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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>When all is said and done, this Gophers' turnaround not a hell of a lot different than Brewster's turnaround in 2008.</p>— Patrick Reusse (@1500ESPN_Reusse) <a href="https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse/statuses/416784564577529856">December 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jerry Kill is now 0-5 in FBS postseason games: 2008 Independence Bowl - La. Tech 17, NIU 10; 2009-Int'l Bowl - S. Florida 27, NIU 3 ...</p>— Patrick Reusse (@1500ESPN_Reusse) <a href="https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse/statuses/416797252888190978">December 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>... 2010 MAC Championship - Miami 26, NIU 21; 2012 Meineke Bowl - Texas Tech 34, Gophers 31; 2013 Texas Bowl - Syracuse 21, Gophers 17.</p>— Patrick Reusse (@1500ESPN_Reusse) <a href="https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse/statuses/416798111227338753">December 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Miami (Ohio) was 17-pt underdog when it won 2010 MAC championship in last game Kill coached at NIU.</p>— Patrick Reusse (@1500ESPN_Reusse) <a href="https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse/statuses/416798702821335040">December 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Does Country Jer get another chance to win a postseason game that soon? <a href="https://twitter.com/shaneorm1">@shaneorm1</a> Too soon. Wait for tomorrow.</p>— Patrick Reusse (@1500ESPN_Reusse) <a href="https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse/statuses/416799376502034432">December 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Certainly the last two were decided in the last couple of minutes. Point taken though.
 

Go4 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>When all is said and done, this Gophers' turnaround not a hell of a lot different than Brewster's turnaround in 2008.</p>— Patrick Reusse (@1500ESPN_Reusse) <a href="https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse/statuses/416784564577529856">December 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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This comment doesn't make sense to me. So because the turnaround year of Brewster didn't end with long term success, then because this year was almost the same, Kill has no chance as well?
 

I don't get the Brewster comparison either. About the only thing Brewster that can be said in regard to this year's team is that the defense featured several of his recruits and most of them played fairly well, but I don't foresee the bottom falling out for Kill the way it did for Brewster. Ultimately, he may not succeed to our expectations, but it won't be because he doesn't have a well-defined system in place.
 



Reusse is reaching right now and trying to stir the pot as usual. His comments don't really make sense and is really selective in what he's picking to harp on. Great Kill is 0-5 in FBS postseason but has won postseason games. Kill did not lose this game by any stretch. Despite the emotions right now, this team is still moving in the correct direction. Will it be sustained? we shall see. but I sure like the foundation Kill has laid far more than Brew's
 

Is Reusse's point really about the idea that Kill has not done well in games where he has time to prepare and game plan for an opponent? At NIU and here we have seen an overall improvement with the entire structure of the team. We are fundamentally better than any Brewster team. However, is Jerry Kill's achille's heel in the area of not being innovative and creative for a one-and-done game where there is time to build in specific plays and game plan for that one opponent? I don't know. I'm just asking a question.
 

tinyarch said:
Is Reusse's point really about the idea that Kill has not done well in games where he has time to prepare and game plan for an opponent? At NIU and here we have seen an overall improvement with the entire structure of the team. We are fundamentally better than any Brewster team. However, is Jerry Kill's achille's heel in the area of not being innovative and creative for a one-and-done game where there is time to build in specific plays and game plan for that one opponent? I don't know. I'm just asking a question.
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Fair question.
 

I thought the staff and team prepared very well last year vs TTech. They were a couple plays away from beating a better team.
 




While the way they got there wasn't the same, the seasons were similar. Brewster's Gophers won their 4 Non-Conference games, lost their B1G opener, won their next 3 and lost their last 5 to get to 7-6. He got them ranked as high as 20th the week before the NW game.

Kill won his 4 Non-Conference games, lost his first two B1G games, won his next 4 and then lost his last 3 to get to 8-5. He got them ranked as high as 23rd the week of the Wisconsin game.

That comparison doesn't bother me.

Brewster's 2008 team fell apart because they were decimated by injuries and had little depth. Kill's team ended-up losing at least 3-4 games because they had no semblance of a Passing Game.

Expecting Brewster to holding things together and adding that depth, while his best Assistants left and he dumped the best part of his program, the Passing Game, was to much to ask. Betting that Kill will fix what's wrong with his Passing Game seems to a much safer bet.
 

