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Ohio State Players Sign Endorsement Deals Following NCAA Name, Image and Likeness Changes

Ohio State players are now free to profit from their name, image and likeness, and they've begun to sign endorsement deals.

 

Outside serious scholarship limits.... not much will change things.
 



Can we at least out-endorse Wisconsin and Iowa?
That will make us winners
 


Outside serious scholarship limits.... not much will change things.
I am in the camp that the ruling will be the end of college football as we know it. It will morph into a professional underleague and will slowly pull away from the universities. There is nothing to slow the escalation down now. The NCAA was a Scare Crow, but at least schools had to work within its shadow I dont blame the kids - if people make big money off of their backs then they should get a taste.
 


Ohio State, Clemson, and Alabama already pretty much have an oligopoly on the 4-team playoff.

It may well be that they can make their players the richest, and thus get the best recruits.

But they were already getting the best recruits under the old way.
 

I am in the camp that the ruling will be the end of college football as we know it. It will morph into a professional underleague and will slowly pull away from the universities. There is nothing to slow the escalation down now. The NCAA was a Scare Crow, but at least schools had to work within its shadow I dont blame the kids - if people make big money off of their backs then they should get a taste.
I agree. I am fine with college players getting money, but I love college football and basketball and I think this is the beginning of the end. I do not know all the details of the new rule, but I can see a wealthy alum deciding he wants his alma mater to be a power and "buys" the best players. It doesn't need to be a good business decision, just give the players enough money to come to your school of choice under the guise of an endorsement deal. And, the players are not going to get a piece of the pie; they are getting a piece of a whole new pie. They will not be getting paid out of TV revenue or gate proceeds, but from outside supporters or organizations. So, it will be interesting to see what happens over the next several years.
 



I agree. I am fine with college players getting money, but I love college football and basketball and I think this is the beginning of the end. I do not know all the details of the new rule, but I can see a wealthy alum deciding he wants his alma mater to be a power and "buys" the best players. It doesn't need to be a good business decision, just give the players enough money to come to your school of choice under the guise of an endorsement deal. And, the players are not going to get a piece of the pie; they are getting a piece of a whole new pie. They will not be getting paid out of TV revenue or gate proceeds, but from outside supporters or organizations. So, it will be interesting to see what happens over the next several years.
I can foresee such an outcome too. But is this a bad thing?

The landscape of college football make be readjusted in view of all of this, but so what? It may give those who never had hope an opportunity to hope. It stands to reason that a successful school that turns out successful graduates will be rewarded in this environment. I think that's more in line with what we want.
 

I agree. I am fine with college players getting money, but I love college football and basketball and I think this is the beginning of the end. I do not know all the details of the new rule, but I can see a wealthy alum deciding he wants his alma mater to be a power and "buys" the best players. It doesn't need to be a good business decision, just give the players enough money to come to your school of choice under the guise of an endorsement deal. And, the players are not going to get a piece of the pie; they are getting a piece of a whole new pie. They will not be getting paid out of TV revenue or gate proceeds, but from outside supporters or organizations. So, it will be interesting to see what happens over the next several years.
The new recruiting decision point will be which donor/booster family-controlled company offers the recruit the best endorsement deal. The top recruits will effectively negotiate, before signing with a school, their salary deal--which might include bonuses--for their college years. As these dollars will be targeted to the top-rated players, many college games in the brave new future will feature unpaid amateurs against very well-paid semi-pro's.
 


I can foresee such an outcome too. But is this a bad thing?

The landscape of college football make be readjusted in view of all of this, but so what? It may give those who never had hope an opportunity to hope. It stands to reason that a successful school that turns out successful graduates will be rewarded in this environment. I think that's more in line with what we want.
The schools that will be rewarded are the ones that have the wealthiest donors. It will be like pro sports, with athletes choosing teams based off who will give them the highest salary.
 



I can foresee such an outcome too. But is this a bad thing?

