Not so classy RCTC

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Ok ... so this is not Gopher related but MN related. I was driving in the car yesterday afternoon. The game between Rochester Com. College/Tech School vs Itasca Com was on a local Rochester radio station. It was late in the 4th quarter and RCTC was ahead by 47 pts. They run a fake punt that succeeds. It had been a moral victory for Itasca stopping RCTC and then they run a fake punt. Don't get it ... and people got mad at Wisconsin for going for a 2 pt conversion a few years ago. What would they have said if Wisconsin did the fake punt thing to us?
 

And the countdown to the first "if you don't like it, stop it" reply... 10... 9... 8...
 

I guess that there are a couple of ways of looking at this. I looked at their web page and RCTC has new, young coaches, most of whom are trying to look bad-ass in their photos. So I guess that it doesn't surprise me in that sense, or based on the history of the program. In the '70's when I was growing up in Rochester that team did not hold back against inferior opponents either.
 

I'll beat the countdown. I don't think the "if you don't like it ... stop it" applies when one team totally is totally dominant over another. Not when they've already proved they can't stop it.
 



I'm usually leading the charge with the "if you don't like it, stop it" crowd. I'd be curious to know the relationship between the schools. Are they from different tiers of whatever division football they play in? Or are they supposed to be competitive?
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I'm usually leading the charge with the "if you don't like it, stop it" crowd. I'd be curious to know the relationship between the schools. Are they from different tiers of whatever division football they play in? Or are they supposed to be competitive?
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47 points is 47 points. Teaching young adults to win with dignity while leaving your opponents some of theirs is important. Can you understand that much?
 

I don't know if there is much history between the schools. I think that they are in the same league, so the idea is that they should be competitive. However, Rochester has a decades long history of running up the score on terrible opponents. Again, back in the '70's the Willmar CC team was about the only one that could consistently compete with RCC (now RCTC). I recall the Rochester CC coach, Cy Champa, complaining that Willmar would let the grass grow really tall if Rochester had speedy running backs, and one time he claimed that because RCC was a passing team Willmar dimmed the lights so much that the ball was next to impossible to see when passed or punted. So as 50pound has stated what happened was Bush League, and Bush League things have happened in that league for a long time.
 

maxwellsmart said:
47 points is 47 points. Teaching young adults to win with dignity while leaving your opponents some of theirs is important. Can you understand that much?
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I am not thrilled about the RCTC coach doing it, and I certainly wouldn't, I guess I just don't think its a big deal. If I'm an Itasca fan, I'm saving my anger for the coach/athletic department which is putting on the field a product that is losing by 47 points.

The Wisco conversion was brought up on this same thread. It was not that I liked Bielema going for 2, I've never liked him and that didn't change my opinion. I was just a lot more upset that our coach had gotten us easily run over and extended an unbearable losing streak to a hated rival.
 



bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I'm usually leading the charge with the "if you don't like it, stop it" crowd. I'd be curious to know the relationship between the schools. Are they from different tiers of whatever division football they play in? Or are they supposed to be competitive?
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Same conference just different divisions, Rochester is in the south and Itasca is in the north. I played in the same conference and Rochester is traditonally pretty good and Itasca is pretty bad usually. Don't think they should have pulled a fake punt there but I'm not suprised that their staff did it at all, just a very arrogant attitude from everyone around that program and really the whole school compared to other schools in the conference.
 


tinyarch said:
Speaking of a$$ kickings...did anyone see the high school score between Mountain Lake Area Schools vs Renville County?

MLA 91 - Renville 7

Talk about "teaching young adults to win with dignity"...

http://www.mnfootballhub.com/page/show/784232?subseason=106402
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They scored 53 in the first quarter. It was 79-0 at the half.

As for the fake punt, I'd be mad as a player/fan/coach that we showed a trick play in a situation when we didn't need it. Now future opponents have film on it and know to watch out for it.
 

tinyarch said:
Speaking of a$$ kickings...did anyone see the high school score between Mountain Lake Area Schools vs Renville County?

MLA 91 - Renville 7

Talk about "teaching young adults to win with dignity"...

http://www.mnfootballhub.com/page/show/784232?subseason=106402
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It was 53-0 after one quarter and 79-0 at the half. They averaged 17 yards a rush. Your players aren't going to run around in a circle and fall down--

From windomnews.com:

RCW 00-00-00-07 = 07
MLA 53-26-06-06 = 91

"Mt. Lake Area took advantage of a short field the entire first half and overwhelmed Renville County West for a 91-7 victory Friday at Mt. Lake.

The Wolverine ground game rushed for 424 yards, averaging over 17 yards per rushing attempt for the game. The entire second half was played with running time.

The fireworks started early for the Wolverines when Jose Gonzalez returned the opening kickoff 86 yards for a touchdown and a quick 8-0 Wolverine lead.

Carter Kirk tacked on scoring runs of 17, 26, 30 and 41 in the first half. Kirk completed touchdown passes of 20 yards to Eric Wenner, 13 yards to Jared Willaby and 18 yards to Alex Gerdes.

Demar Rodney added a 33-yard touchdown run. Andrew Hempeck scored on a 53-yard run and Levi Kass added a 5-yard touchdown run.

In the second half, Logan Johnson scored on a 1-yard run and Chris Boyd scored on an 11-yard run.

Kirk finished with 185 yards rushing on just seven carries to lead the Wolverines. Hempeck added 69 yards on two carries. Rodney rushed three times for 62 yards and Johnson rushed five times for 57 yards.

Kirk completed 5-of-11 passes for 82 yards."
 



maxwellsmart said:
47 points is 47 points. Teaching young adults to win with dignity while leaving your opponents some of theirs is important. Can you understand that much?
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+99 million. I don't know how the relatively recent attitude of "posture over class" came from, but RCTC's behavior is one of the more egregious examples of low-class behavior on the field I've heard about in a long time.

If a team is simply running its standard plays and going down the depth chart as the rout commences, I don't have a real problem with that. If a college team scores three touchdowns late to add insult to injury by giving second and third-stringers some playing time, I think that's alright. It's when teams start running trick plays or going off script just to poke the other team in the eye that is a problem for me. That was my beef with Bielema going for 2 and it's my beef with RCTC.
 

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