Iceland12 said:
Expecting Brewster to holding things together and adding that depth, while his best Assistants left ...
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Why did his assistants leave? I never quite understood that - just that it happened.
 

lugnard said:
Why did his assistants leave? I never quite understood that - just that it happened.
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Some Brewster changing his mind on what system to run (Mike Dunbar). Some were guys moving on to better jobs (Everett Withers to work for Butch Davis at UNC, Ted Roof to Auburn, Jedd Fisch to the Seahawks), and even though they were moves up the coaching ladder that they were working for Brewster with his uneasy job status certainly didn't help things.
 



tinyarch said:
Is Reusse's point really about the idea that Kill has not done well in games where he has time to prepare and game plan for an opponent? At NIU and here we have seen an overall improvement with the entire structure of the team. We are fundamentally better than any Brewster team. However, is Jerry Kill's achille's heel in the area of not being innovative and creative for a one-and-done game where there is time to build in specific plays and game plan for that one opponent? I don't know. I'm just asking a question.
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If that's his point, he can state that without the patronizing arrogance of which most of his work drips. Ever since he became a "big time radio guy" on ESPN 1500, he's tried to be more "ballsy." What it's done is make him sound like a pompous jerk in most cases.
 


The resemblance is superficial at best. First, we need to put Brewster's 2008 turnaround in context. He inherited a 6-win team, and turned it into a 1-win team. It was a surprising turnaround from his first year, but not a big turnaround compared to where the team was that he inherited.

In year 1, Brewster's team had five less wins than the year before he was hired.
In year 2. Brewster's team had one more win than the year before he was hired.
In year 3, Brewster's team had as many wins as the year before he was hired.
In year 4, Brewster's team* had three less wins than the year before he was hired.

*Assuming we credit Brewster with these wins, as we have no idea if the Gophers would have won the games with him coaching.

In year 1, Kill's team had as many wins as the year before he was hired.
In year 2, Kill's team had three more wins than the year before he was hired.
In year 3, Kill's team had five more wins than the year before he was hired.

Now let's compare the 2008 and the 2013 seasons. Both are similar in that both teams won all four non-conference games, with no games against BCS teams. The 2008 team won three Big Ten games, while the 2013 team win four Big Ten games. It seems fairly similar, although one more Big Ten win is not insignificant.

But let's take a closer look, let's look at who each team beat:

The 2008 team beat an Illinois team that was 3-5 in the Big Ten, and 5-7 overall; an Indiana team that was 1-7 in the Big Ten and 3-9 overall; and a Purdue team that was 2-6 in the Big Ten and 4-8 overall.

The 2013 team beat Northwestern, who was 1-7 in the Big Ten and 5-7 overall; Penn State who was 4-4 in the Big Ten and 7-5 overall; Indiana who was 3-5 in the Big Ten and 5-7 overall; Nebraska who was 5-3 in the Big Ten and 8-4 overall.

Collectively, the Big Ten teams the 2008 Gophers beat were 6-18 in the Big Ten and 12-24 overall, while the Big Ten teams the 2013 Gophers beat were 13-19 in the Big Ten and 25-23 overall. The 2008 Gophers were beaten soundly by a Michigan team that was 2-6 in the Big Ten and 3-9 overall, and the 2008 Gophers lost to Iowa 55-0.

The 2013 Gophers didn't even play the two worst teams in the Big Ten, missing out on Illinois and Purdue.
 

The loss to Syracuse was disappointing. JK's 0-5 bowl record is awful. I've learned much this year about the Twin Cities media, especially the Tribune. In my opinion, the culture is part of the problem and the media certainly, and unfortunately, plays a significant part. I believe in Jerry Kill and the transformation of the Gopher fan base has come a long way this year. Positive energy is underrated.

The tweets by Reusse state some facts, but his strib co-worker also wrote some facts (Kill had more game-day seizure's than B1G wins). In the process of trying to win the '14 B1G title, reading or listening to either of them does the Gopher program no good.
 

tinyarch said:
Is Reusse's point really about the idea that Kill has not done well in games where he has time to prepare and game plan for an opponent? At NIU and here we have seen an overall improvement with the entire structure of the team. We are fundamentally better than any Brewster team. However, is Jerry Kill's achille's heel in the area of not being innovative and creative for a one-and-done game where there is time to build in specific plays and game plan for that one opponent? I don't know. I'm just asking a question.
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Not sure, but could be Limegrover's
 

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