MIAC football, and linking my two favorite college teams

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With the Gophers on a bye week, I went down to the Gustavus vs Carleton game this past weekend. As I sat there soaking it in (just a wonderful day and great football, if you were a Gustavus fan), I couldn't help but compare my favorite D1 program to my favorite D3 program.

Like the Gophers, the Gusties have a rich tradition, but recent decades have not been so kind. Although there is the second-most MIAC championships (22), the most recent is 1987 and that one came out of the blue. A new stadium was built and opened in 2007, just as the Gophers' own new stadium started to rise. Unlike TCF, this new stadium is very large compared to its peers among D3 facilities. However, like TCF it is state-of-the-art. Like the Gophers, the Gusties have a back loaded schedule where the toughest opponents will appear in a line during the season's final month.

The GAC head coach (Peter Haugen, now in his 6th year) has turned the program toward the conference's upper half (perhaps beyond?), just like Jerry Kill.

Although both teams are on the rise, the way in which they are doing it is exactly opposite. The Gophers are pounding the ball. The Gusties are airing it out. After looking at early results and seeing them in person, it is hard to imagine many (any?) MIAC passing records lasting past this season. The Gusties have a dynamic QB that is going to re-write a lot of records. He currently leads all of D3 in passing and passing completion percentage, TD passes, etc. etc. Although Carleton is far from a top team, this QB (Mitch Hendricks) completed 24 of 28 on Saturday WITH THREE DROPS, and a lot of those throws were deep down field. It would be difficult to do that in a 7 on 7 shell session. Nearly every throw is right on target, even in traffic. TD to Int so far is 24/1. On the season he is 143 for 179! 300 yard passing days are now the norm and he threw for 7 TD's against Augsburg. The season LOW for points is 42.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/d3/current/individual/453

If GAC can continue to regain its long dusty mojo, along with the new stadium it may become a bucket list type atmosphere in future years as the only facility that could rival St. Johns for small college football crowd sizes and football fun. But, that is obviously getting ahead of myself. First things first... this season has to play out in the same way it has begun. You may not get to read about it in the Strib though, as that paper seems to continue to focus its coverage on St. Johns. And the Evil neighbor has hitched its wagon to St. Thomas.
 

Oddly enough, I have a few people that I grew up with in Wheaton, MN that have played at both schools in the last ten years. So, I followed both teams pretty closely for a while. Especially Carleton, since one of my best friends form high school played for the Knights from about '02-'05.
 

A new stadium was built and opened in 2007, just as the Gophers' own new stadium started to rise. Unlike TCF, this new stadium is very large compared to its peers among D3 facilities. However, like TCF it is state-of-the-art.

The GAC head coach (Peter Haugen, now in his 6th year) has turned the program toward the conference's upper half (perhaps beyond?), just like Jerry Kill.
I'd say it's best place in the state to watch a football game. Has to be the closest to the field since they made the wise decision to not try to play soccer there as well. Let soccer and track have their own facilities with bleachers that match their highest potential attendance.

All that said, it's not "very large compared to its peers" if the peers are Bethel, St. Thomas, St. John's and Concordia as they all have double the average attendance of Gustavus.
 

I stand by that comment. When referencing peers, I specifically said "D3", as in all of D3... Not just 4 MIAC schools, 3 of which that happened to win the majority of conference championships in recent years (which would naturally drive higher attendance). And, I was also referring to capacity of the new stadium, not existing attendance figures. Speaking of which, capacity is officially 5,000 but given the unique construction may actually be much higher. Perhaps we will hear some big attendance numbers in the future if the team continues its improvement.
 

I stand by that comment. When referencing peers, I specifically said "D3", as in all of D3... Not just 4 MIAC schools, 3 of which that happened to win the majority of conference championships in recent years (which would naturally drive higher attendance). And, I was also referring to capacity of the new stadium, not existing attendance figures. Speaking of which, capacity is officially 5,000 but given the unique construction may actually be much higher. Perhaps we will hear some big attendance numbers in the future if the team continues its improvement.
but in the context of comparing them to the gophers, the capacity and attendance are still less than the conference peers. So the Gusties are even more Gopherlike than you think. Maybe they'll build a bigger stand on the East side if they move into the upper tier and do start getting crowds approaching 10k.
 


It is a big stadium by D3 measures. That is my point.
 

On a similar note. Last Saturday the wife and I took in the Concordia (St. Paul)-USF game down here in Sioux Falls. It was a really fun night even if the wind blew like a SOB. Some really good athletes in D2 & 3. Also nice to see an old friend as he is a coach for CSP.
 

I don't see Gustavus competing in the MIAC anytime soon. St. John's has been down recently but they'll be back. And Bethel and St. Thomas are rising stars. If anyone is poised for success it's Concordia. Gustavus will be fortunate that they hit 6 wins this year.
 

I don't see Gustavus competing in the MIAC anytime soon. St. John's has been down recently but they'll be back. And Bethel and St. Thomas are rising stars. If anyone is poised for success it's Concordia. Gustavus will be fortunate that they hit 6 wins this year.

This quote is very funny considering the following:

Gustavus is currently 5-0. So I think it would be quite a collapse to "be fortunate" to hit 6 wins this year. In fact, I will Guarantee you a minimum 6 wins for the Gusties this season. If it stays at 6, there will be a lot of bummed people in St. Peter.

Gustavus beat St. John's last season, and is much improved this season. They may not beat the Johnnies again this year, but a win wouldn't shock anyone (well, except you, I guess).

I agree Concordia is on the rise. They had a tight battle with Gustavus last year and I expect another close one again this season.

Currently Gustavus is the only undefeated (overall) team in the MIAC. You may not "see Gustavus competing in the MIAC anytime soon" but I would argue they already are.
 



They'll be fortunate that they hit 6 wins this year. Not fortunate if they hit 6 wins this year. That Gustavus education must be hard at work.

Gustavus will certainly win against St. Olaf. But then their games against St John's, St Thomas, Concordia, and Bethel are all likely losses. I guess we'll see what happens, but the people in St. Peter are probably going to be disappointed. The few that are actually interested in football that is.
 

Again... Team is MUCH improved. Beat St. Johns last year. Lost 31-38 to Concordia last year. Had close loss to St. Thomas last year. Lost handily to Bethel last year but has looked better against common opponents this season. Definitely a tough back end to the schedule, but a 5-0 team that has had an average margin of victory of over 32 points is not "fortunate" to repeat the same record it achieved the previous year.

Gustavus might not win the MIAC this year, but will certainly be in the mix with Concordia, St. Johns, St. Thomas, and BU.
 

I go to Bethel and am a student manager for the football team. I will say Im a bit biased but the team is looking much much stronger than the uncharacteristic loss at Wartburg. Bridge Tusler of Osseo is one of the best athletes in all of d3 I would say and the Marquardt brothers are pretty dynamic.
 

I think among all the contenders BU is the team to beat again this year. I also think they are built a bit better for bad weather and November games, compared to GAC. GAC relies so steadily on the passing game, I have the feeling Mother Nature could wreak havoc on their game.
 



As a Carleton alum, I'd allude to the fact that Coach Klein is also a Carleton alum. #BrickbyBrick
 




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