Post Week 9 West Standings

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Season is winding down. Here's what is left for each team. Really it's 3 teams that are left unless something completely bizarre happens (there are a few ways Nebraska and Illinois could get all the way back into it I guess in theory, but the permutations are going to make it pretty tough for them to win). Mildly interesting things for Gophers to watch this week with Nebraska and Illinois playing. Losses will in all likelihood formally eliminate them both given they lost to us and we would have at maximum 4 possible losses remaining on the schedule.

1. Minnesota 5-0
PSU, @Iowa, @NW, WI
2t. Wisconsin 3-2
Iowa, @Nebraska, Purdue, @MN
2t. Iowa 3-2
@Wisconsin, Minn, Illinois, @Nebraska
4. Nebraska 2-3
@Purdue, Wisconsin, @MD, Iowa
5. Illinois 2-3
Rutgers, @MiSt, @Iowa, NW
6. Purdue 1-4
Nebraska, @NW, @WI, Indiana
7. NW 0-5
@Ind, vs Purdue, UMass, MN, @Ill
 

So Iowa and Wisconsin play an elimination game next week. Loser is pretty much eliminated from the West title and then its a two team race. Minnesota now is the only team that controls its destiny. Wisconsin or Iowa needs Minnesota to lose to someone else besides them (they will be Nittany Lion fans in 2 weeks).
 

So Iowa and Wisconsin play an elimination game next week. Loser is pretty much eliminated from the West title and then its a two team race. Minnesota now is the only team that controls its destiny. Wisconsin or Iowa needs Minnesota to lose to someone else besides them (they will be Nittany Lion fans in 2 weeks).

Yes.

Regarding the Minnesota-Penn State tilt, and how it will impact the West race: it could be huge.

If the Gophers beat Penn State, I can't help but think we'd pretty much have the West wrapped up, no matter what anyone else does.
 

In theory, the Iowa Wisconsin game doesn’t eliminate the loser, just makes them need to beat Minnesota and have the winner drop an additional game (like against Minnesota)
 

It's entirely ours to lose. Simple as that, at this point.

Iowa will be out when they lose in Madison. I assume Wisconsin will win out, up to the Axe game.


Our season was always going to come down to the last four games. So, buckle up!
 


It's entirely ours to lose. Simple as that, at this point.

Iowa will be out when they lose in Madison. I assume Wisconsin will win out, up to the Axe game.


Our season was always going to come down to the last four games. So, buckle up!

The loser needs Minnesota to lose 3/4
 

Will be interesting to see if a much improved Illinois team can beat Iowa. If Iowa is even in the hunt still on 11/23.
 

Yes.

Regarding the Minnesota-Penn State tilt, and how it will impact the West race: it could be huge.

If the Gophers beat Penn State, I can't help but think we'd pretty much have the West wrapped up, no matter what anyone else does.

Won't be wrapped up yet...if wisc beats Iowa and we lose to Iowa it would still come down to that last weekend
 




Both Iowa and Wisconsin go to Lincoln...maybe they get Martinez and Wan’Dale back and use some of those four games allowed for frosh and look better. Purdue damn near beat Wisconsin last year. Maybe they get Rondale back and look better
 

With our remaining games

Penn State
@ Iowa
@ Northwestern
Wisconsin

If the Gophers sweep PSU, Iowa and NW the Axe game is meaningless and the Gophers win the West!

if we lose any 1 of the 3 games before the Wisconsin game, that last game is most likely for the B1G West. Wisconsin should be favored in all their games, so Wisconsin will still be set up to play for the West.

If we lose 2 of the 3 and Whisky beats Iowa, Then the Axe game determines the B1G west.

If Iowa beats Whisky and we beat Iowa but lose to PSU and NW, then we win the West in a 3 way tie due to our never having been in the B1G Championship game or we beat Whisky and win outright!

So, I think we should just win out! and make the Ohio State game a playoff for the playoff!

Go Gophers!
 

So we can lose our next three and possibly still be playing for the Big Ten West provided WI beats Iowa?
 

So we can lose our next three and possibly still be playing for the Big Ten West provided WI beats Iowa?

It would be a 3-way tie, with Minn, Wisc, and Iowa each having three losses and having beat one of the other two.

Would be an interesting tie-breaker.


Or we can just avoid all that by beating NW.
 



Essentially the Big Ten West playoffs start on November 9th. They won't be officially eliminated but the team that loses the Wisconsin v Iowa game is basically out as they would need a lot of help to win the division at that point.

