Oregon Football OFFICIALLY in hot water

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Now we've got a Minnesota angle to it. DAMMMN YOUU DUCKSS
 

I'm an ex-college football player and super-fan of college football in general and this is the first time I've heard of schools PAYING individual people in other states for "recruiting services." Is this a newer practice or am I just that naive? The whole idea of it just reeks of shadyness.
 

DOC said:
ESPN provides more depth, naming another prized prosepect: 2010 recruit Lache Seastrunk, as well as last years HEISMAN FINALIST LaMichael James.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6179423
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I remember following the Gophers recruitment of LaMichael James very closely and he was all but signed by the U before he was swayed to Oregon. I remember there was a new story every day that he had committed to Minnesota, was going to be a silent verbal, blah blah blah. I was completely stunned when he picked Oregon.
 


Handsome Pete said:
I remember following the Gophers recruitment of LaMichael James very closely and he was all but signed by the U before he was swayed to Oregon. I remember there was a new story every day that he had committed to Minnesota, was going to be a silent verbal, blah blah blah. I was completely stunned when he picked Oregon.
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Lets just cross our fingers and hope that our own recruiting savant wasn't playing the same games that Oregon was playing with the so called "street agents."
 

Handsome Pete said:
I remember following the Gophers recruitment of LaMichael James very closely and he was all but signed by the U before he was swayed to Oregon. I remember there was a new story every day that he had committed to Minnesota, was going to be a silent verbal, blah blah blah. I was completely stunned when he picked Oregon.
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I hate when we get outbid for a player's services...

Personally I think it was over when he heard Brewster's delusions...
 

Ron Johnson Super Fan said:
Lets just cross our fingers and hope that our own recruiting savant wasn't playing the same games that Oregon was playing with the so called "street agents."
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Well we did land 4 Skyline players that year...

Makes me wonder about Josh Huff as well...
 

Handsome Pete said:
Well we did land 4 Skyline players that year...

Makes me wonder about Josh Huff as well...
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The connections make me very, very nervous, especially given Brew's ties to Texas recruiting. He knows how the game is played down there. Not saying that I think anything unseemly happened but it does makes me nervous.
 



You certainly look suspicious. But I have a sneaky hunch, you could shine a similar light on most of the program's in the country. Everyone's got a little bit of dirt on them.
 

Ron Johnson Super Fan said:
The connections make me very, very nervous, especially given Brew's ties to Texas recruiting. He knows how the game is played down there. Not saying that I think anything unseemly happened but it does makes me nervous.
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I have no suspicions at all about our recruiting. The Skyline 4 came in in dribs and drabs across the entire recruiting season. They were heavy MN leans from the start and there was nothing "funny" at all about their recruitment that I can remember. My point in posting about James is that we may have gotten jobbed by cheating, not to suggest we were also cheating. I personally don't think Brew ever went there in the least.
 

Handsome Pete said:
I have no suspicions at all about our recruiting. The Skyline 4 came in in dribs and drabs across the entire recruiting season. They were heavy MN leans from the start and there was nothing "funny" at all about their recruitment that I can remember. My point in posting about James is that we may have gotten jobbed by cheating, not to suggest we were also cheating. I personally don't think Brew ever went there in the least.
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I hope you are correct. I obviously have no idea one way or the other. I just don't like seeing all of the connections to guys that we were in on.
 

I'll never say it could not have happened, but there is no way Brewster would have gotten those bills by Maturi without totally fabricating what they were for. Maturi may have faults, but he is consistently clean.
 



Handsome Pete said:
The Skyline 4 came in in dribs and drabs across the entire recruiting season. They were heavy MN leans from the start and there was nothing "funny" at all about their recruitment that I can remember.
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I agree that there was never anything "funny" about their recruitment. But, I also don't think it is accurate to say that all four were coming "in dribs and drabs" across the entire recruiting season: McKnight, Stoudermire and Reeves all committed on the same week in Nov. 2007 (Stoudermire and Reeves on the same day, McKnight six days later).

I also don't think it is accurate to say that all four were heavy MN leans from the start: Cooper de-committed from Texas Tech on signing day in February to sign with us.
 

tjgopher said:
I agree that there was never anything "funny" about their recruitment. But, I also don't think it is accurate to say that all four were coming "in dribs and drabs" across the entire recruiting season: McKnight, Stoudermire and Reeves all committed on the same week in Nov. 2007 (Stoudermire and Reeves on the same day, McKnight six days later).

I also don't think it is accurate to say that all four were heavy MN leans from the start: Cooper de-committed from Texas Tech on signing day in February to sign with us.
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I fail to understand the point of your annoying nitpicking. I was describing the process by which the Skyline 4 were recruited and committed to the U and you essentially say I was completely right. The committed at 3 different points across the recruiting season, including early on in November. Cooper committed to Texas Tech at one point late in the process but was close to Minnesota all year and eventually reversed at the end to follow through on it. I was describing the process to try to flesh out any indicia of wrongdoing and concluded none existed. Is this the way you like to fill up message threads?
 

Good old capitalism is alive and well in college football, Gordon Gecko where are you.

Makes you wonder what booster was involved in Devoe Joseph transfering.
 

That would be rich, wouldn't it?

There is nothing to imply that Brewster had anything to do with all of this, but wouldn't that just be a kick in the groin if somehow the U of M were implicated? I mean, if you're gonna cheat, make it worthwhile! One would think that if cheating was involved, the Gophers wouldn't lose to South Dakota! Kill 'em.
 

Handsome Pete said:
I fail to understand the point of your annoying nitpicking. I was describing the process by which the Skyline 4 were recruited and committed to the U and you essentially say I was completely right. The committed at 3 different points across the recruiting season, including early on in November. Cooper committed to Texas Tech at one point late in the process but was close to Minnesota all year and eventually reversed at the end to follow through on it. I was describing the process to try to flesh out any indicia of wrongdoing and concluded none existed. Is this the way you like to fill up message threads?
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Hey, if you consider 75% of the Skyline 4 committing within a 6-day window of a 12-month recruiting cycle to be spread out over the entire recruiting process, fine by me. As I said, I wouldn't call that coming in dribs and drabs, I'd call that coming mostly at once. No biggie.
 



The Skyline 4 was originally thought of as Cooper, Reeves, some former basketball player offered to appease the others, and a former quarterback with scat back skills. The 4 were not highly recruited. Two were. I don't think we had to buy off anyone for McKnight.
 

A program that built itself up by selling its soul for the personal wealth of one booster got caught throwing money around? I'm shocked. I'll be similarly shocked when Oklahoma State runs into th same issue.
 

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