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Reusse: Gophers put their faith in a kid coach

A week ago a lot of the talk was about Flip Saunders. Today we have Richard Pitino.

Tell me a week ago that the choice was Flip Saunders, a passionate Gopher with an outstanding resume, or a 30-year-old former student manager with little more than a famous surname to validate his candidacy, and I would have been standing in front of Williams Arena, acting as goofy as Larry Spooner at a Vikings’ stadium hearing, holding a sign and shouting, “Flip, Flip, Flip.’’

Teague and Ellis started this search as the two smartest guys in any basketball room. They return with a coach much more suspect than what poor old Northwestern managed in Chris Collins, an assistant but fully trained, rather than the nonfiction version of Billy Heywood.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/201367091.html

Go Gophers!!
 

He is such an unhappy person. He ought to be pleasant at the presser.
 

"I don't like him because, uh, because he's YOUNG. Yeah!"

This stuff rots your brain. Read something else.
 


Patrick's not the only one who's making too big a deal about age. The echo hasn't even died from all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how Flip is too old. Is it possible that either hire would have been good and age is way down the list of important factors?
 


Holy crap Bad Gopher, I'm going to struggle sleeping after seeing that new avatar.

A relative of yours?

Go Gophers!!
 

I love how he suggests/infers that gophers chose Pitino over Flip. Ah, Flip turned the job down.
 

I wouldn't be surprised if Reusse checked out the early response to the hiring, and promptly took the opposite viewpoint just to tick people off.

Reusse can be a good writer, and he still turns out a good column every now and then, but it seems like he can't resist being negative - especially when it involves Gopher Sports. I had no doubt that, no matter who was hired, Reusse would criticize the choice.
 

For crying out loud, Patrick! When are you going to un-depress us? Say something nice for a change.
 



Bad Gopher said:
Patrick's not the only one who's making too big a deal about age. The echo hasn't even died from all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how Flip is too old. Is it possible that either hire would have been good and age is way down the list of important factors?
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Yes and that's the most reasonable thing that been said all day.
 

I like the fact that he's young. Young people generally relate to young people better than old people relate to young people. What's the problem?
 

BleedGopher said:
Reusse: Gophers put their faith in a kid coach

A week ago a lot of the talk was about Flip Saunders. Today we have Richard Pitino.

Tell me a week ago that the choice was Flip Saunders, a passionate Gopher with an outstanding resume, or a 30-year-old former student manager with little more than a famous surname to validate his candidacy, and I would have been standing in front of Williams Arena, acting as goofy as Larry Spooner at a Vikings’ stadium hearing, holding a sign and shouting, “Flip, Flip, Flip.’’

Teague and Ellis started this search as the two smartest guys in any basketball room. They return with a coach much more suspect than what poor old Northwestern managed in Chris Collins, an assistant but fully trained, rather than the nonfiction version of Billy Heywood.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/201367091.html

Go Gophers!!
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Chris Collins has a famous surname as well as the son of Doug Collins. I am concerned about Pitino's age, but to call him a "former student manager" when he's actually been the head coach of a D-1 program is unfair. I think that training as a head coach, even just for one year, supersedes sitting in the second (or third) chair for 6-7 more years.
 

I can understand wanting Flip and I can understand not preferring a younger coach. But Rich Pitino (at 30) has more experience in college ball, he is currently been involved in college ball and he is trending upward.

I get the Flip stuff, he's our guy and he has NBA experience. But these are two different kinds of coaches with two different phases of their career. He's doing nothing but attempting to appeal to the Flip crowd to rally around his need to rip on the U.

The Chris Collins comparison. . .um. . . Collins has zero head coaching experience and few more years of experience in college (all at one place, that has produced zero good coaches from their tree). I know Fat Pat's opinion is that Gopher fans like the hire because we are "drinking the Kool Aid", but that's obviously not true. Look at the reaction to the Wojo thread (Wojo compares to Collins) and the reaction to the Pitino thread (before it got serious), way more people liked Pitino to Wojo.

This morbidly obese moron likes to write garbage to generate clicks. There is a contingent of people around the area who aren't Gopher fans and they are the kind of people that like Fat Pat. How much college basketball do you think he's watched?
 



EG#9 said:
Chris Collins has a famous surname as well as the son of Doug Collins. I am concerned about Pitino's age, but to call him a "former student manager" when he's actually been the head coach of a D-1 program is unfair. I think that training as a head coach, even just for one year, supersedes sitting in the second (or third) chair for 6-7 more years.
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Fat Pat isn't aiming his articles at college basketball fans. He'll get clicks from the people who are too dumb to understand this point or just not interested in college athletics.
 

Bad Gopher said:
Patrick's not the only one who's making too big a deal about age. The echo hasn't even died from all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how Flip is too old. Is it possible that either hire would have been good and age is way down the list of important factors?
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I agree. I didn't want Flip, but it wasn't because of his age. At least that was one of the least important factors.
 

Honestly, can we not post about Reusse articles? I know Bleed will put them up, and I know the traffic and clicks are good for GH, but can we at least try?

Reusse waters down his stuff to the least common denominator and intentionally antagonizes the same targets/themes. Look no further than the mouth breathers over at the Strib comment section, Reusse writes for those kind of people.

This chump gets off on reading stuff like that, stop giving him the satisfaction by talking about it.

A writer's worst fear is not being hated, it's not being cared about.
 

If we would have hired Flip the article would have been about how a young "up and comer" like Rich Pitino would have invigorated the program. He would have bashed Flip for his old age and not having any college experience in decades.

It's his act, as soon as you people accept that you'll be happier. ;)
 

He's officially given Pitino less rope than he gave Brewster. At least Brew got one positive 'give him a chance' column before the introductory press conference, where the honeymoon swiftly ended. Come on Pat.
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
Honestly, can we not post about Reusse articles? I know Bleed will put them up, and I know the traffic and clicks are good for GH, but can we at least try?

