NCAA proposes offense can't snap the ball until play clock is at 29 seconds

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>NCAA football rules committee proposes offense can't snap the ball until play clock reaches 29 seconds or less. Would reduce total plays.</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/statuses/433724791208812544">February 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>According to <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachArtBriles">@CoachArtBriles</a>, Baylor snapped the ball on offense at it's quickest against play clock at around :29, on average :24-:26.</p>— David Smoak (@DavidSmoak) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidSmoak/statuses/433739629846462464">February 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I have mixed feelings about this one. There are times when I think this may be a good idea as it doesn't seem there is time to switch a defensive player. But, then again, if that's part of a game plan, the defense better be ready.
Also, I think there may be too many exceptions that would make the rule confusing. What would happen if the clock is running down near the end of a quarter, and the offense wants to score. That would be a disadvantage and could potentially have a direct outcome on a game.
 


CWCWCW said:
I have mixed feelings about this one. There are times when I think this may be a good idea as it doesn't seem there is time to switch a defensive player. But, then again, if that's part of a game plan, the defense better be ready.
Also, I think there may be too many exceptions that would make the rule confusing. What would happen if the clock is running down near the end of a quarter, and the offense wants to score. That would be a disadvantage and could potentially have a direct outcome on a game.
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This is what I'm wondering too. Would there be an exception for time-sensitive portions of the game? When a team gets a first down, the game clock doesn't start again until the ball is spotted. I assume the play clock runs from the time that the ballcarrier is down, though? If so, there would certainly be times when a ref spots the ball before the play clock hits 29 seconds. Would the offense have to wait? Would the game clock not start until the play clock hits 29?
 


CWCWCW said:
I have mixed feelings about this one. There are times when I think this may be a good idea as it doesn't seem there is time to switch a defensive player. But, then again, if that's part of a game plan, the defense better be ready.
Also, I think there may be too many exceptions that would make the rule confusing. What would happen if the clock is running down near the end of a quarter, and the offense wants to score. That would be a disadvantage and could potentially have a direct outcome on a game.
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I was just thinking the same thing. Does this mean that the offense can't spike the ball without letting 6 seconds run off the clock?

More importantly, if the offense is set and wants to run a play, it seems absurd to not let them. It is really pathetic that coach's response to an innovative offense is not, "alright, how do I defend this thing?" and is instead "how do we either change the rules or cheat our way around it?"
 

dumb. dumb. dumb. dumb. why hamper the offense for having its S*** together and wanting to run plays? if you can't get your D coordinated tough cookies. seems like it's just hampering the jet type offenses that want to get up and down the field more. In regards to scoring at the end of a half, i'm in total agreement. If a guy catches a 9 yard slant and is tackled in bounds, you are severely penalizing the offense as most likely they're going to have to wait to snap the ball. Just a garbage proposal all the way around
 



bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I was just thinking the same thing. Does this mean that the offense can't spike the ball without letting 6 seconds run off the clock?

More importantly, if the offense is set and wants to run a play, it seems absurd to not let them. It is really pathetic that coach's response to an innovative offense is not, "alright, how do I defend this thing?" and is instead "how do we either change the rules or cheat our way around it?"
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According to this article, big boy Bielema was one of those complainers

http://www.clarionledger.com/viewar...ses-rule-change-slow-down-fast-paced-offenses

There was much discussion about the pace of the game last season, with some coaches — most notably Alabama's Nick Saban and Arkansas' Bret Bielema — questioning whether something needed to be done to slow down offenses.
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"There was much discussion about the pace of the game last season, with some coaches — most notably Alabama's Nick Saban and Arkansas' Bret Bielema — questioning whether something needed to be done to slow down offenses."

After his 0-8 performance in the SEC, it seems like Bielema is already an expert at slowing down Arkansas' offense.

To your earlier question, I believe the play clock is initiated from ball placement, even on first downs, so there would not be a situation where the ball is set before 29 seconds. Might be wrong on that though.
 

Why have a play clock running when you can't run a play?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>According to <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachArtBriles">@CoachArtBriles</a>, Baylor snapped the ball on offense at it's quickest against play clock at around :29, on average :24-:26.</p>— David Smoak (@DavidSmoak) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidSmoak/statuses/433739629846462464">February 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I think this shows why this rule is not a big deal. It will affect very few plays, even for Baylor and Oregon.
 



Personally, I don't mind the fast play but I don't like the idea of using it to put the D at a personnel disadvantage. We fans want to see best on best. How about if the O doesn't huddle, they can't sub again until after the next play they do huddle. You wanna go fast, fine, do it with your base O.
 

Stupid idea. It'll never happen. Created to stir discussions in the off season. Mission accomplished.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>NCAA football rules committee proposes offense can't snap the ball until play clock reaches 29 seconds or less. Would reduce total plays.</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/statuses/433724791208812544">February 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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GophersInIowa said:
I think this shows why this rule is not a big deal. It will affect very few plays, even for Baylor and Oregon.
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They averaged that amount of time for each snap. However, I believe they would be lined up before then when they would go into their cadence and do dummy calls and what not. The fact that they are lined up is what makes it impossible to make defensive substitutions. This is how it could affect their offense.

It isn't that they snap it with 29 seconds on the play clock, it is that they could snap it before then.
 

badgergopher said:
Personally, I don't mind the fast play but I don't like the idea of using it to put the D at a personnel disadvantage. We fans want to see best on best. How about if the O doesn't huddle, they can't sub again until after the next play they do huddle. You wanna go fast, fine, do it with your base O.
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I thought if they did substitute, the defense also got time to substitute.
 

The only thing this would end up affecting is the spiked ball to stop the clock. Which is a stupid idea.
 

I agree with Saban that it is a safety issue, especially in the SEC. It is also really hard for defenses to get players substituted when they are gassed near the end of games as happened to us at Indiana, and our guys are in shape and we rotate players way ore than most teams.
 


chip Kelly must of known this was brewing and that is why he ran to the nfl... Oregon will loose like 30 plays a game... thats like 3-4 tds for them...
 

What a horrible idea. Football is a game of strategy, preparedness, and effort. The game doesn't need stupid extraneous rules like this one.
 


Did Roger Goodell's dumbass take a job with NCAA? He must have, he's the only person talented enough to mess up football this bad.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
To your earlier question, I believe the play clock is initiated from ball placement, even on first downs, so there would not be a situation where the ball is set before 29 seconds. Might be wrong on that though.
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The play clock sets to 40 when the official puts his hand in the air to end the play, signals out of bounds or incomplete pass. If the officials don't get the ball set before the play clocks hits 20, they reset it to 25. Most get it in place by 32-34 on the play clock. The rule could help from an officials standpoint. It would allow for the umpire to get the ball down and safely get to their spot to officiate. If Offense subs, the defense has a chance to match up. The umpire will stay over the ball until defense has had this chance. I think it would have more support if it was for the safety of the umpire and allows them to get in position to officiate at a high level.

Going to an 8th official like the Big 12 would help. The 8th guy just spots the ball and gets out of there. I think all leagues should go to an 8th.
 

I know the clock management piece was brought up earlier on this thread. I just read an article about the rule on ESPN.com, the proposed rule would not be in effect in the last two minutes of either half.
 

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