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Nw up by 3 with 4:07 left....if they pull this off NW gets their first ncaa nod ever over us (at this juncture at least)
 

They will get in, but so will we. If we just win the games we are suppose to win we will have 22 wins. That's plenty to get into the tourney. We already got #10 Butler and OSU on the resume.
 

No matter how hard the refs try to overlook purdue's "tough defense" NU is not letting them decide the game.
 


Wow! Thx for the post, was watching football and not this game. Saw the post and caught the end. Beat Indiana!
 




GopherNation said:
They will get in, but so will we. If we just win the games we are suppose to win we will have 22 wins. That's plenty to get into the tourney. We already got #10 Butler and OSU on the resume.
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Yes, that Butler win is looking better every week. Illinois lost, hopefully Wisconsin wins... TA&M almost helped us out a bit with a win over Texas. More importantly Gophers take care of their own games and we wouldn't have to root for and against other teams on this years schedule.
 

We are in the tourney, no doubt about it. Think bigger. The Gophs have a legitimate shot to win the whole BigTen. They have the most favorable schedule to finish out the season. If they win the games they are suppose to win, and show up at home, a top 2 finish should be in order. Keep in mind they have already played their two toughest away games (Pur, MSU).

Big Home Games coming up
Michigan State
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
 



Wow. I swear when I seen Purdue thrash W.V. I thought they would cruise through the Big Ten with three, maybe four losses. Here they have three after 5 games.
 

I have no idea what is wrong with this team right now. They can't shot the three. I think most of it is that Bo laid down a great game plan to beat Purdue and it has been improved upon by Matta and Carmody. Basically its the drill drive then pack it in on a zone on the defensive end and make them shot the three. The bench as completely dissapeared. It has a total of 15 points since in the 3 loses.

Otherwise this was one of the poorest called games I have ever seen. And that is saying something for B10 ref's.
 

mnboiler said:
I have no idea what is wrong with this team right now. They can't shot the three. I think most of it is that Bo laid down a great game plan to beat Purdue and it has been improved upon by Matta and Carmody. Basically its the drill drive then pack it in on a zone on the defensive end and make them shot the three. The bench as completely dissapeared. It has a total of 15 points since in the 3 loses.

Otherwise this was one of the poorest called games I have ever seen. And that is saying something for B10 ref's.
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No point guard. Minnesota exposed how much ball pressure will kill your team.
 

gopherphan said:
Nw up by 3 with 4:07 left....if they pull this off NW gets their first ncaa nod ever over us (at this juncture at least)
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Well, I guess we should just give up on the season. Forget those 13 other conference games for us, Northwestern gets the nod regardless.
 



Purdue will be terrible after next year barring some major recruits coming in.

This guy Smith lost the game for them tonight. He inexplicably (no screen or anything) leaves Drew Crawford open for 3 in a 1 pt game with under 2 min left, and Crawford buries it. On the next possession PU comes down and Smith jacks an ill-advised 3 that was way off the mark. Then NW brings it down and Smith gets abused by Crawford in a 1-1 situation for a basket and the foul. From there NW hit the free throws and won the game.

PU's bench is very thin, and the young players they have are not very good. I'd be worried about the future if I were a Purdue fan.
 

Northwestern's rpi is 70 right now....ours is 44. As of right now we would get in instead of them and I'm pretty sure at the end of the year we will get in. I'm not sure about them, last year they also beat Mich St on the road and still weren't seriously considered by the selection committee. The refs tonight were terrible too, I don't know if someone's mentioned that already. Seems like big ten refs are always biased toward the home team.
 

Seems like big ten refs are always biased toward the home team.
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For as hard as we got boned at Mich St and Purdue I certainly hope so. Payback is a bitch.
 

Otherwise, I don't think this was a big surprise considering how Northwestern played Purdue last year.
 

I think without Coble maybe it was a bit of a surprise but remember Northwestern blew like a 14 or 16 point last year with Purdue in one game and beat them the other. I'd like to know what the deal is with Purdue's rebounding. I'd have to check again but I thought I heard Northwestern pretty much dominated them on the boards.
 