The landscape of college football make be readjusted in view of all of this, but so what? It may give those who never had hope an opportunity to hope. It stands to reason that a successful school that turns out successful graduates will be rewarded in this environment. I think that's more in line with what we want.
What??? I don't think that has anything to do with it at all. As a matter of fact, it probably hurts schools with nice academics like ours. If an athlete can get more money elsewhere, they won't look at our education as being as much of a deciding factor as it might have been before. Recruit is trying to decide between us and Ole Miss, for example. Right now PJ can tell the parents what a great education we provide compared to Ole Miss. Now Ole Miss can say "so what, he'll get paid more down here".
 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. One thing I have not really heard mentioned is the fact that we are located in a major metropolitan area and have access to businesses and corporations in a way that most schools don't.

Fleck is very good at capitalizing on new trends, gotta believe he is going to find a way to make this work in our favor.
 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. One thing I have not really heard mentioned is the fact that we are located in a major metropolitan area and have access to businesses and corporations in a way that most schools don't.

Fleck is very good at capitalizing on new trends, gotta believe he is going to find a way to make this work in our favor.
Let me know when the major corporations decide they want to start using individual college athletes no one knows as their people for advertising
 

Let me know when the major corporations decide they want to start using individual college athletes no one knows as their people for advertising
There always has to be a wise guy. Having spent most of my life, including my entire youth, living in Minneapolis, I can say that during and after the 2019 season I saw more people wearing Gopher gear than ever before. Businesses notice things like that. And sure, the backup punter whom nobody knows isn't likely to get any endorsements, but - nevermind, I'm done with your worthless snark.
 

My love of college sports since I was a young kid has always been based on true amateurism. Wearing the Maroon and Gold out of pride for the school and representing the entire state/fan base has always earned my ultimate respect and admiration.

The concept that college athletes can now get paid is an absolute farce. They’ve been getting paid for decades with tuition, boarding and meal plans.

If you want to get paid, go pro, go to Europe…hell…maybe get a job. College athletics was meant for elite HS athletes to further their athletic aspiration while getting a fully funded degree. What we’re left with today is greed over honor and the end of college sports as it was intended.
 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. One thing I have not really heard mentioned is the fact that we are located in a major metropolitan area and have access to businesses and corporations in a way that most schools don't.

Fleck is very good at capitalizing on new trends, gotta believe he is going to find a way to make this work in our favor.
Since the beginning of NIL, I have felt the same way. There should be tremendous opportunities for athletes and local/national businesses to capitalize in a large metropolitan area.

Can anyone tell me if paying recruits outright to attend a university is now legal? I mean can alumni/donors start giving cars and money to sign the letter of intent now?
 

There always has to be a wise guy. Having spent most of my life, including my entire youth, living in Minneapolis, I can say that during and after the 2019 season I saw more people wearing Gopher gear than ever before. Businesses notice things like that. And sure, the backup punter whom nobody knows isn't likely to get any endorsements, but - nevermind, I'm done with your worthless snark.
My “snark” is purely pragmatism in what’s been the world here in the Cities. They have every nfl player and coach (we are a Vikings city and state), mlb player, nhl player, mls player, nba player all of whom will be ahead of these guys on the pecking order and the companies we have here are not using athletes frequently as is (I don’t think I’ve ever seen a target ad with a sports figure). I love the cities, the state and the opportunities it affords; but I, based on past evidence, have an exceedingly hard time believing now these companies are going to jump on the college train with a bunch of unproven athletes rather than just donate to the general scholarship fund like I’m guessing they already do. The deals being done are, by and large, going to be lower tier companies trying to make a name (this will likely be relatively equal across P5), lower to middle tier companies who have donors who are looking to pay for play (heavily in favor of high hitters), Internet and Instagram startups (will favor bigger brands), and high end brands poaching the most elite kids at brand schools (would imagine will be heavily seen in basketball). Again that’s my conjecture, but I have a real hard time seeing target or 3m or Best Buy picking a college player here for a National brand when they have a multitude of pro athletes here who are household names across the country or at least regionally, rather than just among the gopher devout
 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. One thing I have not really heard mentioned is the fact that we are located in a major metropolitan area and have access to businesses and corporations in a way that most schools don't.

Fleck is very good at capitalizing on new trends, gotta believe he is going to find a way to make this work in our favor.
I sincerely hope you're right. New pitch for hiring of coaches is now also going to cover this "payment" issue for the players. Schools now will say that we've got x number of corporations willing to give players funds to make it easier to recruit.
 

