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That link didn't work - here's the full article:
Suspended freshman Royce White 'open' to remaining with Gophers men's basketball team
Freshman insists he is innocent of on-campus theft
By Marcus R. Fuller
Despite saying in a YouTube video last month that he was quitting college basketball, Royce White isn't ready to give it up just yet.
That's why the suspended University of Minnesota freshman hasn't asked to be released from his scholarship. He said he thought the YouTube announcement would relieve the burden on his team and family after weeks of White being labeled a suspect in a stolen-laptop case.
"It was a decision I had to make, because I felt like (the case) was not being handled the right way," the 6-foot-8, 250-pound five-star recruit from Hopkins High School said Monday of the YouTube video. "I just felt like it didn't make sense for me to be a distraction for them. If I wasn't on the team anymore, then I thought they could just go on about things just like I was never there.
"But that didn't happen. The talk continued to be around me, so I decided that I would come back, be around and show that I'm still supporting the team."
Gophers coach Tubby Smith suspended White indefinitely on Nov. 3 for unspecified rules violations. White says it was for an Oct. 13 shoplifting incident at Macy's at Mall of America and that the suspension was supposed to be lifted after two exhibition games.
But when he became a suspect in the Nov. 7 laptop theft on campus, the suspension continued. White said in the video that he doesn't want to play for another school, and he stands by that.
"I'm leaving it open, just in case the situation can be rectified," White said. "But as it stands right now, it's late in the game. It's 16 games in. And it's for something I didn't do."
Smith gave White permission two weeks ago to watch a couple of practices. White said he also lifted weights with the Gophers.
White said he still could play this season, or would consider redshirting for next season, if he's cleared soon of any involvement in the laptop case. But he said he would have to talk that decision over with his family and friends.
Meanwhile, White and his attorney, F. Clayton Tyler, said they are frustrated that University police have taken so long to finish investigating an incident that occurred more than two months ago.
Last month, University Deputy Police Chief Chuck Miner said the case had been turned over to the Minneapolis city attorney's office for possible prosecution. Actually, that didn't happen. Miner said Tuesday he had been misinformed. Miner said the investigator has one more interview to conduct before the case is passed along next week.
"We're making sure we do it right versus do it speedy," Miner said. "The more people that are involved, the longer it takes."
LONG DELAYS IN CASE
White admits he messed up once, saying it was "dumb" to steal a T-shirt and jeans from Macy's. He pleaded guilty to shoplifting and fifth-degree assault.
"It was definitely an idiot thing to do," he said. "When you look back, there are always decisions that you regret, but it happened."
As for the laptop case, White said he is innocent, that the only thing he is guilty of is being in Territorial Hall that night, where the robbery occurred — and that police have enough information to clear him.
White said the victim acknowledged he didn't steal the laptop, which later was found. Miner said University police don't have any such statement from the laptop owner saying White didn't take it. The laptop owner declined to comment Tuesday when contacted by the Pioneer Press.
White also said a video that police have of Territorial Hall that night shows nothing to indicate he or anyone in his group had the laptop. Miner said the surveillance video didn't show enough to conclude whether White did or did not have it with him when leaving the building.
White said university police have treated him unfairly, assuming he was involved because of the Mall of America incident. White said he and his family initially were uncomfortable with him being on campus for school, but he decided to stay anyway.
"I feel like if the campus police are trying to pin something on me that I didn't do, then what's going to happen next?" White said. "There's a large group of people who want this thing to be over with, but nobody can do anything about it. I feel like if they can be irresponsible when it comes to me, then they can do anything they want."
Miner said THE case isn't being treated any differently than normal. He said similar burglary cases don't usually take this long to investigate, but circumstances have contributed to the delay, including not being able to get to some student witnesses during Christmas break and scheduling issues with White and Tyler.
"It took awhile to set up a meeting with him," Miner said. "Once we did, we weren't getting the cooperation that he alluded we would get. That prolonged things a bit. The investigator was out ill for a week or two, and had a vacation there. Little things come up like that, too. It's not about rushing to get it done, but obviously we want to get it done as quickly as possible. For a variety of factors, this one took longer than a normal one would, but it has nothing to do with the fact that it's Royce White or anything."