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I'd like to know what the deal is with Purdue's rebounding. I'd have to check again but I thought I heard Northwestern pretty much dominated them on the boards.[/QUOTE

Northwestern just smashed Purdue on the boards, 42 to 23. Shurna, Thompson and Nash logged serious minutes for Northwestern, 38,39,38.
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There is no way Purdue can be ranked after a 3 game skid to lower ranked wisconsin and two unranked teams. If they are still in the top 25, polls mean nothing anymore.
 

GopherNation said:
We are in the tourney, no doubt about it. Think bigger. The Gophs have a legitimate shot to win the whole BigTen. They have the most favorable schedule to finish out the season. If they win the games they are suppose to win, and show up at home, a top 2 finish should be in order. Keep in mind they have already played their two toughest away games (Pur, MSU).

Big Home Games coming up
Michigan State
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
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I think a Big Ten championship will be tough, but people seem not to recognize that our two toughest games of the conference schedule are behind us. The team is also clicking pretty well right now and was not intimidated at either Purdue or MSU. I am optimistic we can beat both of those teams at home and finish top 3 in the conference. Do that and the rough stretch of the non-conference schedule is a distant memory.
 

Polls have never meant anything in basketball. So who cares? It's just for fun.
 

GopherGold said:
There is no way Purdue can be ranked after a 3 game skid to lower ranked wisconsin and two unranked teams. If they are still in the top 25, polls mean nothing anymore.
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Are you serious? Purdue is clearly not a top ten team, but you want to knock them out of the top 25? They're still much better than teams like GT, Clemson, Temple, Florida State, etc.

That said, Purdue is bad. The bench is absolutely appalling. Defense has been average at best lately. JJ has absolutely disappeared in the last two weeks. The rebounding against unathletic northfreakingwestern made me sick.
 

rcpratt said:
Are you serious? Purdue is clearly not a top ten team, but you want to knock them out of the top 25? They're still much better than teams like GT, Clemson, Temple, Florida State, etc.

That said, Purdue is bad. The bench is absolutely appalling. Defense has been average at best lately. JJ has absolutely disappeared in the last two weeks. The rebounding against unathletic northfreakingwestern made me sick.
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Was it you or MNBoiler who had the ridiculous comment that Minnesota was not in the same universe as Purdue - that after the Minn/Purdue game? Obviously, whichever of you it was, you were WAY off. Gotta love both of you guys...just a week and a half ago Purdue was Godlike, now they are "bad". Lol gotta love the bandwagon jumpers. Many of the rest of us could see Purdue through the unbiased eye - a very good team (and they still are), who were not anywhere near 19 points better than Minnesota.

Purdue is absolutely KILLING the Gophers. First they "beat" the Gophers (as if there was ever a chance with Hightower there), then they lose 3 games to teams that the Gophers needed Purdue to beat. Nice.

By the way, indeed I watched the games at Wisconsin (was surprised by only a slight officiating bias toward Wisconsin, perhaps because Purdue was at that time untainted), and at Northwestern - the officiating at Northwestern was terrible, and definitely helped cause Purdue's loss there. Ironically, but not surprisingly, I see MNBoiler bitching about the officiating in this game in his comment above (rightly so), but then being a two-faced loser and condemning me for doing the same about both the Minn. @Purdue and @Indiana games, which, frankly, were both horrid jobs that simply gave the game to the home team (regardless of how Minnesota actually played - they were fairly good against Purdue, poor against Indiana). Hypocritical, much?

There is a lot to be said about the horrible home/away officiating disparity in college basketball, exemplified best for decades in the Big Ten. The officials who did the Minnesota/Indiana game Sunday, for example, average a +7 to +9 home team bias for their careers, and if you look at this year's results, some of them are in double digits for home biases. Is this fair? Is it justified? I suppose if the home team lost more often, less fans would show up to basketball games - is that the deal here, $$$$$$$$$? Luck, and a near-perfect game are what it takes to win a road game in Big Ten basketball, because "fairness" certainly does not exist.
 

cncmin said:
Was it you or MNBoiler who had the ridiculous comment that Minnesota was not in the same universe as Purdue - that after the Minn/Purdue game? Obviously, whichever of you it was, you were WAY off. Gotta love both of you guys...just a week and a half ago Purdue was Godlike, now they are "bad". Lol gotta love the bandwagon jumpers. Many of the rest of us could see Purdue through the unbiased eye - a very good team (and they still are), who were not anywhere near 19 points better than Minnesota.