Since the beginning of NIL, I have felt the same way. There should be tremendous opportunities for athletes and local/national businesses to capitalize in a large metropolitan area.

Can anyone tell me if paying recruits outright to attend a university is now legal? I mean can alumni/donors start giving cars and money to sign the letter of intent now?
Even if it's not outright legal, they can just give money to them and say it's for using their likeness.
 

My “snark” is purely pragmatism in what’s been the world here in the Cities. They have every nfl player and coach (we are a Vikings city and state), mlb player, nhl player, mls player, nba player all of whom will be ahead of these guys on the pecking order and the companies we have here are not using athletes frequently as is (I don’t think I’ve ever seen a target ad with a sports figure). I love the cities, the state and the opportunities it affords; but I, based on past evidence, have an exceedingly hard time believing now these companies are going to jump on the college train with a bunch of unproven athletes rather than just donate to the general scholarship fund like I’m guessing they already do. The deals being done are, by and large, going to be lower tier companies trying to make a name (this will likely be relatively equal across P5), lower to middle tier companies who have donors who are looking to pay for play (heavily in favor of high hitters), Internet and Instagram startups (will favor bigger brands), and high end brands poaching the most elite kids at brand schools (would imagine will be heavily seen in basketball). Again that’s my conjecture, but I have a real hard time seeing target or 3m or Best Buy picking a college player here for a National brand when they have a multitude of pro athletes here who are household names across the country or at least regionally, rather than just among the gopher devout
Didn't Lindsay Whalen do some commercials at some point? Can't remember if she had already graduated, but I'm pretty certain she would have garnered a lot of interest back in '03. McCarville too. If they can generate interest, you don't think some business will go after some of the football players if we have seasons like 2019?
 

Can anyone tell me if paying recruits outright to attend a university is now legal? I mean can alumni/donors start giving cars and money to sign the letter of intent now?
One thing I thought I read at one point, and maybe this isn't part of the solution now, is that they player must already be enrolled at the University. I think that would be a major factor in trying to keep the playing field from being more tilted.
 

Since the beginning of NIL, I have felt the same way. There should be tremendous opportunities for athletes and local/national businesses to capitalize in a large metropolitan area.

Can anyone tell me if paying recruits outright to attend a university is now legal? I mean can alumni/donors start giving cars and money to sign the letter of intent now?
Not outright, but obviously it will be super easy to abuse.
 

Ohio State, Clemson, and Alabama already pretty much have an oligopoly on the 4-team playoff.

It may well be that they can make their players the richest, and thus get the best recruits.

But they were already getting the best recruits under the old way.
Yup the bcs playoffs started this. The sport has deteriorated ever since.
 

Didn't Lindsay Whalen do some commercials at some point? Can't remember if she had already graduated, but I'm pretty certain she would have garnered a lot of interest back in '03. McCarville too. If they can generate interest, you don't think some business will go after some of the football players if we have seasons like 2019?
Will some businesses? Yes of course. Well the fortune 500s we all love to cite or any heavy hitters? I’m less optimistic. We are not huge in the sports or gaming industries which is where I’d imagine the bigger money and higher consistency donations will come
 

Will some businesses? Yes of course. Well the fortune 500s we all love to cite or any heavy hitters? I’m less optimistic. We are not huge in the sports or gaming industries which is where I’d imagine the bigger money and higher consistency donations will come
My point was that Fleck has been very good at adapting to new situations and changing as needed. This is a new opportunity and I have no doubt that Fleck will do everything he can to capitalize on it probably more so than some of the more old school or traditional coaches will.
 

My point was that Fleck has been very good at adapting to new situations and changing as needed. This is a new opportunity and I have no doubt that Fleck will do everything he can to capitalize on it probably more so than some of the more old school or traditional coaches will.
That’s fair and I hope so. Does anyone know if coaches can at all be involved in brokering these deals? Ot is it exclusively on the athlete?
 

My point was that Fleck has been very good at adapting to new situations and changing as needed. This is a new opportunity and I have no doubt that Fleck will do everything he can to capitalize on it probably more so than some of the more old school or traditional coaches will.
Yeah, I'd be more worried if I was an Iowa fan. Can Ferentz adapt to this as fast as Fleck, and what is down there that can pay the players?
 




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