For us it is fairly simple. Split with Penn State and Northwestern and then beat the winner of Iowa v Wisconsin.

The West is a 3 team race at this point with us in the drivers seat at the moment. Going to be a fun ride to the finish line. As painful as it may be we all need to become big Nebraska fans because if they can spring an upset over Wisconsin or Iowa (play both in Lincoln) it would go a long way to helping us win the West.
 

Essentially the Big Ten West playoffs start on November 9th. They won't be officially eliminated but the team that loses the Wisconsin v Iowa game is basically out as they would need a lot of help to win the division at that point.

For us it is fairly simple. Split with Penn State and Northwestern and then beat the winner of Iowa v Wisconsin.

The West is a 3 team race at this point with us in the drivers seat at the moment. Going to be a fun ride to the finish line. As painful as it may be we all need to become big Nebraska fans because if they can spring an upset over Wisconsin or Iowa (play both in Lincoln) it would go a long way to helping us win the West.

That's what makes this year so great. We don't need Nebraska's help. Or anyone else at this point. We need to take care of our own business and we'll win the west. This is the year that happens. I don't expect to be undefeated at that point, but that's okay. That can be next year.
 

If Iowa beats Whisky and we beat Iowa but lose to PSU and NW, then we win the West in a 3 way tie due to our never having been in the B1G Championship game or we beat Whisky and win outright!

Recency is no longer part of Big Ten tiebreaker formula. here's the Big Ten release from earlier this year:

The Big Ten football championship will be decided by a game played between the two division champions. A team or teams that are not eligible to participate in a postseason football bowl game as a result of NCAA and/or Big Ten sanctions shall not be eligible to participate in the Big Ten Football Championship Game. The winner of the Big Ten Football Championship Game will represent the conference in one of the bowls that comprise the College Football Playoff - the Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, Peach, Rose or Sugar Bowl. If the Big Ten Champion is ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll, the team will play in a semifinal game. Otherwise, the Big Ten Champion will play in the Rose Bowl Game (when not hosting a semifinal) or the Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl.

The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:


If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.

1. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage in games between the tied teams.
(a) Example: East 1 is 2-0 in games between the tied teams with wins over East 2 and 3 - East 1 would be the representative.
2. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage within their division.
3. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.
4. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared based on winning percentage against all common conference opponents.
5. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared based on the best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
(a) Example: East 1 non-divisional opponents are 20-7, East 2 non-divisional opponents are 19-8, East 3 non-divisional opponents are 14-13 – East 1 would be the representative.
6. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared against the highest placed non-divisional teams in their division order of finish (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.
(b) When comparing records against a single team or a group of teams, the record will prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e. 1-0 is better than 0-0, 2-0 is better than 1-0, etc.)
7. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.
8. The representative will be chosen by random draw.

If one or both of the Big Ten division champions is ineligible to play in the Big Ten Championship Game, then the participant(s) in the Big Ten Championship Game shall be determined by the following procedure:

If the ineligible team is tied for the division championship, then the team it tied with shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.
If two or more teams are tied with an ineligible team for the division championship, then the ineligible team is removed and the remaining teams revert to the tie-break procedure.
The division runner-up shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.
If there is a division runner-up tie, then the tied teams shall revert to the tie-break procedure.


If the championship game cannot be played (due to any reason beyond the control of the Big Ten Conference), the two division champions (using divisional tie-breakers as set forth above) shall be declared co-champions and the following procedure will be used to determine the Big Ten Conference representative to the College Football Playoff:


Teams ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll will automatically be placed in the College Football Playoff.
If the two divisional representatives met previously in the season and neither is ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll, the team ranked highest in the final poll shall be the representative to the College Football Playoff, unless the other team is ranked within five or fewer places of the higher ranked team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the two teams shall determine the conference's representative.
If the two divisional representatives did not meet previously during the season, the team ranked highest in the College Football Playoff poll shall be the representative.
If the two teams are tied in the College Football Playoff poll, the team with the best overall Big Ten record shall be the representative.
If the two teams remain tied after d), the team with the best combined record of the tied teams against all common Big Ten opponents each team played that season shall be the representative.
If the two teams remain tied after e), the representative will be the team with the best overall winning percentage.
If the two teams remain tied after f), the representative will be the team furthest removed from College Football Playoff, Bowl Championships Series or Rose Bowl Game participation (as appropriate).
If the two teams remain tied after g), the representative shall be determined by a random draw.

https://bigten.org/news/2011/8/10/Big_Ten_Conference_Football_Divisional_Tiebreaker.aspx
 




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