Police have lead on "umbrella man"

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Oh, so no one actually said it. You made up a ridiculous statement to “point something out” and then side-stepped and avoided my questions about it for a page on here. Sure thing fraud.
That thing I mentioned or suggested before? It kinda pertains in this case as well. I should be charging good money for this kind of advice!
 

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I don't actually believe any of it. Most likely whomever they end up charging is someone they want for another reason but mold into the narrative shoe.
 

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That thing I mentioned or suggested before? It kinda pertains in this case as well. I should be charging good money for this kind of advice!
I really don't get it. Dude rolls in - says one thing he then denies saying and then makes up another thing all together. Gets exposed on both accounts, comes up with some weak excuse, uses a couple 4-letter words to show he is really serious, then leaves again. Scary that these people walk the street; but yes, the joke is on me for even engaging such nonsense.
 

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Sorry boys, I am calling 100% BS on this umbrella man story. First, he was named as a member of the local police department, that was totally false. NOW he is a white supremacist wanting to incite violence, AND he was part of a motorcycle gang, that was involved with the Stillwater Muslim lady, ice cream story. If they know who he is, why don't they just name him and we can all look for him? These motorcycle guys, do not carry umbrellas, in costume. I want the guy to get arrested, but the "facts" around this story are nonsense.
 

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Sorry boys, I am calling 100% BS on this umbrella man story. First, he was named as a member of the local police department, that was totally false. NOW he is a white supremacist wanting to incite violence, AND he was part of a motorcycle gang, that was involved with the Stillwater Muslim lady, ice cream story. If they know who he is, why don't they just name him and we can all look for him? These motorcycle guys, do not carry umbrellas, in costume. I want the guy to get arrested, but the "facts" around this story are nonsense.
Might have been a lot harder riding up on a Harley, fully patched with Angel colors. I'm not following your logic here. This still could be nonsense, but these guys aren't doing all their underground enterprises in uniform--the riding and the colors are the cover.
 





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WS. Antifa. Police Officer. So many theories - can we all just agree he was from out of town. For sure.
 



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Might have been a lot harder riding up on a Harley, fully patched with Angel colors. I'm not following your logic here. This still could be nonsense, but these guys aren't doing all their underground enterprises in uniform--the riding and the colors are the cover.
Motorcycle gangs MO is not doing this kind of thing.
 


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Sorry boys, I am calling 100% BS on this umbrella man story. First, he was named as a member of the local police department, that was totally false. NOW he is a white supremacist wanting to incite violence, AND he was part of a motorcycle gang, that was involved with the Stillwater Muslim lady, ice cream story. If they know who he is, why don't they just name him and we can all look for him? These motorcycle guys, do not carry umbrellas, in costume. I want the guy to get arrested, but the "facts" around this story are nonsense.

Who was it that started the "story" that he's a member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang? Do you know who it was that came up with this "story", LB?

You really, really REALLY don't want him to turn out to be a white supremacist; that much is clear. I can't help but wonder... why? Why is that important to you?
 

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Who was it that started the "story" that he's a member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang? Do you know who it was that came up with this "story", LB?

You really, really REALLY don't want him to turn out to be a white supremacist; that much is clear. I can't help but wonder... why? Why is that important to you?
This story makes no sense to me. First he was a cop, now he is a white supremacist with a black friend, you can't make it up. I do not care who he is, I want him and others arrested, and jailed for a long time.
 



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This story makes no sense to me. First he was a cop, now he is a white supremacist with a black friend, you can't make it up. I do not care who he is, I want him and others arrested, and jailed for a long time.

I'll see if I can give you some info on these "stories".

— The rumor that Umbrella Man was a St. Paul cop was started by that particular cop's ex-wife, who thought she recognized him from the video.

— The news story the media just broke recently, that Umbrella Man is a member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang, comes from police investigators. The police would not likely give the press this information if they weren't pretty sure it was true.

Hope that helps.
 

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I'll see if I can give you some info on these "stories".

— The rumor that Umbrella Man was a St. Paul cop was started by that particular cop's ex-wife, who thought she recognized him from the video.

— The news story the media just broke recently, that Umbrella Man is a member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang, comes from police investigators. The police would not likely give the press this information if they weren't pretty sure it was true.

Hope that helps.
It still does not explain why this white supremacist was getting into a car with his black friend. :unsure:
 

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It still does not explain why this white supremacist was getting into a car with his black friend. :unsure:
Nor why if the cops are “pretty sure” why they are telling the media instead of charging the guy?
 

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Wasn’t “umbrella man” also seen on the grassy knoll?
 