Reusse waters down his stuff to the least common denominator and intentionally antagonizes the same targets/themes. Look no further than the mouth breathers over at the Strib comment section, Reusse writes for those kind of people.

This chump gets off on reading stuff like that, stop giving him the satisfaction by talking about it.

A writer's worst fear is not being hated, it's not being cared about.
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I can't read the comments on that site...can't imagine what a zero life those people must have to write the same crap over and over on every freaking article. And Fat Pat needs to go...it just shows how dead journalism and newspapers are that he still has a job. Desperate who_res!
 

Find me a Gopher fan who actually values Reusse's opinion on the Pitino hiring, and I'll find you a Gopher fan who isn't quite the fan they claim.
 

I think age is a BIG consideration. It's one of the reasons I was never in favor of a Flip hire. It takes almost unlimited energy to recruit and teach a group of 18 - 21 year olds the game of big time basketball and I wasn't sure Flip had that. From all of the reports there's no question that Rich has that in spades.

Go Gophers!
 


Honestly Reusse should STFU.

He should have done that a long time ago, especially with his coverage on Gopher Basketball. For the last 2-3 years I am convinced Reusse didn't even watch games (or whole games), he beat a dead horse like it was going out of fashion. Writing inane articles that to people who watched the games already knew or didn't make sense, because he didn't know what he was talking about.

Now he gets to play that great role of telling everyone that, yeah they should have fired Tubby and looked for that next "right" hire even if that hire doesn't work out. And sure enough Teagues hires that exact sort of person and he writes a column that completely bashes them (The U). Come on Shaka was ALWAYS a pipe dream. And Flip (my prediction) was always going to be too unaligned (and old) with Teague's values to work out. Pitino is the hire that makes sense with the administration and the release of Tubby. He is young, experienced (for his age), has a ton of upside, and tons of energy. Basically the antithesis of Tubby which I think is what Teague and Ellis were aiming for.

I can't imagine him being any worse than most/especially the end of the Monson era. (I was in attendance when they were shellacked by Clemson and when they lost to Ark. Little Rock(yes they lost to Ark. Little Rock))

I know it is silly to be optimistic as a Minnesota sports fan but this hire has me more optimistic than about 95% of the names that were being tossed around. SO I for one am stoked.

Don't believe Fat Pat.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Reusse checked out the early response to the hiring, and promptly took the opposite viewpoint just to tick people off.

Reusse can be a good writer, and he still turns out a good column every now and then, but it seems like he can't resist being negative - especially when it involves Gopher Sports. I had no doubt that, no matter who was hired, Reusse would criticize the choice.
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I think Pat wants to be known as the first guy who noticed that the Emperor didn't have any clothes, like he did with Brewster. The only way to do that is to get it down in writing. Now, that's if the hire turns out to not work out. If it turns out to be successful, he's on to his next misadventure.
 

Bad Gopher said:
I think Pat wants to be known as the first guy who noticed that the Emperor didn't have any clothes, like he did with Brewster. The only way to do that is to get it down in writing. Now, that's if the hire turns out to not work out. If it turns out to be successful, he's on to his next misadventure.
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Reusse has admitted errors when they are obvious. Kevin Love comes to mind. If Pitino is successful, Patrick will admit it, and Mackey will keep rubbing it in.
 

BleedGopher said:
Holy crap Bad Gopher, I'm going to struggle sleeping after seeing that new avatar.

A relative of yours?

Go Gophers!!
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Thanks for the positive feedback! :)

As I'm sure you know, it's the Balok puppet from the episode "The Corbomite Maneuver." Of course, Balok was played by Clint Howard ("Gentle Ben" and every single Ron Howard movie). Balok reasoned that his appearance wouldn't scare anyone, so he used the puppet to get the attention of aliens he and his ship - the Fesarius - encountered. When he entertains the Enterprise's landing party, he offers them his favorite drink: "This...is Tranya. I hope you relish it as much as I." The punk rock Star Trek tribute band Warp 11 makes reference to "a pony keg of Tranya" in their song "I Make It So."
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
This morbidly obese moron likes to write garbage to generate clicks. There is a contingent of people around the area who aren't Gopher fans and they are the kind of people that like Fat Pat. How much college basketball do you think he's watched?
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Well I enjoy reading and listening to Reusse, though I sure as sh!t don't always agree with him. At the same time I am a big Gopher fan, believe it or not.

Not sure of your age Bob but I'm guessing there's a chance Reusse has watched more college basketball than you and most of the people on GH.

I never understand the personal attacks/name calling on the media.

It really is okay to listen to or read someone with a different point of view.
 

I liked the first sentence of the last paragraph:

"The roster Pitino inherits at Minnesota is good enough to compete for an NCAA bid next season."

It's about time someone in the media pointed that out. Pitino isn't inheriting a dumpster fire. There's a decent chance he can hit the ground running and at least accomplish what we did this past season (NCAA bid and maybe a win).
 

I'm an old guy and I like being around young people. I thought at age 61 Tubby had lost his mojo.
How many times did we see him slump on the bench, looking like he was ready for assistant living.
A 29 year old Bill Mussleman turned this state on it's ear. Hope Rich does the same.
 

ncgo4 said:
I think age is a BIG consideration. It's one of the reasons I was never in favor of a Flip hire. It takes almost unlimited energy to recruit and teach a group of 18 - 21 year olds the game of big time basketball and I wasn't sure Flip had that. From all of the reports there's no question that Rich has that in spades.

Go Gophers!
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Your right. Take a look at the Final Four. Those Head Coaches are a bunch of kids right? :rolleyes:

Badgopher was right. Age can cut both ways.
 

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