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Some of the reasons why the Gophers have struggled
By Marcus Fuller

After Thursday's poor showing in a 71-63 loss to Michigan at home, the Gophers clearly showed how much they have been lacking consistency in every key area.

I wanted to give my take on the Gophers after the midway point in the Big Ten season, but wasn't able to fully judge this team until now. I was giving them a chance to turn things around. But the realistic NCAA tournament hopes are gone now, so here's my analysis of how it happened.

INSIDE PLAY
Smith's team lacked depth and wasn't very consistent inside with Ralph Sampson III and Colton Iverson last season. Nothing has changed. The two 6-foot-11 big men added weight, but have failed to make a significant jump in production from their freshman year. Sampson has shown some flashes of his potential as a shot blocker and scoring option, but he isn't demanding the ball enough, holding his position firmly enough and finishing aggressively at the rim enough.

Michigan senior forward DeShawn Sims' 27 points against the Gophers on Thursday wasn't surprising. He might have an NBA future, and he is the toughest and most gifted post player in the Big Ten this year. You would think getting beaten up everyday in practice by suspended forward Trevor Mbakwe would have prepared Sampson and his teammates enough to play Sims, but it obviously didn't help.

Sampson wasn't a factor from the start with just seven points on 2 for 7 shooting and five rebounds in 20 minutes. Iverson hasn't gotten any better since his two double-doubles in the 76 Classic in California. And he's gotten way too turnover and foul prone to even trust in the game for stretches. He only played six minutes against Michigan.

At 7-feet and 260 pounds, Iverson might be a productive player by the time his college career is over (might be better off at a mid-major program). He probably wouldn't have played much if Royce White and Mbakwe were not suspended because of legal issues. Sampson would have benefited from Mbakwe's rebounding and interior defense. White would have also taken the pressure offensively away from Sampson, who is the only scoring option inside.

People close to Iverson have not heard that he's looking to transfer to another school. But I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, considering Smith is set on Sampson as his starting center for the next two years. Plus, you have a talented 7-footer in Elliott Eliason coming in next season. Eliason was going to redshirt, but if Iverson left that could change.

It's hard to knock the play of Damian Johnson this season, because he always works so hard on defense. But it is pretty apparent that he is maximizing his talent. The thumb injury on his right shooting hand has kept him from really having a monster performance, especially on offense and on the boards. But Johnson has to continue to play through the pain and raise his game to a higher level, if he wants the team to win some big games to end the season.

GUARD PLAY
This area has probably been the biggest disappointment this season. Nobody expected Blake Hoffarber to be a major contributor as a junior with the struggles he had last year. Hoffarber has played poorly in many of Minnesota's losses. But not Thursday with 16 points, including three three-pointers in the second half. Hoffarber has proven to be more of a go-to guy than anyone else on the team with his three-point shooting.

Hoffarber and Lawrence Westbrook, though, rarely play well at the same time. That can't happen with your top two scorers if you want to win big games. Most of the blame has to fall on Westbrook, because he was supposed to be a senior captain this season. He has obviously failed to this point to live up to that, even with two memorable games against Penn State. Smith often takes him out for stretches because of poor shot selection and defensive lapses. In Minnesota's two bad losses in Big Ten play against Indiana and Michigan, Westbrook scored seven points in both games. He also has 10 turnovers in the last two games.

Westbrook was benched in the second half against Indiana and Michigan, although Thursday was partly for foul trouble. Did anyone catch Westbrook going crazy and pouting big time when Smith sent him to the bench when he picked up his third foul? If your leader is acting like that, then it's likely the other players will have a hard time responding to the coach's decisions, as well. Who is to blame? Coaches or players? Or both?

RESERVES
Why is Devoe Joseph in this category? Because he just moved into the starting lineup late in the season. Joseph isn't a very good defender, but he had a great offensive performance against Michigan State with 16 points and seven assists at home taking over for Al Nolen as the starting point guard. But it quickly became evident that he is not a floor leader. Joseph has struggled with his new role. He has 13 assists and 14 turnovers in the last four games. That should be a message to newly named McDonald's All-American Cory Joseph that his older brother needs his help. If Cory plays the point, then Devoe can slide over to shooting guard where he's most comfortable. If that happens, then Devoe could end up being a pretty good Big Ten player. If not...