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Nor why if the cops are “pretty sure” why they are telling the media instead of charging the guy?
Correct. I am pro-police, but there are countless examples of the police feeding the media some
mis-information, to advance their cases against suspects.
 

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I'll see if I can give you some info on these "stories".

— The rumor that Umbrella Man was a St. Paul cop was started by that particular cop's ex-wife, who thought she recognized him from the video.

— The news story the media just broke recently, that Umbrella Man is a member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang, comes from police investigators. The police would not likely give the press this information if they weren't pretty sure it was true.

Hope that helps.

This news came from the police investigators? Or the city staff that the city council voted to replace the police department spokesperson with?
 

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Nah. History shows Nazi Socialists, Bolshevik Socialists and Chinese Socialists all do the same thing. Tell big lies and keep telling the lies until you can convince the proletariat that they are actually truths.
 

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I'll see if I can give you some info on these "stories".

— The rumor that Umbrella Man was a St. Paul cop was started by that particular cop's ex-wife, who thought she recognized him from the video.

— The news story the media just broke recently, that Umbrella Man is a member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang, comes from police investigators. The police would not likely give the press this information if they weren't pretty sure it was true.

Hope that helps.
Actually, this latest theory came from an anonymous tip. Probably from Jammer.
 


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Wowza. The Fellas — and their little buddy — are working really, really hard to find a way to spin this.

"Please don't let him be a white supremacist... Please, no!"

We'll soon see how it all turns out.
 

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Wowza. The Fellas — and their little buddy — are working really, really hard to find a way to spin this.

"Please don't let him be a white supremacist... Please, no!"

We'll soon see how it all turns out.
You continue to be a complete and total fraud. No one really cares if he is or isn’t a WS except you. A story is leaked to the press, no names, no arrests, no charges, and you have already decided it’s true. Skip the trial too Murray? God forbid we discuss and let it play out.
 

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He is incapable of recognizing the most obvious sarcasm, except when done by the fellas.
I bet your wife doesn’t even laugh
Wowza. The Fellas — and their little buddy — are working really, really hard to find a way to spin this.

"Please don't let him be a white supremacist... Please, no!"

We'll soon see how it all turns out.
You got us Murray! We’re outed once and for all. Every moderate and conservative is a closet white supremacist. There is no way we’re going to let this brother of ours go down, he was doing just what we asked him to do that day. By starting the riots, our KKK leader Trump will see his popularity soar and will be assured of a second term. The mass destruction will help our cause. This is why the white supremacists started this, right Murray?
 

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It still does not explain why this white supremacist was getting into a car with his black friend. :unsure:

Never saw that video. I've seen many different shots and videos of them walking near each other which could be conspicuous without hearing their conversation, but today is the first time ive ever heard of them getting into the same car. It's been said here twice on Gopher Hole. (Maybe you both times?)

Can anyone reproduce that video?
 

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Never saw that video. I've seen many different shots and videos of them walking near each other which could be conspicuous without hearing their conversation, but today is the first time ive ever heard of them getting into the same car. It's been said here twice on Gopher Hole. (Maybe you both times?)

Can anyone reproduce that video?
We don’t need to hear their conversation, we know he was a WS because OUR team wouldn’t riot and vandalize unless the enemy started it. And rioting and vandalism is totally fine if we do it. But if it was started by the other team it just proves how awful they are.
 

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We don’t need to hear their conversation, we know he was a WS because OUR team wouldn’t riot and vandalize unless the enemy started it. And rioting and vandalism is totally fine if we do it. But if it was started by the other team it just proves how awful they are.

I have no opinion on who is or is not involved, it's a mess. All I want to know, is if there actually exists a copy of the video which has been claimed to show them both getting into a car.

If it indeed exists, kinda impossible to say they're not co-conspirators.

If that video doesn't exist, people need to stop lying and claiming that it does.
 

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I have no opinion on who is or is not involved, it's a mess. All I want to know, is if there actually exists a copy of the video which has been claimed to show them both getting into a car.

If it indeed exists, kinda impossible to say they're not co-conspirators.

If that video doesn't exist, people need to stop lying and claiming that it does.
There are many videos and photos of those two guys together, and a lot of theories on their involvement. It was reported that they left together. Not sure that even a video would convince you otherwise.
 

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There are many videos and photos of those two guys together, and a lot of theories on their involvement. It was reported that they left together. Not sure that even a video would convince you otherwise.

It would, which is why i'm asking for it. But there isn't any footage of them getting into a car together, because it doesn't exist. I don't care what opinions or speculations people have on what actually happened, that's fine, everyone is entitled - but none of us gets to make up events that never took place.
 




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