White said he did cooperate with police, except that he wouldn't identify any other members of his group.
"I didn't really want to agree to do that because there's already been too many people's names dragged into it, including mine, that shouldn't have been," White said. "It doesn't make sense to drag anybody else's name into it if I don't know that they did it or not. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that."
YOUTUBE MARKETING
White said the YouTube videos allowed him to get his message out, his way.
The videos say they are produced by White & Brown Entertainment, White's record label and one of the business ventures he wants to promote.
"It was also a marketing strategy I came up with," he said. "Those things are very expensive."
A marketing major at the U, White said he is doing well in school and wants a degree. Besides being a student-athlete, he sees himself as a music producer, a songwriter and an entrepreneur
"There's plenty of basketball players that do other things," said White. "I'm just starting a little earlier."
Even if he can't play for the Gophers, he is working out. He participated in the Keep the Peace charity basketball game Sunday at Minneapolis North High School.
The Gophers (12-4, 3-1 Big Ten), who play tonight at Michigan State, have missed the inside presence White could have provided. White said it was hard watching the Gophers, especially from afar.
He wanted to at least be on the sideline to encourage his teammates. But White said Minnesota athletics director Joel Maturi didn't want White around where the media would have access to him.
White understood, but he's eager to get this all behind him.
"If the situation goes right, then I would love to play basketball in a Gopher uniform," White said. "That would be the ideal world, but we don't live in a perfect world sometimes."
Go Gophers!!
Suspended freshman Royce White 'open' to remaining with Gophers men's basketball team
Freshman insists he is innocent of on-campus theft
By Marcus R. Fuller
Despite saying in a YouTube video last month that he was quitting college basketball, Royce White isn't ready to give it up just yet.
That's why the suspended University of Minnesota freshman hasn't asked to be released from his scholarship. He said he thought the YouTube announcement would relieve the burden on his team and family after weeks of White being labeled a suspect in a stolen-laptop case.
"It was a decision I had to make, because I felt like (the case) was not being handled the right way," the 6-foot-8, 250-pound five-star recruit from Hopkins High School said Monday of the YouTube video. "I just felt like it didn't make sense for me to be a distraction for them. If I wasn't on the team anymore, then I thought they could just go on about things just like I was never there.
"But that didn't happen. The talk continued to be around me, so I decided that I would come back, be around and show that I'm still supporting the team."
Gophers coach Tubby Smith suspended White indefinitely on Nov. 3 for unspecified rules violations. White says it was for an Oct. 13 shoplifting incident at Macy's at Mall of America and that the suspension was supposed to be lifted after two exhibition games.
But when he became a suspect in the Nov. 7 laptop theft on campus, the suspension continued. White said in the video that he doesn't want to play for another school, and he stands by that.
"I'm leaving it open, just in case the situation can be rectified," White said. "But as it stands right now, it's late in the game. It's 16 games in. And it's for something I didn't do."
Smith gave White permission two weeks ago to watch a couple of practices. White said he also lifted weights with the Gophers.
White said he still could play this season, or would consider redshirting for next season, if he's cleared soon of any involvement in the laptop case. But he said he would have to talk that decision over with his family and friends.
Meanwhile, White and his attorney, F. Clayton Tyler, said they are frustrated that University police have taken so long to finish investigating an incident that occurred more than two months ago.
Last month, University Deputy Police Chief Chuck Miner said the case had been turned over to the Minneapolis city attorney's office for possible prosecution. Actually, that didn't happen. Miner said Tuesday he had been misinformed. Miner said the investigator has one more interview to conduct before the case is passed along next week.
"We're making sure we do it right versus do it speedy," Miner said. "The more people that are involved, the longer it takes."
LONG DELAYS IN CASE
White admits he messed up once, saying it was "dumb" to steal a T-shirt and jeans from Macy's. He pleaded guilty to shoplifting and fifth-degree assault.