Backup point guard Justin Cobbs is a decent decision maker for a freshman, but he just isn't much of a scoring threat and he's not a game-changing defender like Nolen. I'm not sure what kind of player he will be in the future.

Paul Carter and Rodney Williams both had opportunities to start at the beginning of the season, but they eventually lost their jobs. They were real X-factors on this team, because both had the potential to help the Gophers in so many ways. But Carter and Williams haven't stood out in one particular area. Smith has limited their playing time throughout the season, because they haven't been rebounding or playing defense well enough at times. Carter was aggressive offensively with 11 points against Michigan on Thursday, but he has a difficult time stringing games like that together. The same can be said about Williams. Carter or Williams will have to fill Johnson's spot next season. But I'm not sure if they can.

Senior Devron Bostick is handling himself well off the court, especially in the classroom, Smith said. But Bostick is often playing out of position in the post. For some reason when he was suspended earlier in the season for violating team rules, Bostick lost his shot. He isn't even looking for his three-point shot anymore. His scoring ability off the bench was a plus to finish last season, but it just isn't there. That's just one of the many things that hurts this team.

-- After Thursday night's performance, I'm predicting a 7-11 Big Ten finish. I think the Gophers will beat Indiana and Iowa at home. But that's it. They will be 16-14 going into the conference tournament, and maybe win a game. That means a solid NIT berth.

-- Other transfer rumors? I heard speculation about a number of players for a while now. It's not just something new that has popped up recently like some would suggest. Only time will tell how many of them actually follow through with it. Those things happen on struggling teams every year. Remember former Gophers coach Dan Monson having two to three players leave every season. The players Smith can't afford to lose are Mbakwe, Sampson, Williams, Hoffarber and Joseph (because that would mean his brother is definitely not coming here). Anybody else departing would hurt the Gophers depth, but they might be able to survive, especially if White returns. Well, if Minnesota isn't making the NCAA tournament, at least there will be something to pay close attention to in late March and April.

Go Gophers!!
 

Was Clem's ban from NCAA Basketball for 10 years or Lifetime? :cool02:
 

Thanks for the Marcus report Bleed. Lots of food for thought in what he reported. Given the avalanche of problems this year, I can understand why things are not going as well as our preseason hopes indicated. We fans are frustrated by our season, no doubt, players are frustrated, no doubt, but can any of us really realize how frustrated Tubby is?
 

With the state of Gopher sports (football, hockey, basketball), and recent Viking loss, I find myself watching alot of Fox North reruns of Twin's victories just to make me feel better.
 

A very fair report by Marcus. Everyone is frustrated, fans & coaches, players, that's for sure. I hope the team finds some inner-resolve and finishes out the season with better effort than what was on display for all to see last night. If there's one thing I can't stomach watching it's a team that doesn't play with great effort. The body language was terrible last night. Hopefully in these last 7+ games the effort returns.

After last night, if I wasn't 100% convinced already, I am now. There's no way Corey Joseph will become a Gopher. His older brother clearly is not happy (I can't for the life of me figure out why, he's getting plenty of PT & Tubby clearly sees him as one of the Gophers' building blocks along with RSIII), and his play reflected that. He had the worst body language of anyone.
 


Marcus writes:

-- After Thursday night's performance, I'm predicting a 7-11 Big Ten finish. I think the Gophers will beat Indiana and Iowa at home. But that's it. They will be 16-14 going into the conference tournament, and maybe win a game. That means a solid NIT berth.

If we go 16-14 (7-11) I don't think that is a solid NIT berth. We might get into the NIT with a 16-14 mark, but there'd be a real possibility we'd get left out of the NIT if it comes to that. The NIT has some stricter guidelines and rules now with some automatic qualifiers, etc. It isn't like the good old days when a .500+ record would get you in if you were from a big conference. My prediction is that if Marcus is right and we go 16-14, that we'd be in the CBI or whatever that other tourney is, not the NIT.
 

I was very disappointed in Westbrook's "tantrum" after he realized he was going to be taken out of the game upon receiving his third foul. I considered his actions too childish for my liking. I've seen many another player reacting negatively to be taken out of a game with foul trouble, but Westbrook's reaction was over the limit for my taste.

