Shooter: The Gophers and Claeys are discussing a salary adjustment.

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Joel Maturi doesn't understand this at all. What's the rush?
 

It's the standard gamble. Give him a raise now, or the price could go up if the Gophers win out. On paper, they might lose a key staff member to a HC gig. In reality, Claeys isn't going anywhere, so no rush. The way he's handled himself has been arguably outstanding, and a normally quiet, behind-the-scenes type, he's been exposed to the Gopher fans, who should be pleased.
 


Assistant Head Coach or Co Head Coach possibilities???
 


Maverick said:
Assistant Head Coach or Co Head Coach possibilities???
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Was thinking the same thing about an "Associate" or "Assistant" title, but Bill Miller has an Assistant Head Coach title now, so not sure how that would work.

2011: Minnesota - Assistant Head Coach/Linebackers
 


afurry91 said:
Assistant to the head coach
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Just give the man a substantial raise and give him assurance we want him around and to speak with the admin if he is getting offers. Make him the heir apparent.
 



Dean S said:
Just give the man a substantial raise and give him assurance we want him around and to speak with the admin if he is getting offers. Make him the heir apparent.
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Agreed. We saw what happened to the hockey team when Coach Guentzel left.
 

I would argue all of the coaching staff should be considered for some type of raise. They have taken Kill's health situation and made it a non-issue for the team the past few weeks. Claeys has been awesome, but he has been the only one thrust in the spotlight while Kill gets everything figured out. The rest of the staff probably took on some additional responsibility too.
 

Maybe Jerry would take a pay reduction if it were allocated to Claeys and the rest of the working staff? I recall he said he'd take a pay reduction in the past (maybe after the UNC scheduling fallout).
 

Gopher Warrior said:
Maybe Jerry would take a pay reduction if it were allocated to Claeys and the rest of the working staff? I recall he said he'd take a pay reduction in the past (maybe after the UNC scheduling fallout).
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Just can't help yourself can you? :cool:
 



I wonder if this will factor into Jerry's contract extension negotiations. Instead of him getting an $800k increase. Maybe he takes less and has the difference split up between his assistants.
 


Gopher Warrior said:
Maybe Jerry would take a pay reduction if it were allocated to Claeys and the rest of the working staff? I recall he said he'd take a pay reduction in the past (maybe after the UNC scheduling fallout).
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I don't know that he offered to take a pay cut, but what I recall is Kill told the powers that be that he wanted the assistants to get more money before there was any talk of Kill getting a bigger contract. And whether you're trying to bait people or not I do believe the timing was around (but nothing to do with) the UNC fiasco, only because that was when the first stories about how much less Kill makes than the next lowest paid coach in the B1G were coming out.
 

Give Claeys a big bonus this year and then up both coordinator's pay next year.

In case you missed the bottom of Shooter's article, I'm glad all the idiot Bohl talk is off this board and moving over to Nebraska's.
 

MNGoldenGophers1 said:
Give Claeys a big bonus this year and then up both coordinator's pay next year.

In case you missed the bottom of Shooter's article, I'm glad all the idiot Bohl talk is off this board and moving over to Nebraska's.
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Winning makes all the difference. After losing to Michigan, Kill missing that game was a huge problem. After back to back upset wins, him missing three in a row is not. Hope Nebraska enjoys the minor league allstar they hire after Pelini gets canned.
 



Lakeville Goldy said:
I don't know that he offered to take a pay cut, but what I recall is Kill told the powers that be that he wanted the assistants to get more money before there was any talk of Kill getting a bigger contract. And whether you're trying to bait people or not I do believe the timing was around (but nothing to do with) the UNC fiasco, only because that was when the first stories about how much less Kill makes than the next lowest paid coach in the B1G were coming out.
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I remember it differently, but would have to look back at things to be sure.

At any rate, the "funny" thing about the claims re: Kill's compensation is that it's not factual. Numerous media-types and therefore the masses have latched onto this "Kill is the lowest paid Big Ten coach by $800,000"... not sure if they're confused by the $800,000 UNC buyout or what, but that's way off from reality.