"It was definitely an idiot thing to do," he said. "When you look back, there are always decisions that you regret, but it happened."
As for the laptop case, White said he is innocent, that the only thing he is guilty of is being in Territorial Hall that night, where the robbery occurred — and that police have enough information to clear him.
White said the victim acknowledged he didn't steal the laptop, which later was found. Miner said University police don't have any such statement from the laptop owner saying White didn't take it. The laptop owner declined to comment Tuesday when contacted by the Pioneer Press.
White also said a video that police have of Territorial Hall that night shows nothing to indicate he or anyone in his group had the laptop. Miner said the surveillance video didn't show enough to conclude whether White did or did not have it with him when leaving the building.
White said university police have treated him unfairly, assuming he was involved because of the Mall of America incident. White said he and his family initially were uncomfortable with him being on campus for school, but he decided to stay anyway.
"I feel like if the campus police are trying to pin something on me that I didn't do, then what's going to happen next?" White said. "There's a large group of people who want this thing to be over with, but nobody can do anything about it. I feel like if they can be irresponsible when it comes to me, then they can do anything they want."
Miner said THE case isn't being treated any differently than normal. He said similar burglary cases don't usually take this long to investigate, but circumstances have contributed to the delay, including not being able to get to some student witnesses during Christmas break and scheduling issues with White and Tyler.
"It took awhile to set up a meeting with him," Miner said. "Once we did, we weren't getting the cooperation that he alluded we would get. That prolonged things a bit. The investigator was out ill for a week or two, and had a vacation there. Little things come up like that, too. It's not about rushing to get it done, but obviously we want to get it done as quickly as possible. For a variety of factors, this one took longer than a normal one would, but it has nothing to do with the fact that it's Royce White or anything."
White said he did cooperate with police, except that he wouldn't identify any other members of his group.
"I didn't really want to agree to do that because there's already been too many people's names dragged into it, including mine, that shouldn't have been," White said. "It doesn't make sense to drag anybody else's name into it if I don't know that they did it or not. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that."
YOUTUBE MARKETING
White said the YouTube videos allowed him to get his message out, his way.
The videos say they are produced by White & Brown Entertainment, White's record label and one of the business ventures he wants to promote.
"It was also a marketing strategy I came up with," he said. "Those things are very expensive."
A marketing major at the U, White said he is doing well in school and wants a degree. Besides being a student-athlete, he sees himself as a music producer, a songwriter and an entrepreneur
"There's plenty of basketball players that do other things," said White. "I'm just starting a little earlier."
Even if he can't play for the Gophers, he is working out. He participated in the Keep the Peace charity basketball game Sunday at Minneapolis North High School.
The Gophers (12-4, 3-1 Big Ten), who play tonight at Michigan State, have missed the inside presence White could have provided. White said it was hard watching the Gophers, especially from afar.
He wanted to at least be on the sideline to encourage his teammates. But White said Minnesota athletics director Joel Maturi didn't want White around where the media would have access to him.
White understood, but he's eager to get this all behind him.
"If the situation goes right, then I would love to play basketball in a Gopher uniform," White said. "That would be the ideal world, but we don't live in a perfect world sometimes."
Go Gophers!!
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Great article balancing both sides of the story. Statements from White as well as statements from U Police mixed in with facts that have been released. Really well done. We need more reporting like this in this town.
That said - this makes me even more angry at why this is taking so long. The laundry list of excuses from the police is ridiculous, self-righteous, and exhausting. I don't know if he did it or not, but 99% of these types of cases would have been resolved with the cop saying "sorry kid, better lock your door next time."
That said - this makes me even more angry at why this is taking so long. The laundry list of excuses from the police is ridiculous, self-righteous, and exhausting. I don't know if he did it or not, but 99% of these types of cases would have been resolved with the cop saying "sorry kid, better lock your door next time."
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Utterly unbelievable...
This is an amazingly f'd up situation.
On the one hand, you've got White who more than likely did nothing wrong but on the other hand, could easily put an end to the situation and give up his friends, who also may or may not have done anything wrong.