There was one other incident last night which really stood out in my mind involving Bostick. In the second half he lost control of his dribble and tried to reach for it with his arms while his feet were flat-footed. When I see players playing on their heels instead of the balls of their feet that tells me there is just no energy or real desire to compete. It's even more compounded when it happens in a home game. Of course a Michigan player who was on the balls of his feet easily picked up the lose ball from Bostick.
 

It's very fortunate for us that we have on competent Gopher beat writer in this town. Marcus, I think, is coming into his own a bit. I think this is a very good breakdown of the team (breakdown, unfortunately, probably being the operative word.)
 

Marcus is SO much better than Myron... its not even close.
 




It's very fortunate for us that we have on competent Gopher beat writer in this town. Marcus, I think, is coming into his own a bit. I think this is a very good breakdown of the team (breakdown, unfortunately, probably being the operative word.)

+19
 

With the state of Gopher sports (football, hockey, basketball), and recent Viking loss, I find myself watching alot of Fox North reruns of Twin's victories just to make me feel better.

I've got the same feeling though I can't watch baseball reruns. Caught a tape replay of Gophers vs Michigan St the other day. Women's gymnastics-my new favorite team. Kendra Elm-my new favorite Gopher.

http://www.gophersports.com/PhotoAlbum.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&PALBID=16825&PAGE=4
 

People close to Iverson have not heard that he's looking to transfer to another school. But I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, considering Smith is set on Sampson as his starting center for the next two years. Plus, you have a talented 7-footer in Elliott Eliason coming in next season. Eliason was going to redshirt, but if Iverson left that could change.

Colt doesn't have much of a future with the Gophers. I've said it before- He is a legit D1 player and there are schools could use him, including two from his home state. The Jackrabbits and Coyotes would give him 25+ mins and he could be an impact player for either.
 



I truly believe Iverson and Williams have a future. Cobbs, I'm not so sure on. I haven't seen anything that makes me believe he can play at this level. Iverson is a project, but his shear size makes me believe he will contribute next year and his senior year. We need a leader at the point and we have nothing as of now. This may be the straw that broke the camels back. I can see a downward slide the rest of the year.
 

I truly believe Iverson and Williams have a future. Cobbs, I'm not so sure on. I haven't seen anything that makes me believe he can play at this level. Iverson is a project, but his shear size makes me believe he will contribute next year and his senior year. We need a leader at the point and we have nothing as of now. This may be the straw that broke the camels back. I can see a downward slide the rest of the year.

I remember Cobb's coach saying he was a tremendous leader - a put the team on his back type of guy. Right now he is afraid to make mistakes and lost in the offensive scheme or lack thereof.
It would be a mistake to give up on him.
 

Time to sink or swim...Put Cobbs on the point, Blake and Devoe on wings, Ralph and DJ on the high block, and go from there. Westy off the bench (or benched permanently). Go from there, and let the chips fall where they may.
 

Time to sink or swim...Put Cobbs on the point, Blake and Devoe on wings, Ralph and DJ on the high block, and go from there. Westy off the bench (or benched permanently). Go from there, and let the chips fall where they may.

Agreed. We need to get Cobbs some solid playing time to get adjusted to college ball and our offense. Especially if he is forced into the role of starting pg next season.
 

Agreed. We need to get Cobbs some solid playing time to get adjusted to college ball and our offense. Especially if he is forced into the role of starting pg next season.

I would like to see Carter get more playing time.
 

I'm really happy to come on here and see that people are giving Marcus some positive reviews.

I wanted nothing to do with reading any game stories about last night's game, but I always read Marcus' blog posts. After I read this, I thought to myself, "wow, Marcus gets the job done again."

It's nice to know you have someone dependable who can cover both Gopher football and basketball. Here's to hoping the Pipress keeps him employed...
 

+1 +1 +1

Originally Posted by SeemoreButts
Time to sink or swim...Put Cobbs on the point, Blake and Devoe on wings, Ralph and DJ on the high block, and go from there. Westy off the bench (or benched permanently). Go from there, and let the chips fall where they may.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rccola889
Agreed. We need to get Cobbs some solid playing time to get adjusted to college ball and our offense. Especially if he is forced into the role of starting pg next season.

I would like to see Carter get more playing time.[/QUOTE
]

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
 

I think Cobbs is doing fine as a true-freshman point guard in the Big 10. He's still learning how to play at this level and has the athletic skills and size to compete at a high level. As he becomes more comfortable with the pace of play and if he can work on his shot and get comfortable with a jumper he'll be just fine.

