MSR: Diversity in athletics administration is still a four letter word: none

[BleedGopher]

per the Spokesman Recorder:

Diversity in the University of Minnesota’s athletics administration is still a four-letter word: None.

Teague’s first major hiring decision came this past spring when he fired the school’s only Black head coach and replaced him with someone White. Then, at least twice this summer, I’ve heard Teague say publicly how things now are much better in men’s basketball, falsely comparing someone who hasn’t won a national championship, yet alone a game as Gopher coach, with his predecessor, who had done so.

“After we made the decision to hire him, he’s shown me that he really knows how to build a program,” bragged Teague.

This Black man’s ears stood at full attention as he slipped in this ditty that a White coach with less experience can do more than a more experienced Black coach. This is cultural conditioning that White people are superior and Black people are inferior, and the manifestation of this is that Blacks are underestimated, undervalued and marginized.

It is this type of cultural conditioning that permeates college sport from coast to coast. It is this type of cultural conditioning that has decades-deep roots at the U of M.

http://www.spokesman-recorder.com/2...ar-the-bottom-under-teague-its-getting-worse/

Go Gophers!!

 

[MinneStoa]

I, for one, am just glad that we can still find somebody who will make just about anything a racial issue. I frankly find it sickening that Teague is excited about our shiny new white coach.

 

[Nate]

Diversity is defined as race now?

 

[Winasota Gopher]

Numbers don't lie...

Authors often do...

 

[bga1]

per the Spokesman Recorder:

Diversity in the University of Minnesota’s athletics administration is still a four-letter word: None.

Teague’s first major hiring decision came this past spring when he fired the school’s only Black head coach and replaced him with someone White. Then, at least twice this summer, I’ve heard Teague say publicly how things now are much better in men’s basketball, falsely comparing someone who hasn’t won a national championship, yet alone a game as Gopher coach, with his predecessor, who had done so.

“After we made the decision to hire him, he’s shown me that he really knows how to build a program,” bragged Teague.

This Black man’s ears stood at full attention as he slipped in this ditty that a White coach with less experience can do more than a more experienced Black coach. This is cultural conditioning that White people are superior and Black people are inferior, and the manifestation of this is that Blacks are underestimated, undervalued and marginized.

It is this type of cultural conditioning that permeates college sport from coast to coast. It is this type of cultural conditioning that has decades-deep roots at the U of M.

http://www.spokesman-recorder.com/2...ar-the-bottom-under-teague-its-getting-worse/

Go Gophers!!

Good grief. Racism is alive and well................... at the Spokesman Recorder. Should we have more white players on the basketball team- just to fill a quota? I guess they didn't try for Shaka Smart hard enough?

Best man for the job- white, black or otherwise should be the only policy.

 

[scher215]

Good grief. Racism is alive and well................... at the Spokesman Recorder. Should we have more white players on the basketball team- just to fill a quota? I guess they didn't try for Shaka Smart hard enough?

Best man for the job- white, black or otherwise should be the only policy.

In surprised the AARP isn't an arms as well. We fired an old coach for a young one! Age discrimination! What's with all these young people on staff!

 

[dpodoll68]

What a joke. Racism has nothing to do with it. Teague is boasting about the hire because it's his and it's in his best interest to make himself look good. Had he hired Shaka Smart or Anthony Grant, he'd be doing the same thing.

 

[BBQ Platypus]

I suspect I'm more sympathetic to this guy's concerns than most other folks on this board. I, unlike everyone else here, am at least not butthurt by the accusation. Discrimination still exists, folks - even in university administration. And if I'm not mistaken, the number of black coaches is still nowhere near commensurate with the number you'd expect to see given the number of black players. He's not making that part up. It's annoying to be reminded that inequality exists, and very easy to make excuses for it, but the truth is that there probably aren't enough black coaches. This stuff's not coming from nowhere.

Not saying I think this is a good article, of course (it's not), but I do think he has a bit of a point regarding assistants and administrators.

But regarding the hiring of Pitino, I agree that he is woefully uninformed and off-base. The first guy Teague called was Shaka Smart. He'd be our coach if he'd wanted to come. Anthony Grant was another name said to be in the running (though I'm not sure if that was actually the case). He brought on Kimani Young as an assistant because both he and Pitino believed he'd be best for the job, despite the fact that he could have easily pulled a Maturi and stonewalled him based on things he did in the past. The case for Smith being fired has been made countless times on this board, and even those who disagree with the decision could at least say that a reasonable person could agree with it. All signs point to this being purely a basketball decision. One should always check one's suspicions against the facts.

 

[scher215]

I suspect I'm more sympathetic to this guy's concerns than most other folks on this board. I, unlike everyone else here, am at least not butthurt by the accusation. Discrimination still exists, folks - even in university administration. And if I'm not mistaken, the number of black coaches is still nowhere near commensurate with the number you'd expect to see given the number of black players. He's not making that part up. It's annoying to be reminded that inequality exists, and very easy to make excuses for it, but the truth is that there probably aren't enough black coaches. This stuff's not coming from nowhere.