On the other hand, you've got the campus police, AKA Keystone Kops. They think they have the leverage in the situation because White wants to play, so they're dragging it out in hopes that White ultimately caves in and gives them what they want.
Haven't any of these people seen "Scent of a Woman" with Pacino and Chris O'Donnell? This saga has drawn out PRECISELY following this movie plot, without Royce White taking a trip to NYC with a blind retired vet.
I would respond with Pacino's classic monologue at the conclusion of the film: "I don't know if Royce's silence is right or wrong, I'm not a judge or jury... but he's not going to sell out his friends to buy his future."
Make no mistake, this is 100% about the ego of the Campus Police. This is why they did not turn the case over to MPLS PD (big brother), and face admitting that they couldn't take care of their own house. They also hate that Royce is not caving in like they had clearly anticipated.
I'll never defend Royce for some of the things he did; young or not, he's been guilty of being just plain f'n stupid and using horrible judgment. Like it or not, Royce, people frequently judge you by the company you keep and you may be facing some hard decisions when it comes to this.
But the whole situation is beginning to make me sick to my stomach. These buffoons from the Campus Police have to start realizing how incredibly idiotic they're beginning to look, like complete fools.
It's time to realize, whether they like it or not, that this just isn't going anywhere.
Where's Al Pacino when you need him?
This is an amazingly f'd up situation.
On the one hand, you've got White who more than likely did nothing wrong but on the other hand, could easily put an end to the situation and give up his friends, who also may or may not have done anything wrong.
On the other hand, you've got the campus police, AKA Keystone Kops. They think they have the leverage in the situation because White wants to play, so they're dragging it out in hopes that White ultimately caves in and gives them what they want.
Haven't any of these people seen "Scent of a Woman" with Pacino and Chris O'Donnell? This saga has drawn out PRECISELY following this movie plot, without Royce White taking a trip to NYC with a blind retired vet.
I would respond with Pacino's classic monologue at the conclusion of the film: "I don't know if Royce's silence is right or wrong, I'm not a judge or jury... but he's not going to sell out his friends to buy his future."
Make no mistake, this is 100% about the ego of the Campus Police. This is why they did not turn the case over to MPLS PD (big brother), and face admitting that they couldn't take care of their own house. They also hate that Royce is not caving in like they had clearly anticipated.
I'll never defend Royce for some of the things he did; young or not, he's been guilty of being just plain f'n stupid and using horrible judgment. Like it or not, Royce, people frequently judge you by the company you keep and you may be facing some hard decisions when it comes to this.
But the whole situation is beginning to make me sick to my stomach. These buffoons from the Campus Police have to start realizing how incredibly idiotic they're beginning to look, like complete fools.
It's time to realize, whether they like it or not, that this just isn't going anywhere.
Where's Al Pacino when you need him?
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Whoo -Ahhh!!!!!!!!!!
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Agreed - enough is enough - I've seen a couple of minor theft cases where the police wouldn't even show up to take a statement.
The best thing about the article (and it was a very good article), was that it portrays Royce as still having desire to be a Gopher and support his teammates. I understand that he many never put on the maroon and gold uniform, whether his choice or the choice of others, but this makes me hopeful that he is indeed getting back on the right track. Good for him!
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Maybe we should start printing t-shirts, bumper stickers, and lawn signs that say "FREE ROYCE" and start wearing them and posting them up all over campus (especially by the campus police station)! We need to put some pressure on some people and get this thing settled! Go Gophers!!!!!!!!!! 
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I don't know or care whether Royce is innocent, but.....
Police are egotistical by nature. Why does one have the urge to become a cop? Its to be able to exert power over others. It's about ego. And once they get a taste of it, the ego only grows the longer the cop is on the job. Yes, there might be motivations to do right, and there are cops without ego, but IMO a vast majority are fueled by the power and control.
Police are egotistical by nature. Why does one have the urge to become a cop? Its to be able to exert power over others. It's about ego. And once they get a taste of it, the ego only grows the longer the cop is on the job. Yes, there might be motivations to do right, and there are cops without ego, but IMO a vast majority are fueled by the power and control.