If we had a big power forward that could defend well, we would have won the game last night.
 

I would like to see Carter get more playing time.

I think it just takes him a little bit to get adjusted to the flow of the game, so when he gets more playing time he becomes more aggressive and into the game.
 

Originally Posted by SeemoreButts
Time to sink or swim...Put Cobbs on the point, Blake and Devoe on wings, Ralph and DJ on the high block, and go from there. Westy off the bench (or benched permanently). Go from there, and let the chips fall where they may.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rccola889
Agreed. We need to get Cobbs some solid playing time to get adjusted to college ball and our offense. Especially if he is forced into the role of starting pg next season.

I would like to see Carter get more playing time.[/QUOTE
]

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

Great suggestions. Cobbs is a true freshman who has had a lot thrown at him due to Nolen's academic ineligibility. He should (and I believe will) get better as he gains experience and confidence.

Finally, someone needs to put the team on his back and be a true leader. Those are cliches but I don't know how to put it any better than that.
 

Rodney needed to RS this year to work on ball handling and shooting. IF you have the chance like me to watch him live you would see this. He can't create his own show by driving and his shot is below average. Once he can drive his game will open up so much. Westy is to much of a spaz to ever be a captain. Hoff is a great shooter but average at everything else, besides dribbling which he is terrible. If Sampson finds a pair of balls by next year, and White and Trevor play we will be a great big ten team because we will beat up everyone inside.
 

I agree with all 3 of those comments...Might as well start with Seemore's 5, and use Carter, Colt, Rodney, etal, fit in as the game determines. I have been a Westy supporter for a long time, but his leadership and character are detrimental to the team right now and only he is responsible for my mind change. It does happen. Reputation is what people think you are ...Character is what you are.
 

Doc

I agree with all 3 of those comments...Might as well start with Seemore's 5, and use Carter, Colt, Rodney, etal, fit in as the game determines. I have been a Westy supporter for a long time, but his leadership and character are detrimental to the team right now and only he is responsible for my mind change. It does happen. Reputation is what people think of you ...Character is what you are.


It worries me I am in total agreement with you!

It must be the ice-cold Corona kicking in.

:D
 


Good post Marcus, but two questions, you or whomever: As you mention players Smith can't afford to lose.....Hoffarber...Why would someone like Hoff even consider a transfer, popular hometown boy, allowed generally to shoot at will, having a decent-if not his best year, good chance of starting next year and going to be a senior? Unless you have some complication with getting into the NBA with a coach/team, which isn't Hoff's future, then why transfer with one year of eligibility? Not like another Big Ten school picks him up-not using a scholarship anyway.

Also, while Iverson will never be all Big Ten, his sheer size appears to indicate that there is still a project in the making. Puts 25 more lbs on? Might make a big difference next year. He needs stronger hands though.

Westbrook is indeed a head case, which we, or at least I, didn't expect to see this year.
 

Westbrook is indeed a head case, which we, or at least I, didn't expect to see this year.

I actually don't think Westbrook is a head case. He might be a bit of a Richard, however. Not surprising to me that we see this demonstrated more-and-more with the team going down the tubes.

Blake Hoffarber, by the way, has been the best player on the team all year. His playing time indicates to me that Tubby agrees.
 

http://blogs.twincities.com/gophers/2010/02/after-thursdays-poor-showing-i.html


-- Other transfer rumors? I heard speculation about a number of players for a while now. It's not just something new that has popped up recently like some would suggest. Only time will tell how many of them actually follow through with it. Those things happen on struggling teams every year. Remember former Gophers coach Dan Monson having two to three players leave every season. The players Smith can't afford to lose are Mbakwe, Sampson, Williams, Hoffarber and Joseph (because that would mean his brother is definitely not coming here). Anybody else departing would hurt the Gophers depth, but they might be able to survive, especially if White returns. Well, if Minnesota isn't making the NCAA tournament, at least there will be something to pay close attention to in late March and April.

Go Gophers!!

I don't see any of these guys mentioned transferring. Mbakwe would have to sit out yet another year, he would be like 27 before playing again (he just seems old) Hoff will be a senior and it does not make sense to transfer with 1 year of eligibility left. Williams is just a freshman and could not have expected too much PT this year. Sampson is our starter for his career and seems happy.
 




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