Saban's 'Bama Program Compared to Gopher Dynasty of Past

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I don't understand last night when watching the game why they never mentioned the Gophers? They said only 3 coaches had 4 national titles and didn't mention Bierman with 5! Also, they were talking about 3 titles in 4 years and didn't mention the 3 consecutive by MN.

And the part that frosted me was that they said specifically since the poll era began in 1936, which is when all of MN's championships but 1 are from.
 

Lakeville Goldy said:
And the part that frosted me was that they said specifically since the poll era began in 1936, which is when all of MN's championships but 1 are from.
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Not correct. If you include the "7th" national title, 4 are from the pre-poll era, and 3 are from the poll era.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Not correct. If you include the "7th" national title, 4 are from the pre-poll era, and 3 are from the poll era.
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Curious. Why does the 'poll era' start in 1936 if they took the poll in 1934? The term 'Super Bowl' was not used until Jets-Colts in 1969, but nobody says the Packers didn't win the first two Super Bowls. The Gophers kind of get screwed with this convention.
 


badgergopher said:
Curious. Why does the 'poll era' start in 1936 if they took the poll in 1934? The term 'Super Bowl' was not used until Jets-Colts in 1969, but nobody says the Packers didn't win the first two Super Bowls. The Gophers kind of get screwed with this convention.
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The AP only conducted one random poll in 1934, on November 15, with 2 games left to play. They conducted none in 1935, and beginning in 1936, conducted polls during the last 7 weeks of the season. The 1936 polls were the first regular, consistent polls that allowed room for upward/downward movement during the course of the season, so it's entirely accurate to say that 1936 was the beginning of the poll era.
 

dpodoll68 said:
The AP only conducted one random poll in 1934, on November 15, with 2 games left to play. They conducted none in 1935, and beginning in 1936, conducted polls during the last 7 weeks of the season. The 1936 polls were the first regular, consistent polls that allowed room for upward/downward movement during the course of the season, so it's entirely accurate to say that 1936 was the beginning of the poll era.
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Got it. Thanks.
 

All Titles are Mythical, and there is nothing about the AP poll that makes it more authoritative than other polls or Natl Title awarding institutions. I am sure I am biased about this, but that doesn't mean I am wrong, and I think its wrong to cut cfb history in half and act like Minnesota didn't win the Natl Title in the 2 year prior to 1936 as well.

Minnesota gets so screwed, by when they started the AP poll, by when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and got the US involved, etc.. Just kind of irks me that Sports Illustrated's Sports Almanac, AND ESPN's Sports Almanac and numerous web sites, all list Minnesota as the consensus Champion in 34 and 35, and of course, 36, but then ESPN columnists act like cfb history started in 1936. You can say that they have to start somewhere, why not there, and I say, thats just plain laziness.

At least in another article ESPN did, they listed Minnesota as one of the 7 greatest dynasties ever in cfb history, and there, wow, magically they gave Minnesota credit for those titles in 34 and 35. See, I think they thought it would make a good story about dynasties to include Minnesota in that first article, but then another columnist thought it would make the story about Bama sound even more interesting if this time, they didn't mention Minnesota. So whether it was laziness, ignorance, or a strategic decision, I think less of the person who wrote the article.
 




dpodoll68 said:
Not correct. If you include the "7th" national title, 4 are from the pre-poll era, and 3 are from the poll era.
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Wow I was batting 1.000 yesterday. Holy crap. Between this great math (1934 isn't after 1936?) and questioning if they'd be able to use Barker's non-existant scholarship I was really on a roll...
 

wait!what? Are you trying to say something to me? Good? Bad? If so, I'm not a mind reader, and maybe not a genius either, so you need to be more specific with me. lol

I know my # of posts are not high, but its not because I'm a newbie. Been visiting the Gopherhole for a long time. Can't remember my old login/password. It was something like MinnesotaPride or UMnPride? Got real busy for a couple of years so didn't frequent this place for awhile. But I'm not new if that is what you were trying to point out?
 

very cool. always good to see those great gopher teams of the past remembered in a national sense.
 

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