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Maybe we should start printing t-shirts, bumper stickers, and lawn signs that say "FREE ROYCE" and start wearing them and posting them up all over campus (especially by the campus police station)! We need to put some pressure on some people and get this thing settled! Go Gophers!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck with that one, dude.
So old Royce won't tell the cops his buddies' names? What an idiot. Something smells fishy.....what's the harm in that if they are all innocent? And if they aren't, then why the hell would he throw away his freshman year and quite possibly his entire college basketball career to "protect" them?
Looks to me like Royce bluffed and the campus police called his bluff. While I agree that this seems kind of like a cluster-eff, Royce has dug part of the hole himself. Even if he is innocent.
I sure wish he was playing for us, that's for sure. But maybe he's just dumb. Sure is doing some dumb things. Maybe you should stop being dumb, Royce, and you'd be playing college basketball.
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Touche! Fat fingered that one, that's for sure! (Corrected - and I stand by the post.)
snitches get stitches.
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I still think White......
is better off keeping his yap shut. He can make his case behind the scenes without airing every anything in public.
is better off keeping his yap shut. He can make his case behind the scenes without airing every anything in public.
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Even if they're innocent? (The "snitched" upon, that is?) In the adult world, if everyone is innocent, then there's nothing to worry about in giving them the names. On the other hand, if Royce knows who stole the laptop and won't tell for that reason, then he's clearly hanging out with the wrong folks. Folks who don't give a rats ass about his basketball career. 'Cuz he/they are screwing it up big time, if that's who he is "protecting." Either way, Royce is blowing it.
Unless he shuts up and - continues to - fly straight.
And again, I'd love to have him on this team right now. He could be immensely helpful and possibly put us in the hunt for a Big Ten title and more......
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We don't. That is Myron.
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IMO here is the deal--
I don't know if Royce is innocent or not. I believe that the police have nothing. Nothing on him. Nothing on anyone else. They have a notion that either Royce, or someone in his posse could have been the thief. They know Royce was there, so they talk to him. Royce gives them nothing. The police drag it out, hope that Royce spills the beans or gives up some names in the meantime because of the leverage they have with w/ Royce wanting back on the court.
Eventually, IMO, they will finally clear him. I also think Royce probably knows something about the laptop and who might have done it, but he isn't saying.
That's all just what I think is going down based on everything I have read. I have no sources or any thing. Just my theory on the entire deal, there are probably some holes in it.
I don't know if Royce is innocent or not. I believe that the police have nothing. Nothing on him. Nothing on anyone else. They have a notion that either Royce, or someone in his posse could have been the thief. They know Royce was there, so they talk to him. Royce gives them nothing. The police drag it out, hope that Royce spills the beans or gives up some names in the meantime because of the leverage they have with w/ Royce wanting back on the court.
Eventually, IMO, they will finally clear him. I also think Royce probably knows something about the laptop and who might have done it, but he isn't saying.
That's all just what I think is going down based on everything I have read. I have no sources or any thing. Just my theory on the entire deal, there are probably some holes in it.
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Completely agree. I understand that investigations can take a while, but this is getting to be ridiculous. You could very well be preventing a kid from playing basketball at a major university, and you come out with an excuse that an investigator was sick and went on vacation. Give me a break. The University Police owe it to any student not to tie them up in some unnecessarily long investigation, especially when there is as little solid evidence as there seems to be against Royce.
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As much as I'd like Royce to be cleared, isn't he obstructing justice by not answering the questions that aren't about him? If the people he were with that night were really is friends, wouldn't they turn themselves in for questioning and relieve Royce of the burden he has trying to protect them?
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I am glad you are not my friend....should change your moniker to GopherRat
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"I still think White is better off keeping his yap shut. He can make his case behind the scenes without airing every anything in public."
Touche.
