Oregon on 3 year probation

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The NCAA has placed Oregon's football program on probation for three years and taken away a scholarship over that same span, through June 2016, for recruiting violations under previous coach Chip Kelly.

Consequences On Tap For Oregon
The NCAA has been looking into Oregon's recruiting practices since questions arose over a 2010 payment of $25,000 to a recruiting service. The penalties, announced Wednesday:

• Public reprimand and censure.
• Three years of probation from June 26, 2013 through June 25, 2016.
• An 18-month show cause order for the former head coach.
• A one-year show-cause order for the former assistant director of operations.
• A reduction of initial football scholarships by one from the maximum allowed (25) during the 2012-13 and 2013-14 academic years (imposed by the university).
• A reduction of total football scholarships by one from the maximum allowed (85) during the 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16 academic years (imposed by the university).
• A reduction of official paid football visits to from 56 to 37 for the 2012-13, 2013-14 and 2014-15 academic years.
• A reduction of permissible football evaluation days from 42 to 36 in the fall of 2013, 2014 and 2015 and permissible football evaluation days from 168 to 144 in the spring of 2014, 2015 and 2016.
• A ban on the subscription to recruiting services during the probation period.
• A disassociation of the recruiting service provider. Details of the disassociation are included in the public report (imposed by the university).

The NCAA's Division I Infractions Committee released a report on Wednesday that found Kelly and the university failed to monitor the program.

The NCAA has been looking into Oregon's recruiting practices since questions arose over a 2010 payment of $25,000 to Willie Lyles and his Houston-based recruiting service, Complete Scouting Services. Lyles had a connection with an Oregon recruit.

The NCAA also reduced Oregon's official paid visits from 56 to 37 for the next three academic years, reduced its evaluation days for each of the next three seasons and banned the program from using recruiting services during the probation period.

It also placed an 18-month show-cause order for Kelly, which would require schools wishing to hire him to appear before the infractions committee to determine if the school should be subject to the show-cause procedures. Kelly left Oregon this year to become the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

The infractions committee found that Lyles provided cash and free lodging to a prospect, and engaged in impermissible calls and off-campus contact with prospects, their families and high school coaches.

It also said the football program allowed staff members to engage in recruiting activity, exceeding coaching limits.

The NCAA said Kelly was unaware of Lyles' involvement in recruiting, but the committee noted it is the head coach's responsibility to know the rules and ensure staff and coaches comply with them.

Under Kelly, the Ducks appeared in four straight BCS bowl games -- including a bid for the national championship against Auburn in 2011. Oregon finished 12-1 last season, capped by a victory over Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl.

He was replaced by offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich, who will make his debut as head coach on Aug. 31.

Oregon was previously penalized by the NCAA in 2004 for a major violation involving the improper recruitment of a junior college player by an assistant coach. The university was put on probation for two years and the unidentified assistant coach was suspended without pay for a week and restricted from some recruiting activities.

The Ducks remained eligible for postseason play and did not lose any scholarships because of that violation, which occurred in 2003.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...on-ducks-put-probation-ncaa-loses-scholarship
 

Chip Kelly nicely follows in the footsteps of Pete "Who, Me?" Carroll. Get out at just the right time, just before the posse arrives in town.
 



What a joke, players trading material worth a hell of a lot less than the money Oregon spent gets OSU a bowl ban while Nike/Oregon get off with nearly nothing.
 


Chip Kelly nicely follows in the footsteps of Pete "Who, Me?" Carroll. Get out at just the right time, just before the posse arrives in town.

Kinda makes me happy to have Coach Kill. It makes me sick that these coaches can leave their programs and not have any punishment themselves, they are the ones that commit the infractions and yet they bail on their team as soon as they come to light

Also, anybody think that this is the reason that Chip Kelly left
 


I believe that LaMichael James was the player that Oregon paid $25,000 to the recruiting service for. James was reported to be all set to sign with Minnesota until the money began changing hands.
 

I believe that LaMichael James was the player that Oregon paid $25,000 to the recruiting service for. James was reported to be all set to sign with Minnesota until the money began changing hands.