In fact, Kill's compensation package isn't the least valuable in the Big Ten, period. When the Gophers march into Bloomington as heavy underdogs to Indiana, remember the two head coaches (well, one head coach and one who is not the acting head coach) make approximately the same... although Kill has the more favorable academic incentives related largely to Brewster years.

Hope they take care of Claeys & staff.

PS - Nice win by UNC last weekend! They're now 2-5.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
I remember it differently, but would have to look back at things to be sure.

At any rate, the "funny" thing about the claims re: Kill's compensation is that it's not factual. Numerous media-types and therefore the masses have latched onto this "Kill is the lowest paid Big Ten coach by $800,000"... not sure if they're confused by the $800,000 UNC buyout or what, but that's way off from reality.

In fact, Kill's compensation package isn't the least valuable in the Big Ten, period. When the Gophers march into Bloomington as heavy underdogs to Indiana, remember the two head coaches (well, one head coach and one who is not the acting head coach) make approximately the same... although Kill has the more favorable academic incentives related largely to Brewster years.

Hope they take care of Claeys & staff.

PS - Nice win by UNC last weekend! They're now 2-5.
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Technically he has the lowest salary in the big ten at $1.2M ($600K salary and $600K media, shoe, etc). It's true he doesn't make strictly $800k less than the next highest paid coach, Kevin Wilson, but his incentives are pretty steep climbs. If he hit every one of them he sill would only be the 7th highest paid coach if you don't count the possible incentives for other coaches, which I'm sure they have. Last year he got $25K for making a bowl which still left him short. With the bowl this year and the high apr score he'll get another $100k. He'll still be paid less than Kevin Wilson. Now if Kill gets five big ten wins he'll get $50k. Those five wins might get him cost him the additional $100k he'd get for playing in the Outback or Capitol One bowls because they'd hurt either Wisconsin or Michigan St and maybe cost the B1G a second BCS team. But let's say Kill and company manage to win out and get some help from the football gods and they win or tie for the division. He gets another $100K plus probably an additional $25K for the sixth B1G win. If that happened you'd probably expect him to be B1G COY. He gets another $25K. Maybe even National COY, $100K

So let's add that up.

Salary $1.2M
APR $75K
6 B1G wins $75
Good Bowl $100K
Division title $100K
COY $25K
Natl COY $100K

So that's $1,675,000, which would be good enough for 8th in the conference between Anderson ($1.8M) and Beckman ($1.6M)

I'm surprised someone who spends so much time telling people how smart and informed you are can't look up the actual contract and do some basic math. Also, don't you think that every other coach in the conference has an incentive package similar to Kill's? Oh but that's just too inconvenient isn't it? Moron.
 

My guess is that Claeys' salary adjustment has less to do with his recent success as acting head coach and more to do with the fact that his duties as acting head coach probably exceed the duties that he is contractually obligated to perform, thus, a renegotiation to compensate for the extra responsibility is natural. I wouldn't look too deeply into this.
 

gophmeister said:
Technically he has the lowest salary in the big ten at $1.2M ($600K salary and $600K media, shoe, etc). It's true he doesn't make strictly $800k less than the next highest paid coach, Kevin Wilson, but his incentives are pretty steep climbs. If he hit every one of them he sill would only be the 7th highest paid coach if you don't count the possible incentives for other coaches, which I'm sure they have. Last year he got $25K for making a bowl which still left him short. With the bowl this year and the high apr score he'll get another $100k. He'll still be paid less than Kevin Wilson. Now if Kill gets five big ten wins he'll get $50k. Those five wins might get him cost him the additional $100k he'd get for playing in the Outback or Capitol One bowls because they'd hurt either Wisconsin or Michigan St and maybe cost the B1G a second BCS team. But let's say Kill and company manage to win out and get some help from the football gods and they win or tie for the division. He gets another $100K plus probably an additional $25K for the sixth B1G win. If that happened you'd probably expect him to be B1G COY. He gets another $25K. Maybe even National COY, $100K

So let's add that up.