Apparently, Royce is much more willing to air his grievances (read: talk) to his fawning, adoring public than he is to (read: talk) cooperate fully with the authorities by providing names of the guys who were with him. That's his choice, fine, just don't come whining to me about it.
Touche.
Apparently, Royce is much more willing to air his grievances (read: talk) to his fawning, adoring public than he is to (read: talk) cooperate fully with the authorities by providing names of the guys who were with him. That's his choice, fine, just don't come whining to me about it.
I'm no marketing major but I would guess that one of the first things you want to do in marketing is to identify your market.
IMO Royce should be marketing two audiences: 1. the authorities, and 2. Tubby.
It seems to me it would be best for him to 'market' the authorities through his attorney and not the media.
I believe Tubby has a rule that Freshman do not talk to the media in their 1st semester. Since Royce is still awaiting his first semester on Tubby's team it is my guess that the best way to 'market' Tubby in this regard is to stay away from the media until after he finishes his first semester of play with the team.
Good article by Marcus, though. I am pulling for Royce - he could be a great help. Perhaps he should try for a little low profile behind the scenes 'marketing' - at least for a while.
IMO Royce should be marketing two audiences: 1. the authorities, and 2. Tubby.
It seems to me it would be best for him to 'market' the authorities through his attorney and not the media.
I believe Tubby has a rule that Freshman do not talk to the media in their 1st semester. Since Royce is still awaiting his first semester on Tubby's team it is my guess that the best way to 'market' Tubby in this regard is to stay away from the media until after he finishes his first semester of play with the team.
Good article by Marcus, though. I am pulling for Royce - he could be a great help. Perhaps he should try for a little low profile behind the scenes 'marketing' - at least for a while.
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You can give Royce all the crap in the world about the case and everything, but his Twitter, Youtube videos, and Facebook status' have been used to create a ton of buzz around his name while he has been out.
When he was announcing his YouTube video there were several newspapers reporting on it and he had this whole board in an uproar for several days. The guy is a marketing stud in terms of generating buzz around himself and being able to craft his image as something other than, "That basketball player who got busted for those crimes and never played."
I give him all the credit in the world for doing that, despite it potentially being against Tubby's rules or whatever.
When he was announcing his YouTube video there were several newspapers reporting on it and he had this whole board in an uproar for several days. The guy is a marketing stud in terms of generating buzz around himself and being able to craft his image as something other than, "That basketball player who got busted for those crimes and never played."
I give him all the credit in the world for doing that, despite it potentially being against Tubby's rules or whatever.
I'd love to know what really happened behind the scenes with this. Royce didn't do it, according the girl. She's provided no statement to the police. Could someone tell me why the police haven't gotten the statement from her?
They have no evidence that Royce or his friends are involved, there are no charges. Why again hasn't Royce been allowed to rejoin the team until this is cleared up?
They have no evidence that Royce or his friends are involved, there are no charges. Why again hasn't Royce been allowed to rejoin the team until this is cleared up?
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Contrary to what White (and his "pals") say, I think Maturi and the coaching staff have/are handling this mess about as well as it can be handled.
But whether or not White (and his "pals") think he is being mistreated, his options are somewhat limited. The ONLY way White plays D-1 basketball next year (after already missing this season) is to play for the Gophers, because a transfer means another year sitting out. Additionally, he MUST stay out of trouble, as the next run-in with the law will almost certainly get him booted, for good, from the Gopher program.
That said, I hope to see White on (not in) the court next year.
But whether or not White (and his "pals") think he is being mistreated, his options are somewhat limited. The ONLY way White plays D-1 basketball next year (after already missing this season) is to play for the Gophers, because a transfer means another year sitting out. Additionally, he MUST stay out of trouble, as the next run-in with the law will almost certainly get him booted, for good, from the Gopher program.
That said, I hope to see White on (not in) the court next year.
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Is the assumption here that there is no possibility that he could play this year? I would assume he will not, but what happens if he's cleared of the laptop incident next week? Does anyone think that would leave him enough time to get back in Tubby's good graces this season? There's a lot of season left, and he would at least have the possibility of becoming an impact player by tourney time.