okay, this may sound dumb, but what about switching every play. That way the QB runs in with the play from the sideline each down. Maybe they would get too winded doing that every play.
 

the time has come. adam is ineffective. no more excuses. gray has burned the red-shirt.

let's begin his development, record be damned.
 

Donovan said:
Okay, this may sound dumb, but what about switching every play. That way the QB runs in with the play from the sideline each down. Maybe they would get too winded doing that every play.
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That's not dumb...that's how a 2 QB System usually works.......
 

thailleagle said:
That's not dumb...that's how a 2 QB System usually works.......
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Not any 2 QB systems that i've seen. Usually a QB will get a series and then the other QB would get a series. Sometimes, they'll switch every couple plays but i've never seen a QB system where they'll switch every play.
 

I remember a team once that switched to the second QB when they got into the red zone.
 

StewieGopherFan said:
Not any 2 QB systems that i've seen. Usually a QB will get a series and then the other QB would get a series. Sometimes, they'll switch every couple plays but i've never seen a QB system where they'll switch every play.
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Tennessee about a decade back, alternate plays, alternate QB's.......
 

It was mentioned earlier on the thread...that if Decker plays, then Weber should start....I don't see what the two have to do with each other. Pretty sure I saw #5 throw a nice bullet pass to #7 on Saturday.

I think anyone who watched on saturday would say that Gray needs to be on the field a lot more. There should be no question there.

We can tolerate some youthful mistakes here and there, a lot more understandable than the same ol' mistakes over and over from the vet.
 

UptownMaroon&Gold said:
It was mentioned earlier on the thread...that if Decker plays, then Weber should start....I don't see what the two have to do with each other. Pretty sure I saw #5 throw a nice bullet pass to #7 on Saturday.

I think anyone who watched on saturday would say that Gray needs to be on the field a lot more. There should be no question there.

We can tolerate some youthful mistakes here and there, a lot more understandable than the same ol' mistakes over and over from the vet.
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Because Weber & Decker usually forces a Defense to change it's Gameplan knowing what the 2 are capable of if playing right. Gray starting could bring out a Base D with some tricks which isn't something he needs during his first start especially against a team as well put together as MSU.......
 

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