Not saying I think this is a good article, of course (it's not), but I do think he has a bit of a point regarding assistants and administrators.

But regarding the hiring of Pitino, I agree that he is woefully uninformed and off-base. The first guy Teague called was Shaka Smart. He'd be our coach if he'd wanted to come. Anthony Grant was another name said to be in the running (though I'm not sure if that was actually the case). The case for Smith being fired has been made countless times on this board, and even those who disagree with the decision could at least say that a reasonable person could agree with it. All signs point to this being purely a basketball decision. One should always check one's suspicions against the facts.

Well said and agreed.

 

[Ski U Mah Gopher]

I think the article was more about the administration. Of course the author forgot all about Quincy Lewis.


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[MinneStoa]

I suspect I'm more sympathetic to this guy's concerns than most other folks on this board. I, unlike everyone else here, am at least not butthurt by the accusation. Discrimination still exists, folks - even in university administration. And if I'm not mistaken, the number of black coaches is still nowhere near commensurate with the number you'd expect to see given the number of black players. He's not making that part up. It's annoying to be reminded that inequality exists, and very easy to make excuses for it, but the truth is that there probably aren't enough black coaches. This stuff's not coming from nowhere.

Not saying I think this is a good article, of course (it's not), but I do think he has a bit of a point regarding assistants and administrators.

But regarding the hiring of Pitino, I agree that he is woefully uninformed and off-base. The first guy Teague called was Shaka Smart. He'd be our coach if he'd wanted to come. Anthony Grant was another name said to be in the running (though I'm not sure if that was actually the case). He brought on Kimani Young as an assistant because both he and Pitino believed he'd be best for the job, despite the fact that he could have easily pulled a Maturi and stonewalled him based on things he did in the past. The case for Smith being fired has been made countless times on this board, and even those who disagree with the decision could at least say that a reasonable person could agree with it. All signs point to this being purely a basketball decision. One should always check one's suspicions against the facts.

I think the reason so many are getting butthurt about the article is because it is so terribly written that its hard to take any of the points seriously.

I doubt you'd find anyone on this forum (at least I hope) who doesn't see that there is absolutely inequality in the demographics of college coaches. We were just having a bit of fun by pissing on such a horribly written article.

 

[The-Real-Truth]

How many of you on this board watch baseball? There are fewer and fewer American players every season in MLB. How many of the mangers are Hispanic? It is the same in the real world. How many of the deans on UofM are None-white American? The article is telling the truth. People like bga1 who once clearly made fun of certain political party will never understand this. You have to be a part of under-represented in order to understand the point of this article.

Go Gophers

 

[scher215]

How many of you on this board watch baseball? There are fewer and fewer American players every season in MLB. How many of the mangers are Hispanic? It is the same in the real world. How many of the deans on UofM are None-white American? The article is telling the truth. People like bga1 who once clearly made fun of certain political party will never understand this. You have to be a part of under-represented in order to understand the point of this article.

Go Gophers

No one is arguing the article doesn't have merit. It is a very real issue.

The stupidity of it is trying to say the U did a racist act by hiring Pitino, when they (allegedly) made a run at Shaka Smart and Anthony Grant and Teague hired Shaka Smart himself at his previous job. Just seems like an odd conclusion to draw from the Pitino hire. Minnesota hired a white coach so they are racist.

 

[The-Real-Truth]

No one is arguing the article doesn't have merit. It is a very real issue.

The stupidity of it is trying to say the U did a racist act by hiring Pitino, when they (allegedly) made a run at Shaka Smart and Anthony Grant and Teague hired Shaka Smart himself at his previous job. Just seems like an odd conclusion to draw from the Pitino hire. Minnesota hired a white coach so they are racist.

Agreed with you but I am not sure if you are correct about "no one".

 

[Gopherguy0723]

Agreed with you but I am not sure if you are correct about "no one".

Indeed.

 

[bga1]

How many of you on this board watch baseball? There are fewer and fewer American players every season in MLB. How many of the mangers are Hispanic? It is the same in the real world. How many of the deans on UofM are None-white American? The article is telling the truth. People like bga1 who once clearly made fun of certain political party will never understand this. You have to be a part of under-represented in order to understand the point of this article.

Go Gophers

So what? What a silly point. Once Hispanic players have been in the league a long time, some of them will become managers. As people grow into a system, work at the craft and become good candidates then they get hired. Good grief, what a lousy mentality to think that there has to be some quota for everything. Trust me if there is a Hispanic who is well qualified that an owner thinks can win- he'll get hired because it's about winning- not about quotas.

"I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King, Jr.

A better man than either of us had this figured out a long time ago.

 

[Jim Cramer]

we need a fair amount of black, white, gay, asian, hispanic, college coaches ect. or some folks will cry about inequality. Equal opportunity is what is necessary not a quota system.

 

[Gopherguy0723]

So what? What a silly point. Once Hispanic players have been in the league a long time, some of them will become managers. As people grow into a system, work at the craft and become good candidates then they get hire. Good grief, what a lousy mentality to think that there has to be some quota for everything. Trust me if there is a Hispanic who is well qualified that an owner thinks can win- he'll get hired because it's about winning- not about quotas.

