Medical red shirt or whatever they're called

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For those better informed, for guys out for the season - does anyone have an opportunity for a medical red shirt / hardship waiver if they don't play the rest of the year?

Who has all been out for extended time?

Duke
Plsek
Ace
Travis
 

If they don't play another game, I'd say they all are. But it I'd still the NCAAs decision
 

Hasn't Duke already used one? Or is there no limit?
 


You can have more than one medical rs year but it's up to a max of 6 years of eligibility
 


Duke has used a traditional redshirt and a medical redshirt. He's already looking at 6 years, so he's not eligible.

Plsek, whether a traditional redshirt or medical redshirt is used (I don't think it matters), will be back assuming he's healthy enough to play and wants to come back

Rogers I'm not sure about. I think he's eligible for a medical redshirt assuming he was within the participation limits (3 or 4 games?)

Travis would be eligible for a medical redshirt assuming his injury keeps him out the rest of the year.
 

jaymil said:
Duke has used a traditional redshirt and a medical redshirt. He's already looking at 6 years, so he's not eligible. Plsek, whether a traditional redshirt or medical redshirt is used (I don't think it matters), will be back assuming he's healthy enough to play and wants to come back Rogers I'm not sure about. I think he's eligible for a medical redshirt assuming he was within the participation limits (3 or 4 games?) Travis would be eligible for a medical redshirt assuming his injury keeps him out the rest of the year.
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I think you're not correct on Rogers, unless he had an injury earlier in his career I'm not aware of. He had a regular redshirt, played two years, injured this year, will play next year. He doesn't get a sixth year for just being injured one year--would have to be injured two.
 

You can take a redshirt year and a medical redshirt year. You can get up to six years with these two redshirts.
 

I believe the cutoff is 30% of the team's games. So I think that would mean anyone who played in the 4th game of the year or later would not be eligible for a medical redshirt.
 



TruthSeeker said:
You can take a redshirt year and a medical redshirt year. You can get up to six years with these two redshirts.
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This is not correct. Five-Year Rule Waivers are given for situations where an SA misses two years due to circumstances outside of his control. Simply redshirting due to a coaching staff's decision is not valid. You're simply wrong.

upnorthkid said:
If they don't play another game, I'd say they all are. But it I'd still the NCAAs decision
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It's not an issue of playing another game. It's an issue of being medically incapable of playing another game. That is, it's not a "do we play him or don't play him" issue.. it's a "have the doctors cleared him medically? question.
 

So it looks like it is confirmed Rogers is out for the year:

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Gopher Warrior said:
This is not correct. Five-Year Rule Waivers are given for situations where an SA misses two years due to circumstances outside of his control. Simply redshirting due to a coaching staff's decision is not valid. You're simply wrong.



It's not an issue of playing another game. It's an issue of being medically incapable of playing another game. That is, it's not a "do we play him or don't play him" issue.. it's a "have the doctors cleared him medically? question.
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Obviously that was implied. Or do you just enjoy being a ******?
 

GophersInIowa said:
I believe the cutoff is 30% of the team's games. So I think that would mean anyone who played in the 4th game of the year or later would not be eligible for a medical redshirt.
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That's the game limit (and also only in the first half of the year, among other criteria)... 30%. However, there's rounding per the rule. If you have 12 scheduled games, as Minnesota does, you're OK with 4 games.

30% X 12 = 3.6 games. Per 12.8.4.3.6.2, this rounds up to 4 games meeting the 30% limit.
 




Gopher Warrior said:
This is not correct. Five-Year Rule Waivers are given for situations where an SA misses two years due to circumstances outside of his control. Simply redshirting due to a coaching staff's decision is not valid. You're simply wrong.



It's not an issue of playing another game. It's an issue of being medically incapable of playing another game. That is, it's not a "do we play him or don't play him" issue.. it's a "have the doctors cleared him medically? question.
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You're correct, I had it wrong.

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Studwell55 said:
We should be thinking about a medical RS for Travis.
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You can't just do that. If he is healthy enough to play, you can't just hold him out for a medical RS. But I don't think he has redshirted yet, so they could hold him out if they wanted to use a regular redshirt.
 

Good news

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Duke - Already used both.

Ace Rogers - It depends. The "beyond player's control" element of the rule seems to have been relaxed a bit in the last few years. I doubt he could get a 6th season, but maybe.

Plsek - He has his RS available. If he can still play, he'll use it.
 

GophersInIowa said:
You can't just do that. If he is healthy enough to play, you can't just hold him out for a medical RS. But I don't think he has redshirted yet, so they could hold him out if they wanted to use a regular redshirt.
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He played in the TCU game though.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
Duke - Already used both.

Ace Rogers - It depends. The "beyond player's control" element of the rule seems to have been relaxed a bit in the last few years. I doubt he could get a 6th season, but maybe.

Plsek - He has his RS available. If he can still play, he'll use it.
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Rogers could get a medical RS easily has he hasn’t used his regular RS yet. Played as ISU as a frosh, played at JC as a soph and was playing this year as a junior. Wasn’t suppose to spend 5 years in college before his injury.
 

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