Salary $1.2M
APR $75K
6 B1G wins $75
Good Bowl $100K
Division title $100K
COY $25K
Natl COY $100K

So that's $1,675,000, which would be good enough for 8th in the conference between Anderson ($1.8M) and Beckman ($1.6M)

I'm surprised someone who spends so much time telling people how smart and informed you are can't look up the actual contract and do some basic math. Also, don't you think that every other coach in the conference has an incentive package similar to Kill's? Oh but that's just too inconvenient isn't it? Moron.
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The name calling is a nice touch, but were you directing that at me or yourself? You went on and on and on with specific numbers regarding Kill and other coaches (some of which you got wrong, by the way).. yet you didn't give specifics on who and what I specifically referred to after starting your post with "Technically he has the lowest salary in the big ten at $1.2M ($600K salary and $600K media, shoe, etc). It's true he doesn't make strictly $800k less than the next highest paid coach, Kevin Wilson, but his incentives are pretty steep climbs."

Let's be real.

1) How much more do you believe Kevin Wilson's guaranteed compensation is as compared to Jerry Kill's and why? You did such a nice little breakdown on information that has little to do with the conversation - give it a try on the topic at hand. Are you looking at a copy of his current contract? If not, have you ever reviewed it?

When you don't let your e-motions get the best of you and simply look at the facts, your prior ignorance will be revealed.
 

Nobody held a gun to Kill's head and said he had to take the deal offered by Minnesota. He could have turned it down and went back to NI at probably around $250K or he could have negotiated for a better deal. As it is, he's making some multiple of what he was making before and if things fall his way in a year or two or three he'll be making some multiple of what he's currently making here.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
The name calling is a nice touch, but were you directing that at me or yourself? You went on and on and on with specific numbers regarding Kill and other coaches (some of which you got wrong, by the way).. yet you didn't give specifics on who and what I specifically referred to after starting your post with "Technically he has the lowest salary in the big ten at $1.2M ($600K salary and $600K media, shoe, etc). It's true he doesn't make strictly $800k less than the next highest paid coach, Kevin Wilson, but his incentives are pretty steep climbs."

Let's be real.

1) How much more do you believe Kevin Wilson's guaranteed compensation is as compared to Jerry Kill's and why? You did such a nice little breakdown on information that has little to do with the conversation - give it a try on the topic at hand. Are you looking at a copy of his current contract? If not, have you ever reviewed it?

When you don't let your e-motions get the best of you and simply look at the facts, your prior ignorance will be revealed.
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Yes let's be real. You said Kill makes approximately the same as Wilson but to me when the difference is $100K it's not the same. I have read the signed contract in PDF form and it confirms everything I've written and proves you're a lying piece of sh!+. So what if Kill gets $75K if the team achieves higher than a 960 APR? Kevin Wilson get $100k for doing nothing along with his base salary of $1.2 million. Let's not get facts in the way of your agenda. You should post a link to your poorly written blog to prove your point. Loser.
 

gophmeister said:
Yes let's be real. You said Kill makes approximately the same as Wilson but to me when the difference is $100K it's not the same. I have read the signed contract in PDF form and it confirms everything I've written and proves you're a lying piece of sh!+. So what if Kill gets $75K if the team achieves higher than a 960 APR? Kevin Wilson get $100k for doing nothing along with his base salary of $1.2 million. Let's not get facts in the way of your agenda. You should post a link to your poorly written blog to prove your point. Loser.
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You are completely wrong. Better read again. Wilson's base (base and supplemental guaranteed) is $1.1MM, not $1.2MM. Kill's is $1.2MM. Those are stated per the contracts - however, reading the contracts isn't enough - you must know of any merit increases over the past few years, which you do not mention.

The $100k additional expenses stipend he receives is taxable and goes toward some things that Kill receives tax free.

There are several other important differences in the contracts between these two, but they would be far over your head and not worth the time to try and educate you on.
 


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