"I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King, Jr.

A better man than either of us had this figured out a long time ago.

I am absolutely certain the intent of that quote was for you to be able to support your current position. Do you also happen to be part of the majority affected by reverse racism as well?

 

[Saber]

The "article" was absurd and shouldn't have even been posted, since doing so rewards such an asinine author with clicks.

The issue of racial discrimination in the coaching ranks is a real one, but I don't think any unbiased observer of our hiring process can seriously think that it played a role here. Tubby was fired because of his lack of performance, not the color of his skin. Experienced or not, his results were unsatisfactory and his effort at recruiting and program-building was weak. Add to that, our top candidate and at least one other serious candidate for the job were black. As happy as I am with the Pitino hire to this point, he was a fall-back. I doubt the author even watches Gopher basketball.

This is just a whiner crying racism to get attention. Believe it or not, there are good white candidates out there too.

 

[Gopherguy0723]

The "article" was absurd and shouldn't have even been posted, since doing so rewards such an asinine author with clicks.

The issue of racial discrimination in the coaching ranks is a real one, but I don't think any unbiased observer of our hiring process can seriously think that it played a role here. Tubby was fired because of his lack of performance, not the color of his skin. Experienced or not, his results were unsatisfactory and his effort at recruiting and program-building was weak. Add to that, our top candidate and at least one other serious candidate for the job were black. As happy as I am with the Pitino hire to this point, he was a fall-back. I doubt the author even watches Gopher basketball.

This is just a whiner crying racism to get attention. Believe it or not, there are good white candidates out there too.

This assessment is mostly correct.

 

[howieramone]

The "article" was absurd and shouldn't have even been posted, since doing so rewards such an asinine author with clicks.

The issue of racial discrimination in the coaching ranks is a real one, but I don't think any unbiased observer of our hiring process can seriously think that it played a role here. Tubby was fired because of his lack of performance, not the color of his skin. Experienced or not, his results were unsatisfactory and his effort at recruiting and program-building was weak. Add to that, our top candidate and at least one other serious candidate for the job were black. As happy as I am with the Pitino hire to this point, he was a fall-back. I doubt the author even watches Gopher basketball.

This is just a whiner crying racism to get attention. Believe it or not, there are good white candidates out there too.

History will judge his recruiting and program-building as no worse than average.

 

[GophersInIowa]

I think the article was more about the administration. Of course the author forgot all about Quincy Lewis.


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These type of articles do seem to "forget" about certain people.

I loved the article about the Twins not having any black players after they traded away Span and Revere this off-season. The writer of that article conveniently left out the fact that the person whom everyone expected to replaced those guys in CF is black (Hicks).

 

[bleedsmaroonandgold]

No one is arguing the article doesn't have merit. It is a very real issue.

The stupidity of it is trying to say the U did a racist act by hiring Pitino, when they (allegedly) made a run at Shaka Smart and Anthony Grant and Teague hired Shaka Smart himself at his previous job. Just seems like an odd conclusion to draw from the Pitino hire. Minnesota hired a white coach so they are racist.

I would argue that the article doesn't have merit. The fact that discrimination does still exist does not justify an article trying to turn a hiring that clearly was not about race (as noted several times, we went after Shaka first) into something racist. Frankly, I think most of these type of disparities are a bottom up kind of thing. We see racial disparities at most levels of coaching. If the major conference schools are wanting to hire a successful coach from a mid-major conference, and there is a disparity in the ranks of mid-major coaches, then the applicant pool for the major jobs is already racially disparate, even if there is no inappropriate conduct by the major schools.

 

[bleedsmaroonandgold]

These type of articles do seem to "forget" about certain people.

I loved the article about the Twins not having any black players after they traded away Span and Revere this off-season. The writer of that article conveniently left out the fact that the person whom everyone expected to replaced those guys in CF is black (Hicks).

I was amused by the article last year accusing the T-Wolves of not being diverse enough despite the fact that they had more nationalities represented than any other team in the NBA.

 

[station19]

Kind of sad this Bozo doesn't realize he is hurting his own cause.

 

[Rouser]

First of all, the phrase "racial hiring" does not mean he is talking about racism, or racism as most people think. He is talking about diversity or rather, lack there of.. Just my opinion, these issues usually bring out wide ranging opinions.. just how it is.

Apparently I am in the minority for the GopherHole (no pun intended) as it relates to the story. Bottom line, our athletic department is not diverse. Hiring Q does not change that.. its not like, "hey, we hired a black guy, we're covered". Most companies have an affirmative action policy which lists the % of employees in each category (management, sales, etc) are minority, women, etc. Its kind of the law.. These policies also talk about the companies % for any given category as it relates to pool of qualified employees. Usually, companies will argue their lack of diveristy is because the pool of employees that are qualified is small.. which is bogus but tough to quantify. My guess is that the U's athletic department wouldn't fare well in this analysis.

I don't really agree with the tone or supporting points made in the story, but I'm also not ready to shoot the messenger.

Truth hurts sometimes.