Brew got outbid...
 



What a joke, players trading material worth a hell of a lot less than the money Oregon spent gets OSU a bowl ban while Nike/Oregon get off with nearly nothing.

That would be punishing fans of the game to watch the sweet high octane offense with awesome uni's.
 

What a joke, players trading material worth a hell of a lot less than the money Oregon spent gets OSU a bowl ban while Nike/Oregon get off with nearly nothing.

Wasn't OSU's bowl ban self-imposed? But I agree with you, it's basically a slap on the wrist for Oregon as you won't really see this affecting them at all.
 


They very much could have put the ban on themselves, however I highly doubt that a university would do that to themselves. They make way to much money in the post-season to give that up by choice.
 



They very much could have put the ban on themselves, however I highly doubt that a university would do that to themselves. They make way to much money in the post-season to give that up by choice.

I sometimes wonder if that is true. A couple of years ago, the AD at Michigan stated that they did not have a bowl game that year, and because of that they made money. :confused:
 

It took 3 years to give this slap on the wrist? Get your sh!t together NCAA.
 

Instead of the 18-month ban thing for Kelly (which does nothing because he will be in the NFL the whole time), there should be some kind of punishment for him whenever he decides to coach in college again. Any school can sign him to be their next head coach whenever they want, they'll just have one or two less scholarships that first year or something like that.
 

I'm fairly certain the NCAA gave them the ban, unless I misread the article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/sports/ncaa-hands-ohio-state-one-year-bowl-ban.html?_r=0

I may have been thinking of their other self-imposed sanctions and just grouped the bowl ban in there as well, thanks for clarifying.

Also, the only way I could see a team self-imposing a bowl ban is if it would in turn make the NCAA more lenient in other areas (loss of scholarships, recruiting visits, etc.), but money rules all so I'm not sure.
 

I sometimes wonder if that is true. A couple of years ago, the AD at Michigan stated that they did not have a bowl game that year, and because of that they made money. :confused:

That is very possible. I believe in the Big Ten bowl participation revenues are pooled and then shared across the league. If a team does participate in a bowl game they are given a spending allowance to cover their expenditures. If they exceed that allowance, the school has to make up the difference. That is probably why the Michigan AD said "because of that they made money."
 

A slap on the wrist? This doesn't even come close to a slap on the wrist. It's more akin to a naughty toddler receiving only one cookie after dinner instead of two. Not sure if this is true or not, but one of the talking heads at ESPN said that an NCAA rep tried to convince the media via teleconference that this was indeed a stiff penalty. What a joke.

The next time an NCAA president or any other representative of that bunch of yahoos in Indianapolis speaks about curbing the dirtiness of big-time collegiate athletics, I suggest people either 1. Don't listen, or 2. Assume the person is lying.
 

I believe that LaMichael James was the player that Oregon paid $25,000 to the recruiting service for. James was reported to be all set to sign with Minnesota until the money began changing hands.

I though it was Josh Huff, who initially committed to us and switched to Oregon.

And I thought the payment thing was Lache Seastrunk.

I do remember LaMichael James visiting here, and then getting a late visit/offer from Oregon. What might have been...
 

Will Lyles was the recruiting service paid $25,000 by Oregon for outdated recruiting information. He also encouraged both LaMichael James and Lache Seastrunk to sign with them. NCAA rules regulate recruiting services to have no more contact than necessary with recruits to do their jobs, but Lyles had befriended both players and their families, and seemingly took over the traditional mentor role that the high school coaches usually provide.
 

A slap on the wrist? This doesn't even come close to a slap on the wrist. It's more akin to a naughty toddler receiving only one cookie after dinner instead of two. Not sure if this is true or not, but one of the talking heads at ESPN said that an NCAA rep tried to convince the media via teleconference that this was indeed a stiff penalty. What a joke.

The next time an NCAA president or any other representative of that bunch of yahoos in Indianapolis speaks about curbing the dirtiness of big-time collegiate athletics, I suggest people either 1. Don't listen, or 2. Assume the person is lying.

Well said.
 




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