Purdue is absolutely KILLING the Gophers. First they "beat" the Gophers (as if there was ever a chance with Hightower there), then they lose 3 games to teams that the Gophers needed Purdue to beat. Nice.

By the way, indeed I watched the games at Wisconsin (was surprised by only a slight officiating bias toward Wisconsin, perhaps because Purdue was at that time untainted), and at Northwestern - the officiating at Northwestern was terrible, and definitely helped cause Purdue's loss there. Ironically, but not surprisingly, I see MNBoiler bitching about the officiating in this game in his comment above (rightly so), but then being a two-faced loser and condemning me for doing the same about both the Minn. @Purdue and @Indiana games, which, frankly, were both horrid jobs that simply gave the game to the home team (regardless of how Minnesota actually played - they were fairly good against Purdue, poor against Indiana). Hypocritical, much?

There is a lot to be said about the horrible home/away officiating disparity in college basketball, exemplified best for decades in the Big Ten. The officials who did the Minnesota/Indiana game Sunday, for example, average a +7 to +9 home team bias for their careers, and if you look at this year's results, some of them are in double digits for home biases. Is this fair? Is it justified? I suppose if the home team lost more often, less fans would show up to basketball games - is that the deal here, $$$$$$$$$? Luck, and a near-perfect game are what it takes to win a road game in Big Ten basketball, because "fairness" certainly does not exist.
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I said none of those things. I never called Purdue anything resembling "godlike", and realizing that they are bad does not make me a bandwagon jumper. I think you're a tad confused.
 

Sorry rcpratt, but I don't remember saying anything like that. Does Minnesota belong in the gym with Purdue, yes, but Purdue is a better team. If Purdue plays like they can I wouldn't be suprised if Purdue is 10+ points better than the Gophers. If you don't believe me ask West Virginia fans.

Most B10 officals are terrible, mostly because of lack of consistancy. NW was a prime example of that-it was one worst called games I've watched. I will admit that last night the ref's could have been better. Purdue got a few calls they shouldn't have so did the Illini. I think the Boilers got a few more than the Illini. And to be honest I think there would be something wrong with the refs if they home team doesn't get a few calls. Thats simply they way it works-if you expect to walk into any other teams arena and gets the calls you are in need of a reality check.

I far as I know no Purdue fans are overly pissed off about losing in Wisconsin. Bo is what 160-10 all time there in B10 season. And Purdue is lucky enough to have 2 of those wins(the only other team is Ill. I believe from the National Runner-Up teams from a few years back). Losing at home to OSU was a rough simple because Purdue was up 10 with about 4 left and they simply blew the game. And losing at NW simply sucks.

I don't think any real fans jumped off the bandwagon-I just think expecations were adjusted from fans. Did some of the national media jump off the Purdue bandwagon, ya they did, and thats fine and to say it simply they should have jumped off. When you lose 3 straight games any one who isn't a diehard would jump off.
 

I wasn't trying to accuse you by saying that it wasn't me that said it. I think it was the guy who (correctly) predicted an 18-point win that said the Gophers don't belong in the same gym as the Boilers.
 

People on this board are swayed way too easily by each game. NW happens to beat a Purdue team that is slipping by the day and now that makes them a tournament team at 2-4 in the BT over MN? I'm not saying that we've been better than them up until this point, but these matter-of-fact statements about who gets in and who gets out on this board are getting ridiculous. I don't usually have a problem with predictions for who makes the tournament, but comments like these are getting old pretty fast. It is way too early in the conference season and there are way too many upsets in the BT for comments like these. Sorry to be so harsh, but I've reached my boiling point on this stuff.

gopherphan said:
Nw up by 3 with 4:07 left....if they pull this off NW gets their first ncaa nod ever over us (at this juncture at least)
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u629 the reason Purdue makes the tourney before the Gophers is because they have two top tier non-conference wins. Tennessee and West Virginia are better than any of the Gophers.
 

Oh I was referring to NW making it over us. I really don't see NW making the tournament. I would bet my car on Purdue making the tournament. I still think they finish 2nd in the BT.

mnboiler said:
u629 the reason Purdue makes the tourney before the Gophers is because they have two top tier non-conference wins. Tennessee and West Virginia are better than any of the Gophers.
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