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over the past 40 years: 53 W/91 L (37% Ws).

Given Brew's two-year record of 0-7 for the month of November, I got curious about the Gs results for Novembers over the past 40 years. Not pretty as detailed above. Only 8 winning Novembers in that 40 year span.

Why? My take: as the season wears on and the regular schedule increased from 10 games in 1968 to 12 in 2002, poor depth may have become a huge factor in grinding down the BT's "lower tier" programs such as Minny which are very dependent on a few key players (eg, most recently Decker for the Gs) and these teams are highly vulnerable to late season injuries. Also, the talent/player development mismatch plays a key role here as well.

After looking at these results, I have a new appreciation for Brew's view in stressing the importance of depth in the 2-deep, the red-shirt program and the key importance of recruiting the best talent wherever he can find them. Of course, the recruiting aspect has been greatly boosted by the U/State providing the team top-notch facilities attractive to prospects both in-state and across the country.

Turning around and rebuilding a program with such a historically weak performance during the last half of the season will take considerably longer than many on this board anticipate since it takes a good deal of time and player development to get enough of the right personnel in the pipeline. Brew's boss Joel M knows all this and is likely to cut him a lot more slack than impatient GHers IMHO.
 


over the past 40 years: 53 W/91 L (37% Ws).

Given Brew's two-year record of 0-7 for the month of November, I got curious about the Gs results for Novembers over the past 40 years. Not pretty as detailed above. Only 8 winning Novembers in that 40 year span.

Why? My take: as the season wears on and the regular schedule increased from 10 games in 1968 to 12 in 2002, poor depth may have become a huge factor in grinding down the BT's "lower tier" programs such as Minny which are very dependent on a few key players (eg, most recently Decker for the Gs) and these teams are highly vulnerable to late season injuries. Also, the talent/player development mismatch plays a key role here as well.

After looking at these results, I have a new appreciation for Brew's view in stressing the importance of depth in the 2-deep, the red-shirt program and the key importance of recruiting the best talent wherever he can find them. Of course, the recruiting aspect has been greatly boosted by the U/State providing the team top-notch facilities attractive to prospects both in-state and across the country.

Turning around and rebuilding a program with such a historically weak performance during the last half of the season will take considerably longer than many on this board anticipate since it takes a good deal of time and player development to get enough of the right personnel in the pipeline. Brew's boss Joel M knows all this and is likely to cut him a lot more slack than impatient GHers IMHO.

My sources say otherwise.......
 

Geez, I hope the noose isn't tightening on Brewster already. When he was hired I had hoped for a big name hire so I wasn't too optimistic. He's gradually winning me over now though with his recruiting. Unfortunately the mark of a good/great program is not how many 4 or 3 stars you bring in, it's how many wins you tack up on the board. W's are sadly lacking at this point but I'm not sure I want to see another coaching change resulting in another 3 or 4 year transition period. A huge name hire could salve the wounds but change for the sake of change is not the direction to go.
 




Geez, I hope the noose isn't tightening on Brewster already. When he was hired I had hoped for a big name hire so I wasn't too optimistic. He's gradually winning me over now though with his recruiting. Unfortunately the mark of a good/great program is not how many 4 or 3 stars you bring in, it's how many wins you tack up on the board. W's are sadly lacking at this point but I'm not sure I want to see another coaching change resulting in another 3 or 4 year transition period. A huge name hire could salve the wounds but change for the sake of change is not the direction to go.

I hope that Brewster replacing Mason doesn't turn out to have been change for the sake of change. Nearly everyone agreed it was (long past) time for Glen to heave ho. Like you I had hoped for a marquee hire, a la Tubby. Unless we finish like last year there's no reason to S-can Brewster, as any coach deserves 4 years to turn around a program. Particularly given the state it was in when Brewster arrived. OTOH, if we finish with a 4-8 record, capped by a 55-0 ghetto beating in Iowa City it may be hard for anyone to defend keeping TB on for a 4th season.
 

over the past 40 years: 53 W/91 L (37% Ws).

Only 8 winning Novembers in that 40 year span.

Sure, only 8 winning Novembers, but only 6 winning Big Ten seasons during that same time. That's if you are counting from 1969, when we were 4-3 in the BT. Only 5 winning BT seasons if you start at 1970. Looking at it that way, you could make the case that we outperform in November. I'm not making that case, by the way.

I think the problem is that we haven't been very good. The poor finishes are mostly perception; during the Mason years (and last year) we started strong thanks to an awful non-conference schedule. Start 4-0, then beat maybe Northwestern, Indiana or Illinois somewhat early in the BT schedule to pad the record further, then start losing. It's more a matter of who we played when, not necessarily poor coaching or conditioning.
 

Which one of the voices in your head is your most accurate source??

The same one that said Mason had pissed Maturi off in 2006 because him & Pinnix weren't seeing eye to eye so Mase refused to give Pinnix snaps. He'd rather convert a DE to RB then give one of the fastest players on the team some reps at a position he'd been proven at. That alone had Mase on the ropes and he WOULD'VE been fired had we lost to NDSU & Gordie Shaw would've taken over the rest of the season.......
 



Hopefully, we'll see it pan out like 2006 (absent the Insight Bowl meltdown).

As of 10/28: 0-5 in the Big Ten

11/4: 63-26 win over Indiana
11/11: 31-18 win at Michigan State
11/18: 34-24 win over Iowa to take posession of Floyd of Rosedale
 




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